We didn't protect them from HK though. We just let someone poach our turf.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
because it puts us at negative -1 stability and causes huge trauma to our own people. not to mention with the lowlands wars the hathy and the metalworkers we will likely end up in a Death spiral
- Location
- Austria
A good point. And we do have RO+PG combo for +1-3 Stability now. Fuck nomads.
[X] [Main] War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Northern Nomads
[X] [Secondary] War Mission - Northern Nomads x2
[X] [Kick] War Mission
[X] [Kick] War Mission x2
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
So...if I'm understanding correctly, Baby Boom is giving us 4 Econ points per turn that we need to use up, lest they overflow and stop the boom?
a) That's awesome, and b) there has to be a way to turn that into a Zerg rush.
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Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
this is an important enough decision we should probably ask
@Academia Nut what are you willing to tell us about what doing this entails?
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Does the Kick normally need a majority vote? I'm against it. Much as it would be nice to put the nomads back in their place hard enough to get some breathing room, the fact is they don't have much of a place, being nomadic and all. They're not a bug we can squash, more like a swarm of flies to shoo off our lunch, and you can't swat them all.
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Yes, it does need a majority vote (so people don't need to specifically indicate they don't want to spend stability).
Sorta. We have several actions that can give us more econ slots. That's part of the reason why I'm pushing for the Dam- it gives us more econ slots.
Yeah, it requires a majority of those voting for the War Mission to also vote for it. Voting "[Kick] No" does absolutely nothing.
I'd like to point out that, with the new legitimacy cost, RO is actually more expensive than Grand Sacrifice - and both gives less stability and has a chance of failure. We might have a more certain way of raising stability than we did before this turn, but it's actually gotten even more expensive - so we need to be damned careful about when we actually spend the stuff.
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
However we can increase Legitimacy through Proclaim Glory.
A point of legitimacy is worth more than three econ. That we can recover it is the only thing that makes the action usable at all; it doesn't make it cheap.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I take significant issue with this- the Middle East was doing fantastic until the pope needed a way to measure the Catholic Nobility's dicks. and even AFTER the crusades, it was doing pretty good until it became one of the sites of the Great 20th Century Dick Measuring Contest.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Where is Grand Sacrifice? I don't see it on the list of actions for this turn.
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
We're not exactly gonna be running out of econ with the south about to go into a bloodbath war the hathy either collapsing next turn or re-unifying and the metal workers suffering a crisis and possible war.
- Location
- Austria
A good point. However, 'fuck nomads' is a good investment, especially to prevent them from sacking Iron Mine and a new Colony (because people thought exposed non-march in a steppe is a good idea?).
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Probably not, other than trying to keep the attention of the nomads on you.
Depends on what the Hathatyn do this turn. If they don't survive... probably one more main. If they do, a bit more than that unless they also expand their wine production.
They're being locally overwhelmed and their hero got a minor crit on his war roll. In any other circumstances they would be talking about severe casualties already, and they technically haven't hit the People's territory, this is skirmishes between scouts and in defence of allies who do not have the same advantages.
2 Prestige.
They prefer to skate the shore, but the sailors know enough that if they get lost at sea they just need to keep moving in the same direction for a few days and they will find land and can reorient.
- Location
- Staring into the void
[X] [Main] Restoration of Order
[X] [Secondary] War mission - Northern Nomads
[X] [Secondary] War mission - Northern Nomads x2
[X] [Kick] No
[X] [Secondary] War mission - Northern Nomads
[X] [Secondary] War mission - Northern Nomads x2
[X] [Kick] No
Lost it when we lost Greater Good.
Ignoring, for the moment, that even in the middle of a baby boom we're finding ourselves limited by econ.
It's also actions. And we've never a surplus of those.
Stability isn't cheap.
Right now, Enforce Justice is our best stability-granting option but we have no way of spending the Centralization it gives us.
Aside from that, Improve Annual Festival is actually our best action for raising stability. It's a bad option, but we've lost all our better ones.
Aside from that, Improve Annual Festival is actually our best action for raising stability. It's a bad option, but we've lost all our better ones.
We lost it when we lots Greater Good to make Greater Justice. And when we tried to re-acquire Greater Good, we got Centre of Trade instead.
ThrawnCA
Carbon-based biped
- Location
- Australia
Ah. That's a shame.
Although I have to think that the combination of Grand Sacrifice and Cosmopolitan Acceptance would be rather...well, unbalanced. Considering that it cost just -2 Stability to throw the Hathatyn into chaos and potentially destroy them as a nation, and we could get that back just by sacrificing 3 Econ...
ETA: We don't want to be one-trick ponies, of course, and go the Lowlanders' route. But that's OK, because taking in refugees with CA doesn't even cost an action, so we'd have plenty of capacity to diversify in the turns where our enemies were in a chaotic shambles.
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Dang, I'm guessing if we didn't help them out previously the Eastern Nomads would have been flattened and added to the horde without so much as a speedbump?
Pretty small sea then. Mostly.
And then was informed that the Xohyssiri no longer have Greater Good since it had evolved to Moloch Calls.