VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
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Not too sure about what you mean?
By driving out the competition, be it animals or other human shaped animals.
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Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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Not too sure about what you mean?
By driving out the competition, be it animals or other human shaped animals.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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- Australia
Often, yes - and most ancient societies, with weapons highly dependent on arm strength, were patriarchal.
The discussion in that thread was about how to properly depict a matriarchal society. It doesn't make sense to just hand all the clubs and spears to the women instead of the men. What does make sense is that the society chooses an alternative path to prosperity, with war and hunting being necessary side endeavors rather than the centre of industry.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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I'll clarify:
In the class the Mythic War was war glorified by things like:
"We fight for Justice! Truth! And the American Way!"
Wars for Causes and glorified shiny stories.
Like what pblur said you make war appealing through things like propaganda, culture and mythology.
Then you have Sensorial War:
The horrific images and experiences of fighting in the Jungles of Vietnam.
The sweat and blood and stink of the battlefield as experienced by the soldier and completely different and opposed to the Mythic form. Or nearly so.
As to my question it was more of a thing to spark discussion. So like if someone answered "They can hunt" we can follow that with "Which gender does the hunting and why".
Basically the start of a question chain we can discuss.
If I was going to have a alternate path to prosperity that would lead to matriarchy, I'd stick my nascent society in a isolated environment with a resource distribution that promoted more gathering and less active hunting. Or I would somehow give women an advantage in hunting.
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- Philippines
Hopefully next turn we do not need to take war missions I do wonder what would a greater good+honourable death trait be called Greater death, Good death, Honourable Good, my personal preference for names is For the good of all
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
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Ah i see what you mean.
Then perhaps due to females being able to notice more subtle things that male are unable to notice as they are often going out and about searching for food, while females are more planning and figuring out how to stretch out the available resources.
As for war and hunting, it's difficult to think up plausible ways to depict a matriarchal leaning environment. Maybe numerous death of warriors leading to mothers being treasured and expected to rise and train the next generation of warriors?
Simply giving females additional ability feels cheesy.
Given Divine Stewards, Symphony and Harmony as well as our most common martial stressor being Nomads, I expect the Stallion Temple to solidify our War God and it's most likely something like Athena with a heavy focus on defending your land/people, mass warfare and wits (because to bring nomads to battle, you need to maneuver a lot, which requires generals that know their shit).
Given the Dragon Graveyard, it may have some draconic themes in the imagery to represent savagery.
Should also help against lowland faiths. Who wants to worship a brutish bull when you can have T-Rex Sun Tzu?
(That and the most metal throne in the world once we get the palace. Dragon Throne Or Bust.)
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- Hell
Why have a cow god for your war god when you can have a dragon.
I like it. Hopefully integrating them and putting down their Temple will cement such an idea.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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T-Rex Sun-Tzu. Dude I like the way you think.
I mean fuck. That's awesome.
#DragonThroneOrBust
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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- Australia
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- Voidbetweenstars
Because in this thread Goats beat dragons.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
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- Lawrence's Wagon
And sheep get ignored. Because of the F word.Because in this thread Goats beat dragons.
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- Madness realms
I feel like the geopolitical landscape and our civ in general are getting more and more unstable.
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- United States
Any War God we have would probably be a God of Champions, considering that Best of the Best incentives warrior elites over massed chattel, but everything else seems to fit the Ymaryn to a T.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
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Yep. We've got the bull by the horns. If we can swing everything without burning to the ground, we'll be amazingly far ahead.
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- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
We Have Reserves.
We do in fact do mass armies. It's just that we also supply them with the best equipment.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Hmm...
The Chinese have the Dragon Throne.
The Japanese have the Chrysanthemum Throne.
They both look really cool.
...
We can do better.
While on the other side our neighbors are still going to be taking hits and we can choose how much to absorb from them.
#YmarynBullshit
He wears lots of different hats.
The Chinese have the Dragon Throne.
The Japanese have the Chrysanthemum Throne.
They both look really cool.
...
We can do better.
One massive boon is that we don't have to worry about the climate anymore. The ground ain't gonna slip out from under us while we wrestle with the beast.
While on the other side our neighbors are still going to be taking hits and we can choose how much to absorb from them.
So we cheat and go for Massed Quality. I am okay with this.
#YmarynBullshit
Well technically Max is the goat and the sheep.
He wears lots of different hats.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
Our priests currently have the role of scientists in our society. More freedom should result in tech advances without us having to take actions.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
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- Australia
Or...we'll be burned to the ground.
I'll freely own that I voted for Phygrif, and I had reasons at the time. He really did do incredible damage, though. A single turn we were out of control, and we were plunged into a handful of wars and new obligations.
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Pretty sure early societies were matriarchal and even currently you can see vestiges of it. The man is suppose to gather the resources that the womam divides up among the family (more visible in Japanese culture). It wasn't necessarily war that changed this but resource scarcity where now survival of the tribe was dependent on the strong men winning battles to secure resources. Over time this was associated with men being leaders or else your tribe just couldn't survive. If we had any matriachal societies besides us they wouldn't survive the Bronze Age collapse without transitioning to male leadership. As long their is competition for resources then which ever gender can wage war better would be in leadership roles.
EDIT: Farming as well causes the gender imbalance.
EDIT: Farming as well causes the gender imbalance.
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pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
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Well, that and Iron. And currency.
After all, every major society is going to have to go through the Tax rework we're about to do. They'll just be doing it 2 centuries from now when their currencies get off the ground.
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
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- Lawrence's Wagon
I voted for him too, and didn't expect what we got. Still, I think he left us in a workable situation.
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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*clutches chest*
Ahhhhh, owwwwwww.
I just felt a gleeful disturbance in the fabric of the Tax.
When they have to do their tax reforms with currency, I expect hellfire and molten salt flung our way.
How likely do you think it is the HK did their own non currency tax reform when they did their version of the Law?
And out of our neighbors who else may have done tax reforms, or just sorta let it gravitate to the things people wanted naturally, do you think?
Well he did show that we were able to swing much more force than we the thread thought we could, in some ways. The rest was him being a Martial Hero.
Thinking back though after the fact Creed would have run circles around Phygrif.
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I voted for him, but he was way more "successful" than I expected. I knew he would give us territory in the lowlands, I just didn't expect him to knock over the Xoh while he was doing it.