One Eye, Full Of Insanity (A Gravity Falls/RWBY Jaune Arc Crossover Quest)

Hmm difficult

Given that Bill-Jaune's social problems come from a lack of understanding when it comes to humans/mortals/life in general I don't think being able to sense lies or thought would be good for him, even if it would be good for the Questers on a meta level

Seeing the future might be a good one, since Bill cares about his family

Seeing all might be very useful if we get involved with Ozpin and it also sounds like the 'most Bill-like' ability to be honest, which makes it very tempting

But I think the combination of looking at a soul and looking at the past would be the best to get Bill empathize with other people
It would also mark Ozpin as obviously supernatural, allowing us to get drawn into the plot without being caught unaware

[X] See souls
[X] Eyes from the past

Going to have to disagree with this kind of reasoning. First off the main reason that Bill had issues empathizing with people was due to his shit childhood and having a relationship with his first family that was so bad it was implied to have been worse than Stan's relationship with his own family at it's worst. Here Bill is being raised by a loving family and the QM themselves pointed out that Bill was going to turn out much better because of it. So don't think Bill is going to much issues empathizing with people this time around.

Second getting a power just for a specific situaitons seems like it's just setting ourselves up to be shot in the foot long term. I mean there are probably several ways we can learn about the plot without being caught unaware. Like say getting the powers that let's us see souls and semblances which would let us see Ozpin's soul is abnormlan including being made of multiple people.

It's important for people to remember that we are playing hard mode so getting powers that we are going to be using a lot and is helpful in multiple situations seems like it would be better for helping us out in the long term.
 
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[X] See thoughts: One's thought are always sacred...(Grants the ability read thoughts) Cost: 1 Wisdom Skill Point

[X] See souls
: The world of Remnant depends on their souls too much, maybe you can get some pie out of it (Grants ability See Aura, Grants ability see semblance) Cost: 1 Wisdom Skill Point

[X] Sense mischiefs
: Eyes and ears can get tricked, but not your soul (Grants the ability lie detection) Cost: 1 Wisdom Skill Point

All good things come in sets of three.
 
[x] Eye that can see the all: All the secrets of a soul is in you hands with only a single glance... (Grants the ability all seeing eye) Cost: 3 Wisdom Skill Points
 
Going to have to disagree with this kind of reasoning. First off the main reason that Bill had issues empathizing with people was due to his shit childhood and having a relationship with his first family that was so bad it was implied to have been worse than Stan's relationship with his own family at it's worst.

Gonna Veto your disagreement, mostly because it doesn't matter how good or bad Bill's original childhood was

Much more important is his state of mind before he was reborn and that was that of an insane sadistic dreamdemon who only respected beings that were more powerful then him like the Time Baby or AXOLOTL

And as we have seen in the current chapters, it is that while Bill likes his family for the unconditional love the give him, he cannot empathize with them that is why he seeks to learn these things through observation, which is why he was confused by the ant's, who held no familial love towards each other

That is why I think that both, being able to see souls and being able to see into a person's past would allow Bill to better understand people, much more importantly humans
As it allows him to draw comparisons and learn why the people behave as they do

Here Bill is being raised by a loving family and the QM themselves pointed out that Bill was going to turn out much better because of it.

No, you misunderstood the QM
This is not a better Bill but a redeemed Bill
And that does not make him a person that can emphasize with others, just not an insane antagonist that seeks to destroy remnant

Second getting a power just for a specific situaitons seems like it's just setting ourselves up to be shot in the foot long term. I mean there are probably several ways we can learn about the plot without being caught unaware. Like say getting the powers that let's us see souls and semblances which would let us see Ozpin's soul is abnormlan including being made of multiple people.

That is rich given that your choice is a trait whose ability is not quite clear and whose usefulness in any situation is questionable at best

Nevermind that you misunderstood the point that I was making

First of all, the Build is more about getting Bill a sense of empathy, by making him learn more about people, even those who are just random strangers to him and thus getting himself emotionally involved with those people

Second point is not 'getting into the plot' which is for the first three seasons about beacon but in finding out that Ozpin is magical, something which we probably wouldn't find out on our own otherwise unless get lucky with mindreading, which is kinda important if we wish to prevent stuff like Cinder gaining the complete Fall Maiden

The third point are the obvious advantages such as being able to see the enemies semblance and getting intel on enemy actions

All good things come in sets of three.

That is a good line of thinking
 
[X] Eye that can see the all: All the secrets of a soul is in you hands with only a single glance... (Grants the ability all seeing eye) Cost: 3 Wisdom Skill Points
 
No, you misunderstood the QM
This is not a better Bill but a redeemed Bill
And that does not make him a person that can emphasize with others, just not an insane antagonist that seeks to destroy remnant
...The QM literally put in in his first or second post at the end that Bill will not be an insane antagonist.
That is rich given that your choice is a trait whose ability is not quite clear and whose usefulness in any situation is questionable at best

Nevermind that you misunderstood the point that I was making

First of all, the Build is more about getting Bill a sense of empathy, by making him learn more about people, even those who are just random strangers to him and thus getting himself emotionally involved with those people

Second point is not 'getting into the plot' which is for the first three seasons about beacon but in finding out that Ozpin is magical, something which we probably wouldn't find out on our own otherwise unless get lucky with mindreading, which is kinda important if we wish to prevent stuff like Cinder gaining the complete Fall Maiden

The third point are the obvious advantages such as being able to see the enemies semblance and getting intel on enemy actions
First off I already pointed out that the all seeing eye seems to be a refference to Odin's eye which can see many things and was tied to wisdom hence why it seemed like it would give us most of the powers shown along with maybe some bonus since it also costs 3 points. Second relying on an AU to end up exactly like canon seems like a huge mistake since as I said a lot can happen and change due to either the QM adding his own things or our own actions in unpredictable ways.
 
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Hey qm have you read "flat Dreams" and if you have are you using that for bills backstory?
I didn't know there was a fanfic like that. But no, I didn't use that for bill's backstory. To be fair, I only read RWBY, Danmachi and Naruto fanfictions frequently. The others come into the play when I'm very bored.
 
[X] Eye that can see the all: All the secrets of a soul is in you hands with only a single glance... (Grants the ability all seeing eye) Cost: 3 Wisdom Skill Points
 
I didn't know there was a fanfic like that. But no, I didn't use that for bill's backstory. To be fair, I only read RWBY, Danmachi and Naruto fanfictions frequently. The others come into the play when I'm very bored.
You should really read it, it is great and shows Bill from a whole different light, you just need to search flat dreams and it should probaly be the first archives of our own story
 
[X] Eye that can see the all: All the secrets of a soul is in you hands with only a single glance... (Grants the ability all seeing eye) Cost: 3 Wisdom Skill Points
 
That is rich given that your choice is a trait whose ability is not quite clear and whose usefulness in any situation is questionable at best

First off I already pointed out that the all seeing eye seems to be a refference to Odin's eye which can see many things and was tied to wisdom hence why it seemed like it would give us most of the powers shown along with maybe some bonus since it also costs 3 points. Second relying on an AU to end up exactly like canon seems like a huge mistake since as I said a lot can happen and change due to either the QM adding his own things or our own actions in unpredictable ways.
Second getting a power just for a specific situaitons seems like it's just setting ourselves up to be shot in the foot long term. I mean there are probably several ways we can learn about the plot without being caught unaware. Like say getting the powers that let's us see souls and semblances which would let us see Ozpin's soul is abnormlan including being made of multiple people.

I believe that I have to clear this part in your conversations.

To be fair, I should say that that the all seeing eye is mostly not what you guys thinkit is, so I say that you should choose carefully. You guys already signed your death sentence when you picked not to get your old powers, so try not to fuck this one up. But don't expect me to change the votes or re-roll the dice you guys are on your own
 
You guys already signed your death sentence when you picked not to get your old powers, so try not to fuck this one up.
The death sentence bit sounds worrying. And to be fair when people think hard they probably see it as challenging rather than not beatable and you only really gave us two choices.
 
The death sentence bit sounds worrying. And to be fair when people think hard they probably see it as challenging rather than not beatable and you only really gave us two choices.
That's why I gave you the AXOLOTL's blessing. To you guys NOT to die. I already did a pretty big change in my notes because you guys looked like you're gonna die from the first fight because of your choice. You guys will not regain the chance to set this game's mode to easy again. Yes, I will give you guys a choice that will let you change the game mode again but you will not be able to revert it back to easy. The easiest mode that will come will be Normal mode. I just hope you guys do not choose it to revert the game mode to impossible. You guys will literally die if that happens.
 
[X] See thoughts: One's thought are always sacred...(Grants the ability read thoughts) Cost: 1 Wisdom Skill Point

[X] See souls
: The world of Remnant depends on their souls too much, maybe you can get some pie out of it (Grants ability See Aura, Grants ability see semblance) Cost: 1 Wisdom Skill Point

[X] Sense mischiefs
: Eyes and ears can get tricked, but not your soul (Grants the ability lie detection) Cost: 1 Wisdom Skill Point


Aka
"Cinder failed and doesn't know why that blonde loser found her out".
 
That's why I gave you the AXOLOTL's blessing. To you guys NOT to die. I already did a pretty big change in my notes because you guys looked like you're gonna die from the first fight because of your choice. You guys will not regain the chance to set this game's mode to easy again. Yes, I will give you guys a choice that will let you change the game mode again but you will not be able to revert it back to easy. The easiest mode that will come will be Normal mode. I just hope you guys do not choose it to revert the game mode to impossible. You guys will literally die if that happens.
Another question, would it be possible to become as powerful as we would have been if we got our old powers with enough effort and luck? To be clear I don't think it should be easy and should actually require more work depending on the game mode. Just curious if we could.
 
Hey z.no Can we have a normal huntsman stats, so we Can compare Them to bills
Of course! Let's see

If a hunter is more of a strength based it will be around this
Strength: 70/100
Agility: 35/100
Dexterity: 45/100
Endurance: 55/100

If a hunter is more of an agile one their stats will be like this
Strength: 45/100
Agility: 70/100
Dexterity: 55/100
Endurance: 35/100

If a hunter is more of a tank, the stats will be like
Strength: 55/100
Agility: 45/
Dexterity: 35/100
Endurance: 70/100

Of course these are not accurate and there many more factors but I think this will stisfy your curiosity. BTW you CANNOT go after 35 if you do not have aura unlocked
 
Another question, would it be possible to become as powerful as we would have been if we got our old powers with enough effort and luck? To be clear I don't think it should be easy and should actually require more work depending on the game mode. Just curious if we could.
Saying that seems easy but it's actually pretty hard. If I didn't gave you guys the AXOLOTL'S blessing that would be near impossible to do.
 
I figured it is some kind of "see what even they don't know", like knowing what someone's Semblance is before even they know or if weird stuff is going on with their souls.
 
[x] yes, give us more information so we can make the correct choice
I feel like we need to know What it Does, we have chosen hard mode, i dont want to fuck this up
 
[X] yes, give us more information so we can make the correct choice

[X] See souls
[X] Eyes from the past


I figured it is some kind of "see what even they don't know", like knowing what someone's Semblance is before even they know or if weird stuff is going on with their souls.
I think the See Aura and See Semblance covers that
 
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