[X] Answer Homura: Because I believe that I was given the knowledge I woke up with so I could fix things, so I could help people. That whoever or whatever was behind it wanted me to have empathy for everyone I knew about, even Oriko. But that doesn't change what she's done in the past, and if I thought she would try to do anything like that again, then I would help you stop her. Whatever it would take. The three of you, Hitomi, Madoka, you're my friends, and I won't let anyone do anything to my friends if it's in my power to stop it. And I was given a lot of power. Also, I think that we might be able to use this to make their imprisonment more secure.
-[X] Subtext: I think Madoka wished me into being, and Madoka wouldn't want us to be cruel to Oriko. But that doesn't mean I'll help Oriko be able to hurt Madoka -- please don't think my kindness means I would side with her against you.
[X] Cut in with Sayaka: It ties into some different, deeply personal things for Homura. I'm not saying not to ask her, or that she should or shouldn't answer, because that's not my place. I'm just saying it's connected to a lot of other, really heavy things for Homura, so that you know just how big of a question you're asking her. So that if she doesn't want to answer, you'll know why. Then pull back a moment so Homura can decide whether she wants to get into that, knowing that Sayaka shouldn't be offended if she declines to answer. (If she does, break vote here, because that'd be huge!)
-[X] Subtext: I have just been talking about really deep personal history knowledge for Oriko of all people, so my being protective of Homura on this subject ought to be quickly tied to that, to help reinforce that Sayaka's question is bigger than she thinks it is.
[X] Elaborate more on Oriko's precognition and vision, motives for specific actions, bring up her tip that helped save Sayaka from the witch, and the different sorts of blind-spots Feathers and I produce in her precog. And that I have reason to trust what she was saying when first captured because (shamefully) I had threatened Kirika with a fate worse than death if she didn't answer truthfully.
-[X] Subtext: I will do things I will hate myself for afterwards to protect my friends.
[X] Vote in abeyance
-[X] Specifically note that I welcome suggestions for security measures.
[x] Answer Homura
-[x] On a personal level? Same as with everyone else; I want to help. I believe that everything can be fixed. Meguca are for saving.
--[x] I sound naive. I know. But I believe I have this information about people for a reason. To help everyone I can.
---[x] I know there are people, like the insane serial killer magical girl who hoards souls gems, who are beyond anything but the most extreme forms of "help". If I thought Oriko was like that, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But she's not. She's just as much a victim as pretty much every magical girl.
--[x] Oriko did a lot of bad things. She could have done more. We stopped her. If I even suspected she was plotting anything, then I wouldn't hesitate to stop her again. I would never let her hurt you three, Hitomi, Madoka- you're all my friends, and I won't let anyone do anything to my friends if it's in my power to stop it. And I was given a lot of power.
---[x] That said, with the information I have- I know that she can change. I know she is changing. Into somebody who wouldn't do those things anymore. Into somebody who would do good things instead.
-[x] More practically? Imprisoning meguca is difficult and expensive. We have limited resources and people. Meguca justice must be preventative, not punitive. We applied that principle in Sendai; whether we like it or not, it's proven itself so far.
--[x] Oriko and Kirika are extremely useful assets. They've already helped save a lot of people.
---[x] Elaborate if necessary (e.g. Masami and Hiroko, Fukushima, saving Sayaka from the witch, Sendai, Asunaro, etc)
[X] Sayaka:
-[x] Let Homura field that question
--[x] If Homura ignores it, do likewise.
---[x] If, and only if, Sayaka keeps pressing the issue with Homura, or asks us explicitly:
----[x] Tell her it ties into some deeply personal things, as well as some very sensitive information. Homura has good reasons to decide not to answer, and I support her decision.
---[x] Either way, drop the subject.
--[x] If Homura decides to answer, support her.
[x] Elaborate on Oriko's soul gem failure for why I've been pushing on this topic.
[X] Vote in abeyance
-[X] Specifically note that I welcome suggestions for security measures.
[X] Homura:
-[X] Goal: Re-assure we're on her side.
--[X] We're just someone who helps people.
--[X] We will stop Oriko if she tries anything.
--[X] Our metaknowledge and observations make us believe this is the best way forward.
-[X] Potentially:
--[X] Point lives saved and alliances made because we're like this.
--[X] Oriko foreseeing her own death, at Homura's, Sayaka's, or our hands.
--[X] Consequences of treating prisoners (and teenagers) inhumanely.
[X] Sayaka:
-[X] Let Homura field the question.
--[X] If necessary, intervene in favour of Homura keeping her secrets.
[X] Vote in abeyance
[X] to Sayaka - If it isn't a matter of retribution, could that question be dropped? Homura is on the spot if you insist. Give her a few months?
[X] Homura. Saving people who will accept being saved can't be wrong. And, when they help our friends, it matters more to us.
[X] Oriko is changing. Not a threat now. We think we have her on your side, contributing to Mitakihara.
-[X] As an ally, Oriko has already helped us build a bigger and safer community. She has skills to trade.
-[X] Ask about her own evaluation and inspection of Oriko.
[X] We keep taking them out to interact, and watch the results
[X] What is the better alternative?
[X] Offer hugs. Accept fear. Share hope.
[X] Plan joint agreement of next stage Oriko imprisonment, rules. Future hearing, and sentencing.
[X] return timestop
[X] Group enchant? That soft rock is ready for other magic now...?
[X] More on the GENERAL topic of adult help now? Anri is still out there, we still need development assistance, refugees are in mourning, ask alternatives. Ask preferences for how they want to see this happen.
