Vote tally - Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

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  • [X] Standing:
    -[X] Tone: empathetic, soft; care to not drive Homura to close herself off.
    -[X] Continuous cleanse.
    -[X] If at any point you feel it's correct to do so, give Homura time to compose herself.
    [X] You believe that, over the course of the loops, Madoka has been capable of continually deciding that Homura's actions have been those of a good friend, who has had her best interests at heart, by means of a degree of autonomy -- of a degree of continuity in spite of the rewinding of time.
    -[X] The dreams have changed over the course of the loops, updating, and on top of that Madoka has developed a set of gut instincts, feelings, etc., in reflection of a very limited degree of information transfer across loops.
    --[X] It's not a lot of transfer, but Homura has been through a lot of loops, enough that by this point it should amount to an average -- an incredibly rough depiction of "Madoka" as though she were aware of everything she has been through during the loops. And what it has added up to is very, very interesting, because there is a complete absence of pain, grief, despair, or indeed any other form of suffering present in the net sum. It is exactly not at all what you would expect if the person it was representing had been put through subjective decades of hurt. There would be something in it to indicate that. Anything. Instead, there is exactly one prevailing theme to the dreams, the feelings, the instincts: Trust. Akemi. Homura.
    ---[X] If Madoka wanted to give up, if she felt that she was being hurt by Homura's actions... It's not compatible. There would instead have been a buildup of pain and hurt and despair. She would have instinctual leanings towards thinking that things were hopeless, that she should pull away, and it would all add up until every loop Madoka Kaname would be beaten-down and hopeless, her instinctual leanings confirmed by the events proceeding around her.
    [x] Goal: Homura needs a new viewpoint that lets her feel successful, that permits Madoka to have made a Wish, and that promises a good outcome.
    [X] Approach:
    -[X] Tone: empathetic, soft; care to not drive Homura to close herself off.
    -[x] Show empathy - physical /emotional support, checking her understanding as you go, give Homura time to compose herself, etc.
    -[x] Provide supporting evidence as prompted.
    -[X] Cleanse as needed.
    [X] Madoka's maintained a degree of continuity through the dreams, and built up a sense of gut instincts, impressions, and so on.
    --[X] And those instincts... drive her to accept and trust Akemi Homura. If Madoka wanted to give up, if she felt that Homura was hurting her... She'd stay away. But she doesn't.
    [x] Homura succeeded. The loops could easily have ended - or worse. Madoka could only have made that Wish because Homura was there and protected her, until she made a Wish without being tricked.
    -[x] You think this is what Madoka wanted when she asked Homura for her promise.
    -[x] Reiterate that everything will be okay.
    [x] Goal: Homura needs a new viewpoint that has her being successful, that permits Madoka to have made a Wish, and that has the loops as a good outcome.
    [x] Potentially useful specifics:
    -[x] Keep making sure that this is helping Homura - physical emotional support, checking her understanding as you go, prompting her when a socratic dialog would do more good than harm, etc.
    -[x] Provide supporting evidence: Madoka implicitly trusting Homura, asking if they've met before, etc.
    -[x] Madoka's dreams aren't incredibly detailed, but they're enough that you think she's been making steady progress.
    -[x] Homura succeeded. Madoka could have ended the loops - or worse - if Kyubey had tricked her into Wishing Bad, but Homura was there, and Homura protected Madoka until she could Wish Good.
    -[x] You think this is what Madoka wanted when she asked Homura to keep her from being tricked.
    -[x] Reiterate that everything will be okay.
    [X] Raiseth
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