Now My Read Begins... (A Song of Ice and Fire Let's Read and Commentary)

I think the nightwatch in the books is a mix of a couple of institutions set up in a romantic light Hadrian's wall, the British North Eastern Frontier in India and a general Napoleonic view of the men as ''scum of the earth'' scorned by the world yet will save the empire. Which the fandom at large has embraced.

I say that as the Game of thrones video game that came out in 2012 darker and pretty edgier than the main series tried to at least explore the whole putting together a bunch of people who all hate each other in the same prison together might make a very haphazard group or how a penal colony where older, stronger rapists given weapons are put alongside younger, weaker boys like street orphans often given authority early on turns predatory quick with the Watch having to purge them regularly.

I'v never really seen any fanfic try to really explore that concept in depth so I think the unreality of the night watch as fairly romantic is justified it can appeal to a wider audience.
 
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Eddard I (The Times, They Are A-Changing)
Content Warnings: Discussion of a misogynistic culture, discussion of child marriage and underage pregnancy, discussion of power imbalances in sex

Okay! Eddard I, where the main plot of Westeros (at least, the political one) really starts to kick off, and where we get a bit more of a view of the past of Westeros; the events which brought about the current order of things, and continue to shape history going forwards through the books.

We start with the arrival of the King's party to Winterfell, and the brief introduction of several central characters; Jaime and Tyrion Lannister are named, as is Sandor Clegane, while Joffrey isn't named but is described. The central figure, though, is unquestionably the king - who Ned literally doesn't recognize at first until Robert calls out to him. I believe the line in the show is "You got fat", but that doesn't come up here; Ned's too tactful to say that out loud, though he thinks it real strongly. His mental comparison between the present and past Robert is very interesting in light of @Shane_357 's point here, as the past, more masculine version of Robert which Ned remembers and, to a point, admires, is very specifically described in context of his martial prowess and sexual qualities:
Fifteen years past, when they had ridden forth to win a throne, the Lord of Storm's End had been clean-shaven, clear-eyed, and muscled like a maiden's fantasy. Six and a half feet tall, he towered over lesser men, and when he donned his armor and the great antlered helmet of his House, he became a veritable giant. He'd had a giant's strength too, his weapon of choice a spiked iron warhammer that Ned could scarcely lift.(1) In those days, the smell of leather and blood had clung to him like perfume.
While the present version is presented in deep contrast to that:
In those days, the smell of leather and blood had clung to him like perfume.

Now it was perfume that clung to him like perfume, and he had a girth to match his height. ... [In the last nine years] the king had gained at least eight stone. A beard as coarse and black as iron wire covered his jaw to hide his double chin and the sag of the royal jowls, but nothing could hide his stomach or the dark circles under his eyes.
In short, the king is rather described as being ruined by laxity and his vices - and, as we learn later, by his feelings of loss, despair and betrayal by the world. He fought a war for a girl and the kingdom, in that order, and only got the kingdom, and found he didn't much like ruling it, but couldn't give it up. Anyway, we'll dig more into this characterization of Robert later.

The queen, Cersei, is introduced along with the note of the massive carriage she and her children have ridden in to reach Winterfell, and ceremonial greetings are made between the two families. As soon as these formalities are completed, though, Robert asks to be taken to the Winterfell crypts to pay his respects to the dead. Eddard loves Robert for the care he still shows his sister - but we get a look at the coldness of his actual marriage as Cersei objects, Robert glares at her, and her brother draws her away.

Ned and Robert descend to the crypts, small-talking along the way about the size and coldness of the North. Robert extolls the richness, beauty and pleasures of the south, in terms which rather make me think that he's never considered that he only goes to the places where "Everyone is fat and drunk and rich" and doesn't see the rest of his kingdoms, where people aren't so much that - though it does seem that this long summer has been a time of prosperity for the kingdoms. He also rambles about girls 'losing all modesty in the heat' and 'swimming naked', in a way that honestly sounds more like an asshole teen boy talking about peeking into the girl's changing room than a 36-year-old king. Eddard notes that Robert was always a man of appetites, but that his pleasures have eaten away at him.

Reaching the crypt itself, Eddard leads the way down to the far end, past statues of past lords and kings of Winterfell, with carved stone direwolves at their feet and iron swords on their laps. They reach the tombs of Ned's father, brother and sister, and we learn that there are already tombs prepared for Ned and his children. Robert kneels down before the graves to pay his respects, then bemoans the sculptor's work on the statue of Lyanna's tomb - Eddard's sister, and Robert's betrothed. It's painfully obvious he's still in love with her - or, rather, with the image of her he has in his head. Robert wishes she were buried on a hill under a fruit tree, out in nature, and Eddard reminds him that she wanted to come home. Ned has something of a flashback to Lyanna's death, and we're introduced to a very interesting character we won't learn much about for a long time to come: Howland Reed, a Crannogman.

Standing up again, Robert waxes lyrical about how he wishes he could kill Rhaegar Targaryen, Lyanna's kidnapper, again and again for what he did, and we get a little history lesson about the duel between Robert and Rhaegar. Ned suggests they should go back to Robert's wife, and he curses her. Ned asks to hear about Jon Arryn's death - a man they're both closely-connected to. Robert says that Jon took ill suddenly and died within two weeks, the sickness burning through him. Ned asks about Jon's wife, Catelyn's sister, and how she's taking the death. Robert says not well, and that against his wishes and in spite of his promise to foster the boy with Tywin Lannister, Lysa has taken her son back to her castle in the Vale. Robert seems to feel a genuine connection to Lysa's son (Robert Arryn; named for the king - I'll call him Sweetrobin from here, as it's a common nickname and makes the characters easier to distinguisj), talking about how he'd sworn to protect the boy but can't do it due to Lysa's actions (putting his own feelings above that of the child's mother's). Ned proposes fostering Sweetrobin himself, the king says no because it would offend the Lannisters, Ned says he cares more for the child than Lannister pride, and Robert decides to broach the subject he's been meaning to all along.

Ned tries to draw the king into conversation on the Wall, and matters he sees as practical, while Robert redirects to the matter of Sweetrobin's inheritance. After a small diversion around the inheritance of the title of Warden of the East, Robert gets to his real point: He wants Ned to be his Hand of the King, as someone he can trust and rely upon. Robert openly admits, though, that this isn't for the sake of honoring his friend - it's to complete the work of pushing off the duties of the crown to someone else so he can "eat and drink and wench [himself] into an early grave". On the other hand, he also proposes a marriage between Ned's oldest daughter Sansa, and his own heir Joffrey, and even explicitly says this would be a kind of replacement for the bond between their two houses that would have been had Robert wed Lyanna:
"You helped me win this damnable throne, now help me hold it. We were meant to rule together. If Lyanna had lived, we should have been brothers, bound by blood as well as affection. Well, it is not too late. I have a son. You have a daughter. My Joff and your Sansa shall join our houses, as Lyanna and I might once have done."
This, and Ned's protests about Sansa's young age, bring up a point I want to address regarding the age of marriages in Westeros. Martin has a lot of child marriages - like, seriously a lot. And it seems to be the case that this is a deliberate thing on his part, trying to un-whitewash fantasy in some sense, and make a point of horrifying practices which generally get left out in fantastical works based on this or that historical time period. However, while very young marriages did occur in the middle ages and historical cultures generally, and betrothals were often made very young in the kinds of contexts Martin draws inspiration from, it's important to understand that throughout basically all of history, people have known that trying to have children too young is extremely dangerous for both the mother and the child. Accordingly, given the fact that people in the past were not idiots, marriages at the ages Martin has happening fairly routinely were notable exceptions, and frequently a point was made of them not being consummated until a more suitable age was reached. In my opinion, this slots into a wider pattern in Martin's work of taking exceptions or outliers and putting them as the rule; we can look at the sheer destructiveness of the wars he depicts, instances of particularly shocking blasphemy or societal transgression (e.g. the Red Wedding), the age of marriage and so on - Bret Deveraux has done a lot of work on assessing the historical verisimilitude of the setting, and does it a lot better than me.

In any case, Ned begs for a little time to talk to his wife about these great honours, which Robert grants him with a warning not to take too long. Ned has a bad feeling, and the chapter ends.
For a moment Eddard Stark was filled with a terrible sense of foreboding. This was his place, here in the north. He looked at the stone figures all around them, breathed deep in the chill silence of the crypt. He could feel the eyes of the dead. They were all listening, he knew. And winter was coming.

Overall, Robert gives me the impression of essentially a kind of man-child; a person trapped in the past, never having really mentally progressed beyond a kind of adolescent self-centredness and a lack of self-control. He became king while he was an angry, passionate teenager, and very few people were ever able to tell him 'no' - so he never really learned to moderate himself, or to understand others; why should he need to when he can simply order them? In many ways, I think he's more similar to Joffrey than he'd care to admit - the only difference is that Joffrey is more actively malicious, rather than blithely uncaring and depressed about his losing a love he deeply felt to a person he never really knew.(2) And it's going to kill him; both because of the toll his lifestyle (enabled by those around him) takes on his body, and the way his uncaring and cruel attitude towards the people in his life (particularly Cersei) have bred resentment towards him. He's domineering, wields power casually and without thought (with his friends, with his female 'conquests', who I sincerely doubt he considers as victims, but are they going to say no to the king? We specifically know he often goes after low-born women rather than nobles.) and, like a bull in a china shop, he breaks things. His hope to have his friend nearby is going to kill both of them and plunge the kingdom into a devastating civil war.

So it goes.

Next chapter, we get to climb inside the head of an edgy teen boy in Jon I, though admittedly our Snow has more things to be genuinely resentful about than many (though he's still pretty privileged).

1: It's been said elsewhere, but historical warhammers usually weren't terribly big - they were meant to punch through armour, and often resembled picks moreso than mallets. This is a rather pop-culture idea of a warhammer as a massive, heavy weapon, when most real ones were relatively small.

2: It's pure speculation on my part, but there's a part of me which wonders, if Robert and Lyanna had actually married, whether they could have gotten along quite well - with some character growth on Robert's part. Lyanna is renowned for loving riding, hunting, hawking and fighting, all things which Robert also loves, and if he could accept that, and curb his pursuit of other women and dedicate himself to her, they could have been a bit of a wild couple together. Which all just really just adds to the tragedy of what actually happened, even if I think actually achieving this hypothetical state of harmonious marriage would probably require some pretty hefty therapy from someone, and possibly someone (maybe literally) beating Robert's head into the fact that he can't keep dishonoring his wife and expect her to love him back.
 
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In many ways, I think he's more similar to Joffrey than he'd care to admit - the only difference is that Joffrey is more actively malicious, rather than blithely uncaring and depressed about his losing a love he deeply felt to a person he never really knew.(2)
Honestly I've seen it argued that everything Joffrey does is a mirror of Robert; abusing women, abusing his siblings, mutilating animals in imitation of Robert's hunts, the obsession with violence, and so much more. Robert may blame Cersei for Joffrey, but Joff truly is his son in all the ways that matter.
 
Bret Deveraux has done a lot of work on assessing the historical verisimilitude of the setting, and does it a lot better than me.
I will be honest, I somewhat suspect this might be Martin for lack of a better word forgetting how children look like and how imma5ure their bodies can be, both given he's been involved in Hollywood which portrays teens and preteens with often much older actors. I think wanting shock value and portray what he feels is left out is definitely apart of but at a certain point I think just makes sense.

On case I can definitely think of is Gendry and Arya as theirs's a scene in the Riverlands once she's in a dress and blushes in what's implied to be young attraction. Thing is though Arya at most 9/10 and Gendry is believe to be 14/15, I don't think it's meant be seen as weird just makes sense I think to imagine other people in universe see children as less childlike to a degree.

Not much else to comment on good observations on Robert.
 
2: It's pure speculation on my part, but there's a part of me which wonders, if Robert and Lyanna had actually married, whether they could have gotten along quite well - with some character growth on Robert's part. Lyanna is renowned for loving riding, hunting, hawking and fighting, all things which Robert also loves, and if he could accept that, and curb his pursuit of other women and dedicate himself to her, they could have been a bit of a wild couple together. Which all just really just adds to the tragedy of what actually happened, even if I think actually achieving this hypothetical state of harmonious marriage would probably require some pretty hefty therapy from someone, and possibly someone (maybe literally) beating Robert's head into the fact that he can't keep dishonoring his wife and expect her to love him back.
I think probably not. Robert strikes me as the type of asshole guy who likes "strong, independent women" to break them down and make them theirs. There's a great quote I saw once from Trevor Noah's book:

"The way my mother always explained it, the traditional man wants a woman to be subservient, but he never falls in love with subservient women. He's attracted to independent women. "He's like an exotic bird collector," she said. "He only wants a woman who is free because his dream is to put her in a cage."

That being said, I doubt Lyanna would go along with this, which would result in him 'falling out of love' and treating her eventually just like he treated Cersei.
 
That being said, I doubt Lyanna would go along with this, which would result in him 'falling out of love' and treating her eventually just like he treated Cersei.
Honestly, if it did happen I suspect they wouldn't actually work together - but I can see a kind of vague potential for them to do so, which does make me a little sad. GRRM does have a bit of a talent for writing that kind of 'A possibility they could have been happy, but in reality never would have been'-type tragedy.

Though it is worth noting that it's not clear how much Robert really knew about Lyanna's 'wilder' tendencies; he seems to at least think of her in the present as this kind of idealized lady, which she really wasn't.
 
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When it comes to Lyanna my thought is always just 'okay I get you, but goddamnit the already married adult man is not the answer'. It's really damn obvious that this is a teenager, with teenager critical thinking skills. Also the theory that Rhaegar straight up gaslit her to maintain compliance is compelling because of how real it is. That shit happens.
 
Jon I (I'm A Bastard, Get Me Out Of Here)
Content Warnings: Discussion of ableism

We begin with Jon Snow, bastard son of Eddard Stark, having a bad time at a party.

Big mood.

Anyway, it's a pretty splendid affair, certainly the most ostentatious we've seen the Starks. Ned, Catelyn and their legitimate children make their way up to sit at the high table with the King and his family. This first section is mostly a series of introductions - and judgements, on Jon's part, as he watches the various dignitaries process up to the dias.

We get our descriptions of a number of major players - the queen's beauty, golden hair and emerald eyes (as well as her disdainfulness towards Ned) and the king's drunkenness and the same kinds of failings that were noted in the last chapter (a disappointment to Jon, raised on Ned's stories of how Robert used to be). After them come little baby Rickon, Robb ("grinning like a fool") walking arm in arm with the princess Myrcella (shy and, Jon immediately decides, insipid and stupid), Arya with "plump" Tommen "whose white-blond hair was longer than hers" and Sansa with Joffrey (noted as remarkably tall for his twelve years, but with "pouty lips" and a bored, disdainful look Jon doesn't like).

Finally, there's the queen's brothers: Jaime is "twin to Queen Cersei", both literally and in appearance; he's described as being almost literally sharp, with a smile that "cut like a knife", red and black clothes, and with the Lannister lion on his chest - interesting, given that Jaime is a Kingsguard knight, who traditionally wear white. Jon thinks he looks like a king should - that is to say, well-formed and capable of violence - despite the fact that Jaime literally killed the last king against oath. And lastly, Tyrion, where great effort is put into describing his ugly appearance - he's not nearly as handsome as Peter Dinklage. Benjen Stark, Ned's younger brother from the Night's Watch, and Theon, sneak in behind.

Overall, though, Jon is feeling hurt and excluded from the people he regards as his family, so he's taken the opportunity of his exclusion to drink to an excess Ned would never allow him (as a fourteen year old) to do, and carouse with the young squires, knights and other fellows around him. He's got his wolf pup, Ghost, with him at least, and he tells himself he's lucky in that, and that he can drink as much as he likes down here, but he's clearly struggling against tears.

He's brought out of his thoughts by Benjen's appearance; the older man takes up a space next to Jon, and starts talking to Jon about his wolf. Ghost never makes any sound, we learn, and he was named for that, and his colour. But Benjen isn't put off the point of Jon's feeling like shit, and Jon admits it's because Catelyn didn't want a bastard seated with the royal family. Benjen points out that Ned isn't raelly enjoying himself either, while the king is drinking heavily, and the queen is stonily silent, still holding a grudge from Robert waving her off earlier. Benjen offhandedly compliments Jon's perceptiveness and says someone like him would be welcomed on the Wall. Jon jumps on this, and asks Benjen to take him back with him when he leaves, to join the Night's Watch.

Benjen is reluctant, pointing out that Jon's still not an adult, that he hasn't really experienced life yet - putting particular emphasis on 'knowing a woman'. Jon points out that he's almost fifteen, that Daeren Targaryen was his age when he conquered Dorne, and that "Maester Luwin says bastards grow up faster than other children" (a rather sad little statement on the way that neglect and prejudice deny a childhood to the marginalized). Finally, Benjen says that Jon should "Come back to me after you've fathered a few bastards of your own, and we'll see how you feel." To Benjen, that's a pretty casual turn of phrase, less a statement of actual intent and more a euphemism for 'had a bunch of sex'. It's a sign of the disconnect between the two of them because Jon, having grown up under the stigma of bastardy, angrily yells he'll never have bastard children - then, embarassed by his outburst and everyone around him going quiet, he leaves the hall before tears start down his cheeks.

Outside in the yard, Jon feels both lonely and alone (save for a sentry up on the battlements) and ashamed by his own tears and emotionality. Before he can turn to go, though, someone calls out to him and Jon turns to see Tyrion Lannister perched on the lintel of the door to the great hall. Jon asks what he's doing, Tyrion asks about Jon's wolf, and explains that he left the hall because it's too noisy, too hot, and he's too drunk (which does answer the question of why he's up on the ledge, but not how he managed to get up there). Then he asks whether he can come down and say hello to Ghost. Jon agrees, asks whether he should bring a ladder - and Tyrion decides to jump down, do a handstand, then pop back to his feet.

It's honestly a pretty strange scene, and I think honestly an example of what a good friend of mine calls 'early-iteration weirdness' - basically, a symptom of the writer not quite having worked out the kinks in their world and characters yet.

Anyway, Tyrion tries to approach Ghost, but Ghost won't let him until Jon says so; they clearly have a strong bond, but besides that Ghost seems honestly barely tame. Tyrion seems fascinated by Ghost, and checks that Jon is Ned's bastard son. Jon is offended, but confirms - whereupon Tyrion says that he has "more of the north in you than your brothers" (Jon likes this) and offers him some advice:
"Let me give you some counsel, bastard," Lannister said. "Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armor yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you."
This is honestly rather interesting advice to give - there's definitely a point to it, in that Tyrion's right that these two people have marks upon them which they can't really escape and have to deal with one way or another. On the other hand, Tyrion's been kinda bad at taking his own advice. As we see with him later, on the one hand he uses his status as a 'monstrous' or 'demonic' being to essentially justify his own insincerity and vices, trying to treat the whole world as a sort of joke - but at the same time this isn't really true. He does care, deeply, about things: His family, his pride, his desire for love, affection, care, an 'ordinary life' and the approval his father never gave him. His status as a dwarf is a kind of psychological armor, but it's a brittle and imperfect sort of protection that lets him seem to shrug off rejection and derision, but still leaves him feeling hurt underneath.

Jon doesn't particularly like this advice, though, and questions what Tyrion knows about being a bastard. Tyrion says that "All dwarfs are bastards in their father's eyes", and that his father has "never been sure" Tyrion was his. We leave off the chapter with the setup of a mystery, and a rather unsubtle bit of symbolism:
"I don't even know who my mother was," Jon said.

"Some woman, no doubt. Most of them are." He [Tyrion] favored Jon with a rueful grin. "Remember this, boy. All dwarfs may be bastards, yet not all bastards need be dwarfs." And with that he turned and sauntered back into the feast, whistling a tune. When he opened the door, the light from within threw his shadow clear across the yard, and for just a moment Tyrion Lannister stood tall as a king.

Next chapter is Catelyn II, wherein the plot thickens.
 
I appreciate your reading of Jon Snow, I admit did not notice at the time how catty his internal pov is.

On the topic of Jaime, it's been commented a fair bit a earlier version of the books would of had him as the big bad. However given the nostalgia for Robert as a man of violence I honestly wonder if theirs's something bigger to it, Jaime as the best swordsmen on the continent pretty much is a celebrity athlete I suppose it could be commentary on the lionisation of violence where someone who's the system condemns for breaking it's rules is admired by those who believe in it given violence is what really matters.
 
I too like how catty Jon is in this chapter. It feels so genuine to that moment in most people's teenage years where you think everyone (even people you like) are a bit dim and you're the only smart person alive.


Its a masterful bit of foreshadowing to have Jon's first chapter be right after when the whole mess with Rhaegar and Lyanna is first brought up.

Quick prediction time - it is probably going to turn out that Robert was actually more or less completely right about Rhaegar and his 'relationship' with Lyanna - even if his reasoning is flawed. Because there is no way that Martin is going to pass up a chance to build more parallels between Jon and Ramsey or give the Starks and Targareyns an easy out to the legacy of Robert's Rebellion.
 
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Its a masterful bit of foreshadowing to have Jon's first chapter be right after when the whole mess with Rhaegar and Lyanna is first brought up.

Quick prediction time - it is probably going to turn out that Robert was actually more or less completely right about Rhaegar and his 'relationship' with Lyanna - even if his reasoning is flawed. Because there is no way that Martin is going to pass up a chance to build more parallels between Jon and Ramsey or give the Starks and Targareyns an easy out to the legacy of Robert's Rebellion.

Wouldn't we see a greater hatred for Rhaegar in Ned's POVs if that was the case? He almost certainly knows more about the subject than Robert does.
 
You can use the defence of early material to explain this just as Sansa was meant to betray her for family for her love or Arya being a love triangle with Jon and Tyrion was meant to occur so to was Ned softer on Rhaegar a thing of the past.
 
Catelyn II (Pillow Talk)
Content Warnings: Sexual content

After a brief bit of exposition about the central-heating arrangements in Winterfell (actually pretty complex, and something of a contrast to the way the North tends to be presented as rugged and simple), we join Ned and Catelyn in her chamber, post-coitus. Consensual sex. How innovative.

Anyway, sniping aside, the two talk together - they're vulnerable with and trust one another, though Catelyn prefers the warmth, and Ned always needs to open a window to cool off. There's probably some symbolism in there about Ned feeling he needs to be cool-headed and in control, but we'll leave that aside. Ned says he'll refuse Robert's request that he be Hand of the King, but Catelyn says he mustn't - arguably, can't. Robert has come all the way to Winterfell in person to ask Ned to be Hand; it would be a major insult to refuse him, and kings live and die by their reputations. Ned says that they're friends, that Robert would understand - but Catelyn points out the very real danger that a refusal would put them all in: If Ned says no, Robert has to wonder why, and those kinds of questions are very dangerous to have in a king's head, as well as admitting that she considers the appointment more of an honor than Ned does.

Catelyn is notably ambitious here; she's attracted by the thought of marrying Sansa to Joffrey, of being the mother to a queen, and grandmother to kings. Ned objects to the young age of both of them, but Catelyn points out she was only a year older when she was betrothed to Ned's brother Brandon (who died at the hands of Aerys Targaryen, the 'mad king). Here, we get an interesting glimpse at some of Ned's inner feelings:
That brought a bitter twist to Ned's mouth. "Brandon. Yes. Brandon would know what to do. He always did. It was all meant for Brandon. You, Winterfell, everything. He was born to be a King's Hand and a father to queens. I never asked for this cup to pass to me."
It's a little tricky to untangle all the emotions at play here, but I think there's a sense of bitterness, a wish that Ned didn't have to deal with this - and a kind of survivor's guilt over, in some sense, having what was meant for his dead brother. This is very much a scene for vulnerability, and we see Ned naked both literally and figuratively, while Catelyn lets less of herself loose, her ambitions cloaking her inner feelings just as she draws the blankets close around her. It's not entirely clear to me what motivates Catelyn towards this whole queen-scheme - it might just be a kind of institutional ambition that's inculcated into the noble classes, or perhaps another example of a contrast between the North (where people mostly just want to get on with life) and the South (where people struggle for power).

In any case, Ned broods a bit, but before Catelyn can go to him a message arrives from Winterfell's resident Maester (read: scholar-doctor-scribe), Luwin. Luwin brings a carved wooden box, mysteriously left in his office while he napped, which contains a finely-made lens. The meaning of this isn't immediately obvious, but Catelyn deduces it's a symbol for someone wanting to help them 'see', and Luwin produces a letter found within the box, and addressed for Catelyn's eyes only. Catelyn realises it's from her sister Lysa, reads it, and decides to get out of bed naked to stoke the fire and burn the message. Luwin looks away, but Catelyn points out he helped her birth her children and to stop being prudish.

I... Honestly find this weird. It feels like early-iteration weirdness striking again (or just GRRM being prurient, if I'm being uncharitable to him), and doesn't quite chime with my understanding of Catelyn's character. It could be she felt she needed to destroy the message immediately, even though she's just about to explain its contents to Ned and Luwin (though we don't actually get the contents of the letter itself, so it may be that Catelyn doesn't tell all that was in it).

In any case, when the men ask her what was in the letter, Catelyn explains it was written in a code she and Lysa made when they were young, and that it claims Jon Arryn was murdered by the Lannisters, and specifically by the queen. Ned doesn't accept it at first, thinking Lysa must have been sick with grief, but Catelyn points out the careful thought and great risk that went into sending the message, arguing her sister wouldn't do all that if she was 'mad with grief', and concluding that Ned must become the Hand, so that he has the power to investigate Jon Arryn's death, prosecute his killers and protect Lysa and Sweetrobin. She builds on this further by pointing out that this would let him protect his friend Robert, and Ned turns away to brood for a long moment.

Ned recalls that his father went south to answer a king's summons and never came back, wistful, then says that Catelyn will stay in Winterfell. Catelyn protests, but Ned insists that she remain to help Robb rule, along with Maester Luwin. Ned says that baby Rickon should stay as well, but that Sansa, Arya and Bran should come with him. Catelyn protests again - but Ned says that Sansa must be betrothed to Joffrey, to prevent suspicion, and that Arya should come south to learn the ways of court. Catelyn concedes that they should go, but asks that Bran stay. Ned says Bran should grow up with the young princes, to become connected with them in the same way that Ned was to Robert.

Finally, Maester Luwin brings up the subject of Jon Snow. Catelyn doesn't like him - less because Ned had a bastard child, or took care of him, and more because Ned brought his bastard son back with him, to grow up with Robb. Catelyn felt sort of usurped by the presence of Jon and his wet nurse in Winterfell before she even arrived, and the fact that Ned never speaks about Jon's mother (and the one time Catelyn asked he was cold to her and demanded she never ask about Jon's mother again), makes her feel insecure about that as well, because nothing she can say to him will make him send Jon away, and because of how similar Jon looks to Ned.

Catelyn demands, point-blank, that Jon not remain at Winterfell. Ned says he can't go south, and they calmost come to a row before Luwin drops the fact that Jon asked to join the Night's Watch. Catelyn is ecstatic: She doesn't want Jon hurt, and in fact thinks that Jon might be to Benjen "the child he would never have", but equally that this arrangement would mean that Jon would never have children who might contest Catelyn's own for the Stark name.

Ned is reluctant because of Jon's age, but Luwin talks him into it, and he agrees to talk to Benjen about the idea. He says it will be two weeks before they leave for the South - and Jon leaves for the Wall.

And that's the end of the chapter. Not much to say here, beyond that it's the most vulnerable we've seen our characters so far; in a very private and intimate setting. It's also the root of a lot of trouble to come later, as Catelyn's trust in her sister is sadly somewhat misplaced.

Next chapter is Arya I, where we get to meet this story's resident tomboy.
 
I admit I forgot Cat had a secret code, might be early instalment given I don't think it's brought up again.

Good observations QafianSage.
 
I admit I forgot Cat had a secret code, might be early instalment given I don't think it's brought up again.
To be clear, it was Catelyn going randomly exhibitionist I found weird, not the code - though I don't remember it getting brought up again. Then again, Cat and Lysa don't do that much secret communication from this point, and also my last read of the books wasn't a good or a close one, so...
 
This bit with Catelyn definitely feels like Martin still figuring out his characters and I wonder if some of what is shown here by Catelyn ends up migrated into Cersei later; the exhibitionism melded specifically to ambition feels rather important for how Martin approaches Cersei later in King's Landing.
 
Isn't calling it 'exhibitionism' an unnecessary exaggeration? She's crossing her own bedroom for a few seconds to get a dressing gown in front of her husband and the equivalent of the family doctor, not streaking through the great hall during a feast.
 
Isn't calling it 'exhibitionism' an unnecessary exaggeration? She's crossing her own bedroom for a few seconds to get a dressing gown in front of her husband and the equivalent of the family doctor, not streaking through the great hall during a feast.
Mm, that's fair - it probably was a bit of an overstatement on my part to be honest.
 
Arya I (Mean Girls, Westerosi Edition)
Content Warnings: Discussion of patriarchy

Arya, is not a very happy girl. She's stuck in a room with Sansa, a number of other girls and ladies, the princess Myrcella, and Septa Mordane - the religious tutor of her and Sansa. The group are practicing embroidery, and Arya's bad at it, doesn't like it, and doesn't really have any friends in the group - while Sansa is rather the opposite. Arya's a bit bitter that the Septa is complimenting the princess' needlework, even though it's a bit crooked too.

Sansa and her friends are talking quietly together, and Arya asks what they're talking about. The girls blush, before Sansa finally admits - while Mordane is distracted - that they were talking about Prince Joffrey; his prettiness, that Sansa's going to marry him and be queen of the realm (though Sansa says the girl who says this, Beth Cassel, the daughter of Ser Rodrik Cassel, Winterfell's master of arms, shouldn't 'Make up stories', implying she hasn't heard about the betrothal yet). Sansa asks what Arya thinks of Joffrey, and Arya says Jon says he looks like a girl.

This is the first evidence we see of Arya and Jon being closer than their other siblings, both because of Arya reporting what Jon says, and her defense of him. When Sansa sighs and says Jon gets jealous because he's a bastard, Arya speaks up loudly to say he's their brother - drawing the attention of Septa Mordane. Sansa, playing teacher's pet, points out Jon is their half-brother, and says to Mordane that they were just talking about how pleased they were to have Myrcella with them. Mordane approves, but notices Arya isn't working and asks to see her stitching. Arya gives it up, and Mordane criticises it - and, much like Jon when he drew too much attention in the great hall, Arya feels overwhelmed. Tears rise up in her eyes and she bolts for the door. Mordane scolds her about misbehaving in front of the princess, and Arya pauses, bows to Myrcella, then flees after a small quip.

The next paragraph is a lengthy enumeration of Arya's frustrations, especially with Sansa. She feels like Sansa is the perfect lady, while there was "nothing left" for Arya. Sansa has skill in sewing, music, dancing, poetry, dess, courtliness and is pretty, while Arya feels she takes after their father, and looks much less attractive. She remembers how Jeyne Poole, one of Sansa's friends, used to call her 'Horseface' and tease her about that - and it didn't help that riding (and apparently maths and administration, which are skills that don't usually get associated with Arya) are the only things she feels she's better than Sansa at. It's pretty clear to see why Jon and Arya are attached to one another here; they both feel like outsiders in their own family, devalued and overmatched by others out of no fault of their own, and they both look more Stark than Tully.

It's also worth noting here a theme which will come back again, and which I'll address more in future: The association of feminine crafts and paradigms within this soceity (through Sansa) with naivete, innefectualness and frivolity. There's a kind of devaluing of female work here, which is present elsewhere in the story, and which I feel comes from a rather pop-culture understanding of history - after all, who's weaving and sewing the clothes all these people are wearing? I remember Bret Devereaux talking about an account of a Scandinavian king who wept for the burning of his ships' sails more than for the ships themselves, because cloth is a hell of a thing to make by hand.

In any case, Arya finds her direwolf Nymeria waiting for her, and is instantly cheered up. The two go everywhere together, and Arya named her for a warrior-queen of the Rhoynar people. It's pretty clear to see what she values, and what kind of a woman she wants to be - especially as her next stop is the practice yard, because she wants "to see Robb put gallant Prince Joffrey flat on his back".

Arya makes her way through to a window looking down on the yard, where she finds Jon, and the two kids' wolves greet each other. Jon welcomes her up to sit beside him on the window, where they look down to see a heavily-padded Bran and Tommen going at each other with wooden swords, rather comically. The two banter a little, Jon ruffling Arya's hair; it's a cute scene, and we get some exposition about their connection - when she was little, Arya had been afraid she was a bastard too, because she had hair like their father rather than their mother, and gone to Jon for comfort, who had explained things to her. When she asks why he's not down there practicing, Jon says that
"Bastards are not allowed to damage young princes," he said. "Any bruises they take in the practice yard must come from trueborn swords."
Which is a nice little encapsulation of the absurdity of the whole thing. Arya says she could do better than Bran, and Jon tests her arm "with all his fourteen-year-old wisdom", saying she couldn't lift a longsword, which she doesn't like, but he ruffles her hair again and they return to their companionship.

We see another example of Jon's perceptiveness, as he points out Joffrey off to one side, and that he's wearing a surcoat where the sigils of his mother's family and the royal family are equal. Jon says the Lannisters are proud because of this, but it's also an inadvertent statement on the patriarchal world they live in that a mother's family should be considered 'proud' for marking the children. Arya points this out, and Jon jokes about Arya mingling the Stark and Tully arms. She says "A wolf with a fish in its mouth" would look silly, but bitterly reflects that
"if a girl can't fight, why should she have a coat of arms?" Jon says that
"Girls get the arms but not the swords. Bastards get the swords but not the arms."

Down below, Bran has pushed the prince over, and the bout is called to an end, with Robb and Prince Joffrey called forward. Joffrey mocks the activity as a game for children, and Theon Greyjoy riles them up, saying they're both children. Joffrey, angry, says they should fight with real swords. Robb, who's also a dumb teenager, agrees, but the master-of-arms refuses to give them any more than blunted swords - which Joffrey takes exception to. The prince thinks in terms of authority, pride and rights rather than sense. The prince's bodyguard backs him up, mostly it seems for a chance to shit on Rodrik. Joffrey makes some more quips and verbal barbs (rather flaccid, tbh), which his men laugh along to, and which piss off Robb and Rodrik. Finally, he leaves, and Jon says the show's over, and that Arya should go back to her room.
"The longer you hide, the sterner the penance. You'll be sewing all through winter. When the spring thaw comes, they will find your body with a needle still locked tight between your frozen fingers."
Foreshadowing much?

Arya protests it's not fair. Jon says nothing is fair, ruffles her hair again, and walks away. Arya heads back to her room, where she finds Septa Mordane, and her mother, waiting for her.

Returning to the theme I mentioned earlier of the devaluing of female work, it's also interesting to note that Martin seems much more approving of Arya transgressing against the misogynistic expectations of her sex (wanting to fight etc), than he is of men being effeminate, or women being feminine. As we'll see later with Catelyn, Martin seems to have a narrow understanding - which does get better in later books, I think, with characters like Margaery and Olenna Tyrell - of women as being totally excluded from power in a patriarchal society, and therefore female activities being largely inconsequential compared to male ones. Of course, in this he's falling into exactly the kind of misogynistic understanding of history and women's role in it that I think he's trying to criticise in fantasy which has historically cast women as helpless victims - he shows women breaking out of patriarchal roles to achieve violent power for themselves (Arya, Brienne, Dany), and women who evoke great pathos in their suffering (Sansa, Lollys Stokeworth, Jeyne Poole), but few who use and are valued within their positions to gain power for themselves via licit means (as opposed to villainous seductress archetypes like Cersei or Melisandre).

I'll be talking about this more as we go along.

Next chapter, Bran II, in which nothing bad happens at all.
 
Arya, is not a very happy girl. She's stuck in a room with Sansa, a number of other girls and ladies, the princess Myrcella, and Septa Mordane - the religious tutor of her and Sansa. The group are practicing embroidery, and Arya's bad at it, doesn't like it, and doesn't really have any friends in the group - while Sansa is rather the opposite. Arya's a bit bitter that the Septa is complimenting the princess' needlework, even though it's a bit crooked too.

Sansa and her friends are talking quietly together, and Arya asks what they're talking about. The girls blush, before Sansa finally admits - while Mordane is distracted - that they were talking about Prince Joffrey; his prettiness, that Sansa's going to marry him and be queen of the realm (though Sansa says the girl who says this, Beth Cassel, the daughter of Ser Rodrik Cassel, Winterfell's master of arms, shouldn't 'Make up stories', implying she hasn't heard about the betrothal yet). Sansa asks what Arya thinks of Joffrey, and Arya says Jon says he looks like a girl.
It is interesting to think about how this situation might have come about, in the sense that given later information Sansa doesn't seem to like Arya all that much and I kinda wonder what happened between them in the past. I don't recall much information on their earlier relationship.
 
One interesting thing often forgotten about is that Sandor backs Joffrey up, which is something I think often forgotten. Joffrey at the moment is a prince who while fairly spoiled is not showing any rampant sadism in public till he get's power.
 
It is interesting to think about how this situation might have come about, in the sense that given later information Sansa doesn't seem to like Arya all that much and I kinda wonder what happened between them in the past. I don't recall much information on their earlier relationship.
We don't get much specific detail, but it seems to be the case that Arya's always been a bit of a 'wild child', while Sansa conforms more to expectations of a lady, and her mother. As a result, she got more praise while Arya got more punishment, making Arya feel resentful (and more inclined to go do things she likes), while Sansa feels more superior, in that way 'gifted' kids do. Sansa's actually quite good at social stuff even while a kid (though she is naive), while Arya is kind of bad with people save when it comes to slipping beneath notice.
 
Super tired, so consider this the opening salvo


Moreover, the weirwoods and the Old Gods are presented as honestly rather Lovecraftian-adjacent - nameless powers in nature, connected to a pre-human species.
Makes me think of the interpretation of Shub-Niggurath as representing nature in all the ways that humans cannot fathom it. The things that reproduce by splitting in half or spreading spores, the things that live inside of other things, all the things that exist in ways that have next to nothing in common with ourselves.

In this case, the weirwoods have a strong link with one specific facet of this: the matter of time. Trees think and act at a radically slower pace than mammals, which might place them slightly closer to the timeless, nameless existence of the old gods.

Likewise, the dying out of the old faith would be calamitously rapid from the perspective of a tree, but so gradual as to be invisible for a human being. Generations of men live and die in the time it takes for a single tree to reach maturity - and the weirwoods, which are all but immortal from what I recall, are even further set apart from the human world.


o Catelyn, religion means anointing with sacred oils, incense, a septon (priest) with a censer, "voices raised in song". Its most important rites are conducted in churches - septs - and semantically it's associated in her mind with light, airiness and things built or created by human hands, rather than the natural surrounds of a Godswood, or divine beings without identity - which I think is what Catelyn/Martin means when they, as the Seven-Who-Are-One have identity, but not really names per se.


In any case, Catelyn finds her husband, and the first thing he asks her is where hte children are.


we now know that Valyria was a Freehold, that a Doom came to it, and that the sword Ned has is four hundred years olf, but
 
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