Vote tally - Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Apr 20, 2018 at 8:48 PM, finished with 159 posts and 14 votes.

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Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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  • [X] Standing:
    -[X] Tone: empathetic, soft; care to not drive Homura to close herself off.
    -[X] Continuous cleanse.
    -[X] If at any point you feel it's correct to do so, give Homura time to compose herself.
    [X] You believe that, over the course of the loops, Madoka has been capable of continually deciding that Homura's actions have been those of a good friend, because she has had a degree of continuity across the loops.
    -[X] Explain evidence: limited degree of information transfer indicated by development of set of gut instincts, feelings, etc. and changes -- updates -- in the dreams.
    --[X] Explain: transfer should summarize "Madoka" across the loops. Transfer contains a total absence of pain/grief/despair/etc that would indicate suffering, total presence of "Trust Akemi Homura."
    ---[X] Explain: if Madoka felt that she was being hurt by Homura's actions, transfer would contain pain/hurt/despair that would synergize with the events of the loops and compound over time as a result. Eventually Madoka would be beaten-down and hopeless every loop. It's not compatible with what we see.
    [x] Goal: Homura needs a new viewpoint:
    -[x] That implies her success
    -[x] That permits Madoka to have made a Wish
    -[x] That doesn't imply she's been causing suffering for Madoka
    -[x] That promises a good outcome
    [X] Approach:
    -[x] Show empathy - physical /emotional support, check her understanding as you go, give her time to compose herself when necessary, etc.
    -[x] Softly lead Homura to the goal; don't dictate or push. Take care to keep her open and listening, so she doesn't close off.
    --[x] You don't need to get it all done on the spot. She just needs to be stable enough that you can keep working on it with her.
    -[x] Provide supporting evidence when prompted or appropriate.
    -[X] Cleanse as needed.
    [X] Observation: Madoka thinks that Homura is helping.
    -[x] Madoka's dreams only give her instincts and impressions, but those instincts and impressions tell her to trust Homura. In her dreams, Homura is the hero fighting to protect her.
    -[x] Madoka would stay away if she felt that Homura was hurting her or causing problems. She believes that she's best off with Homura there for her.
    [x] Gently, without pushing:
    -[x] It's only because of Homura that things can be saved. If Homura had given up, at any point... everything would be gone. Madoka, Mami, Sayaka, the very world itself. And if she hadn't been so very, very, unimaginably strong, Sabrina wouldn't exist.
    -[x] Homura is, and was, protecting Madoka. You owe everything to her. Without her labour, none of this would be the slightest bit possible.
    -[x] Madoka wasn't tricked. And now, in this time, Madoka doesn't need to make a wish. You think this is what Madoka wanted when she asked Homura for her promise.
    -[x] Reiterate that everything will be okay.
    [x] Goal: Homura needs a new viewpoint:
    -[x] That implies her success
    -[x] That permits Madoka to have made a Wish
    -[x] That doesn't imply she's been causing suffering for Madoka
    -[x] That promises a good outcome
    [X] Approach:
    -[x] Show empathy - physical /emotional support, check her understanding as you go, give her time to compose herself when necessary, etc.
    -[x] Softly lead Homura to the goal; don't dictate or push. Take care to keep her open and listening.
    --[x] You don't need to get it all done on the spot. She just needs to be stable enough that you can keep working on it with her.
    -[x] Provide supporting evidence when prompted or appropriate.
    -[X] Cleanse as needed.
    [X] Observation: Madoka thinks that Homura is helping.
    -[x] Madoka's dreams only give her instincts and impressions, but those instincts and impressions tell her to trust Homura.
    -[x] Madoka would stay away if she felt that Homura was hurting her or causing problems. She believes that she's best off with Homura there for her.
    [x] Big Idea: Homura succeeded.
    -[x] Either Madoka or Homura could have ended the loops at any time. Madoka by being tricked into a catastrophic Wish, Homura by giving up. Neither did.
    -[x] Homura protected Madoka until she could make a Wish without being tricked. That is success.
    -[x] You believe that Homura, in engineering a loop where Everything Can Be Fixed, has completed the task she set herself with the loops. It needs to be followed through on, but she's completed the mission of the Loops.
    -[x] You think this is what Madoka wanted when she asked Homura for her promise.
    -[x] Reiterate that everything will be okay.
    [x] Suggestion: If Homura needs to take some time to think about it, she has time stop, and you're always willing to cook up a few days of food for her.
    [x] null
    -[X] Break to voting if any point needs more detail, or if Homura seems troubled. Don't be pushy.
    -[X] Relax. Comment:
    --[X] Homura's hair and higher dimensions.
    --[X] Raiding Yakuza for (4D) pocket money.
    [X] O&K.
    -[X] Probably a 'random' apartment.
    -[X] You don't know the Kure adults. Could be a bad idea.
    [X] Everyone.
    -[X] Explain your discomfort when dropping heavy topics. Ask if there's anything you can do to make it less stressful?
    -[X] Offer to watch the spar video.
    [X] Put in an order for the tracking devices.
    [X] If there's time, practice enchantment:
    -[X] Try using Control Magic...
    --[X] On Grief.
    --[X] To shape something into a Pocket Brina.
    [x] Goal: refute Homura's negative self-image and help her feel better about herself.
    [X] Approach:
    -[X] Tone: empathetic, soft; take care to not drive Homura to close herself off.
    -[x] Show empathy - physical and emotional support, checking her understanding as you go, give Homura time to compose herself, etc.
    -[x] Provide supporting evidence as prompted.
    -[X] Cleanse as needed.
    [X] It's not a bad thing like Homura is thinking. Madoka's dreams aren't scaring or upsetting her.
    -[x] In Madoka's dreams, Homura is protecting her. She's the hero fighting on her behalf.
    -[x] It's how Madoka knows that Homura is really a good person, even when she's not getting along with her other friends like Sayaka and Mami.
    -[x] Madoka knows deep down that Homura is helping her, and has never thought that Homura was hurting her.
    [x] We know what sort of hell Homura has put herself through for Madoka's sake, and we also know that Homura's a good person.
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