One! One Vampire Ideas and Discussion Thread! Ah Ha Ha!

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Inspired by Ford Prefect's thread on vampires, but whereas that's more about the vampire concept in general and how the bloodsuckers are portrayed in fiction already, this thread is more about our own vampire stories and characters that we're planning to write.

The first thing I'm trying to narrow down is what'd make a good real-world setting for vampires. Anywhere with a lot of cities, mountains, forests or bodies of water would make sense practically, while anywhere with a lot of open plains, deserts or sunlight wouldn't. For example, in Australia Melbourne (rain, almost the Seattle of the South), Canberra (ice and cold, also politicians) and Hobart might make decent vampire hangouts, but anywhere else in the country probably wouldn't.
Obviously Eastern Europe is prime vampire territory, particularly Serbia (where the word vampire comes from, though it's in turn derived from the Turkish ubir) and Romania, though large swathes of Hungary oddly enough might be a poor choice what with the Great Plains. Though that does bring up the ideas of Cowboys vs Vampires (Csikos as Hungary knows them), if not Vampire Cowboys.

Britain, Ireland and Russia, the Northern US states and Canada (mainly around British Columbia, the Eastern states and Toronto) could be likely locations too, though anywhere too far north like Scandinavia and you run into the problem of the Midnight Sun in summer, though lots of vampires would have the money to just move away before then.
China, Korea and Japan stand out for Asia, not being too tropical or having too many plains or deserts. New Zealand, the Andean or Amazonian parts of Peru, Chile and inland Brazil might also work, Africa might be way too tropical, sunny or desert-laden though.

Of course, all of that above was just me referring to the more typical stock vampire, not taking account of related regional creatures like the Aswang, Manananggal or Vetala.



The other big vampire idea I had would be a Quest where vampires find the corpses of famous historical figures (and mythical too I guess, since I'm already featuring vampires) to turn them into their ghouls. This would partly be too gain powerful advisers, inventors or bodyguards, but also for perverse entertainment, such as making Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan fight each other just to see who wins, or too see how some ancient figure like say Aristotle or Queen Victoria would react to the modern era.

This got me wondering what historic/mythic figures would work well as vampires (not counting ones already linked with vampires like Vlad Dracula or Erzsebet Bathory, since they're a given), or which ones wouldn't adapt well to being vampires for a 'fish out of water' story. Pythagoras was one I'd thought of, sharing with vampires his big math obsession, or taking a page from Warhammer, maybe a few Egyptian pharaohs or the Chinese Emperor Qin Shi Huangdi who were already obsessed with transcending death?
 
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I'm not actually sure why the first thought that came to my mind after your last two paragraphs was "What if Cu Chulainn was turned into a ghoul", but it was.
 
Some more historical figures I think could work as vampires would be the Hapsburg dynasty, partially from their inbred looks but also because Maria Theresa had her personal physician, Gerard van Swieten, issue a statement against the existence of vampires, officially to quell the then-ongoing vampire panic, but easily able to be interpreted as her trying to keep a Masquerade intact. Actually, wouldn't be surprised if a vampire story out there has already used this as a plot point.

The Peruvian legend of the human-flesh-eating Pishtaco being based off conquistadors makes me think that Francisco Pizarro and company could easily fit in.
Also had the idea of doing Golden Age Hollywood vampires (or across the pond German Expressionist vampires), assuming the idea of them not showing up on film doesn't get in the way of that (although vampires not showing up in mirrors could be viewed as more about the soul and not just reflective surfaces). Alternatively it could justify the concept, with vampires using their not-being-reflected to their advantage.
 
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For some reason I am now thinking about a vampire in a Dwarven underground kingdom. :confused: Well, free idea if anyone wants it.
 
Well the connection between vampires and dwarves is obvious, both staying out of the sunlight, but I've always felt there's an 'equal but opposite' thing among vampires and elves too. Both tend to be portrayed as elegant, immortal superhumans, well at least in modern fiction anyway, however elves are typically pro-nature whereas vampires are frequently anti-nature.

Part of the backstory for my 'Vampires resurrect heroes to make them their ghouls' Quest (for which I'm considering the titles Dead-Blooded, Souldead, Heroes' Blood, Blood and Roses or possibly Deadstar) is that the vampire panic of the 18th century never died down, possibly making Stoker's Dracula, among other works, basically a documentary.

While this'd make low-class vampires easy targets, upper-class vampires could easily bribe most hunters off them (possibly onto their rivals), providing an in-story reason for why aristocrat/bourgeois vamps are the focus (the out-of-story reason being they where the vampire archetype I had this idea in mind for).

Speaking of vampire hunters, I was trying to think of different ways to portray them. I was thinking of characterising the main hunter society in the Quest as people who were once brave heroes but are now more like the mafia, charging high prices for the continued protection of the people (and secretly siccing vampires and ghouls on people who don't pay up).

I also thought of a bunch of insane conspiracy theorist hunters who insist that the vampires a part of some great overarching plot, even though most vampires are too isolated from each other to organise anything that large-scale. A bunch of big-game hunter types who go after the vampires 'for sport' was another idea I had, though I later found out that Hunter: The Vigil had already done something similar twice. With my idea for 'Russian oligarch vampires', in turn I got the idea for some KGB-like Soviet vampire hunters formed by Stalin when he got paranoid about vampires (along with... everything else).

Going back to vampires, I was trying to think of how I could make a group of vampire mad scientists without having them be too similar to Vampire: The Requiem's Ordo Dracul. Possibly by having them originally be human mad scientists who turned into vampires in an experiment, but also maybe have them be motivated more by boredom-induced mad curiousity than improving the vampire condition.
 
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