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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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Shard said:
I wonder if the Curse of Steel is the Curse of the Dead. That is, Steel holds the essence of death. Steelfathers are metaphysically dead, but alive. Steel Swords are metaphysically dead, and actually curse whoever you hit with deadness.
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That can't be the whole thing, Steel also cuts right through armor like it's not there (or at least that's the impression I got...it definitely ignores damage reduction) and is apparently unbreakable, so it's not just infused with death. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's part of the picture, though.
 
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Shard said:
I wonder if the Curse of Steel is the Curse of the Dead. That is, Steel holds the essence of death. Steelfathers are metaphysically dead, but alive. Steel Swords are metaphysically dead, and actually curse whoever you hit with deadness.
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This was my theory, yeah, with the mechanism of imbuing it with death essence being using the ash from the bones of ancestors/warriors. It's since been confirmed that it is possible to enhance and imbue metals in this way, so it seems... plausible?

This theory also explains why Steelfathers are kind of a literal dead end to cultivation. They must be spiritually stagnant; using the essence of death to make themselves invulnerable, but unable to grow as a result. Actually, I wonder if the process of becoming a Steelfather does not raze all the plants and living things inside the soul.
 
Skippy said:
This theory also explains why Steelfathers are kind of a literal dead end to cultivation. They must be spiritually stagnant; using the essence of death to make themselves invulnerable, but unable to grow as a result. Actually, I wonder if the process of becoming a Steelfather does not raze all the plants and living things inside the soul.
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That would also make sense as to why they need other people to gain Orthstirr for them, yeah.
 
The Soul begins empty.
What's worth noting though is that Steelfathers have issues gaining Orthsirr.

I wonder if Bram Ironjaw has the same issue or if he doesn't.

The story of how Blackhand went from being killed by Ironjaw to telling him the secrets of Odr at grave risk is an interesting one, but then we have already established that the fastest way to earn Blackhand's respect is to kill him dead (in honorable combat).
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
That can't be the whole thing, Steel also cuts right through armor like it's not there (or at least that's the impression I got...it definitely ignores damage reduction) and is apparently unbreakable, so it's not just infused with death. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's part of the picture, though.
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There absolutely might be something else going on, we definitely don't want to rule anything out. But I think both of those things could be explicable just from being infused with the power of death via bone ash. Death is unavoidable and immutable, hence the unbreakability; death cannot die. Death-as-entropy is also the ultimate destroyer, hence the dramatic effects on anything the blade is used on.

Also the inviolable nature of Steel blades would presumably allow you to put an edge on them much finer than you could keep with any regular metal, even using the Sharpen Trick, which might provide another explanation. If an inviolable blade which is only a ten thousandth of a millimetre wide contacts some regular steel chainmail, all the force will be on a tiny surface area and it's going to cut it like it's not even there.
 
It's pretty crazy for how this quest has had on average more than 1 update a day over it's life for such a long period of time.
 
Imperial Fister said:
Because it will literally never come up in story, what the NorseQuest Norse call Forged Iron is what we would call steel.
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...then, what would be the steel used in the quest in real life, I wonder......

....and if we are at metals anyways, does Damascus steel exists? The original one, I mean not the modern "Damascus patterned" steel.
Imperial Fister said:
Adding ashes to metal does indeed enhance it.
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Ah, here is is! All the mad smiths forging their loved ones into weapons and stuff :V

... Does make you wonder what would happen if a prominent Norse (warrior) would voluntarily walk into the smelting pot to be forged into a weapon, both with one of the core tenet of Norse cultivation being power requires sacrifice and what with things/actions willingly given/performed having more weight than those taken by force, in many cultures....
 
By the way Fister, what's the Svartalfar Cathki been doing?

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Also does Gabriel ever attend our Yule celebrations? Or does he stay out of it?

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Hey Blackhand, if someone wore an Iron Mask depicting my face, I would get the Orthsirr of their deeds. What if that someone wasn't a Norseman?
Hey Halla, does Minna have Orthsirr that you can detect? Does she have Henki and/or Vaki that you can sense?
 
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Shard said:
It's pretty crazy for how this quest has had on average more than 1 update a day over it's life for such a long period of time.
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Now if only I could apply that same drive to my schooling...

Well, I guess that's the difference between wanting to and having to.

Still, if you folks are starved for content, I could give you that intro, prologue, early edition thingy I found earlier today. It's 10k words, so it should tide you over. In my opinion, it's hot garbage — the tensing is even worse than it normally is! None of it is canon to NorseQuest, of course — beyond, perhaps, the reusing of character names.

There are three PoVs. Gabriel's, Halle's (proto-Halla), and a character that hasn't shown up in NorseQuest — a character from a cultivation system you haven't seen yet, to boot.
Shard said:
By the way Fister, what's the Svartalfar Cathki been doing?
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After leading you to the surface, he went home and took a nap.

Shard said:
Hey Blackhand, if someone wore an Iron Mask depicting my face, I would get the Orthsirr of their deeds. What if that someone wasn't a Norseman?
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'I have no idea. Maybe? Maybe not? Probably not.'
Shard said:
Hey Halla, does Minna have Orthsirr that you can detect? Does she have Henki and/or Vaki that you can sense?
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You haven't experienced henki or vaki enough to be able to tell the difference from orthstirr yet
 
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You know speaking of cultivation systems I imagine there are some old roman (pre christian) and Greek cults hidden around.

Do the Lithuanians/Baltic people have something based on Romuva?

Did you make something for the Sunni/Muslims?

We know the Finnish have something different so most of places east of them should be that or similar.

Do the Slavs have something different or similar.

... Sorry ideal thoughts and curiosities.
 
trent8688 said:
You know speaking of cultivation systems I imagine there are some old roman (pre christian) and Greek cults hidden around.
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It seems like you need a whole living culture for a cultivation system in this world, so an isolated cult probably doesn't have the mojo unless they're tapping into something the majority of the populace would acknowledge as real (ie: you can probably do a Satanic cult in Christian lands since they believe in that...a pagan cult to a God no longer worshiped outside those lands would be much harder).

trent8688 said:
Do the Lithuanians/Baltic people have something based on Romuva?
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Probably, though we lack confirmation.

trent8688 said:
Did you make something for the Sunni/Muslims?
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We've had it confirmed there's an Islamic Cultivation System, but absolutely no details on what it's like.

I believe the 'confirmed' list is Norse, Finnish, Feudal/Christian, Byzantine/Imperial, Islamic, Chinese, Japanese, and Hindu. Sami was also sorta confirmed when they got brought up, I think. We've theorized several others (and it's been stated that those aren't the only ones), but those are the confirmed ones, I think. Very little has been confirmed about any of them but Norse, Finnish, Feudal/Christian, and Byzantine/Imperial, which have all had various details put forth in varying amounts.

trent8688 said:
We know the Finnish have something different so most of places east of them should be that or similar.

Do the Slavs have something different or similar.

... Sorry ideal thoughts and curiosities.
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We haven't heard anything about the Slavs, but some sort of separate cultivation seems possible, yeah.
 
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Ironically, I can imagine a hypothetical future cultivation based on Amish communities would work semi similar to the Soul Farming mechanics here in the Norse system.
 
Do we know Halfdan's fighting style?
Also what weapon(s) did he get to replace Sagaseeker and Wanderlust? Did he commission a new sword from Sten?

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Oh yeah.

Hey Blackhand, so when I 'restore' my aspects after stoking them, I do it by calming my soul. Can I get a similar effect by using a Calm Charge?

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Do you know if there are 'breakpoints' with the amount of Odr I infuse my weapons and armor with to awaken their spirit? Like.. say, 3 or 9.
 
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Shard said:
Do we know Halfdan's fighting style?
Also what weapon did he get to replace Sagaseeker and Wanderlust? Did he commission a new sword from Sten?
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Beyond using an atgeir? No, we don't know his fighting style, though he taught us Skewer-Flick, IIRC, so that's likely a part of it. As for getting a replacement weapon, I assume he did it...I'm less certain what he got or from where. I don't think Sten is actually taking commissions right now, though Halfdan would likely be high on the list if he was, I admit, though he'd likely want an atgeir more than a sword (he was...enthusiastic about teaching us the atgeir).
 
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Oh right, do we know if Odr into Hamr did things other than 'just' make us tougher and give us more shapeshift slots?

Like, did Halla feel stronger?

Also, do we know if a Fylgja's Endurance and Strength are correlated with their shape, or if entirely irrelevant?
Or in other words, could our Owl totally outmuscle Abjorn the Bear?

It occurs to me that The Green Knight story would totally fit as a Norse Cultivator. Decapitated? No problem, let me go pick up my head and put it back on.
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Beyond using an atgeir? No, we don't know his fighting style, though he taught us Skewer-Flick, IIRC, so that's likely a part of it. As for getting a replacement weapon, I assume he did it...I'm less certain what he got or from where. I don't think Sten is actually taking commissions right now, though Halfdan would likely be high on the list if he was, I admit, though he'd likely want an atgeir more than a sword (he was...enthusiastic about teaching us the atgeir).
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I mean, how much of that ethusiasm was 'You saved by son's life' and how much of it was 'Atgeirr's are cool-ass weapons, come, let me teach you!'
 
If I were to bet? Odr Infusion makes that trait "More Real". Just Having Odr at all apparently makes you clearly identifiable as a Main Character, and they tend to have things like Plot Armor and talents beyond the norm.

So like, infusing into Hamr means that your grip on life is that much tighter, infusing into Hugr means that your mental strength takes a cohesive form in the form of Frenzy, infusing into Fylgja solidifies it into something cohesive enough to maintain long-term effects (Like Shapeshifts and Alloys)
 
Shard said:
Oh right, do we know if Odr into Hamr did things other than 'just' make us tougher and give us more shapeshift slots?

Like, did Halla feel stronger?
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It doesn't do anything else mechanical, well, nothing we've figured out anyway. Another use we haven't figured out is always a possibility.

Shard said:
Also, do we know if a Fylgja's Endurance and Strength are correlated with their shape, or if entirely irrelevant?
Or in other words, could our Owl totally outmuscle Abjorn the Bear?
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We definitely don't know this. The only thing we've been told is that the max weight of Fylgja Capacity slots is based on what Halla can lift...which implies, at least, that there's some connection there. By that metric, Abjorn's is definitely stronger, though...not because it's a bear, but because his Hamr is higher than ours.

Shard said:
It occurs to me that The Green Knight story would totally fit as a Norse Cultivator. Decapitated? No problem, let me go pick up my head and put it back on.
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True. There's a lot of talk about how the Green Knight represents pagan forces in regards to that story, so that probably tracks pretty well.

Shard said:
I mean, how much of that ethusiasm was 'You saved by son's life' and how much of it was 'Atgeirr's are cool-ass weapons, come, let me teach you!'
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Probably some of the former, yeah, but I recall him specifying teaching us the atgeir, so I think there was a bit of the latter as well.
 
Hrm, another thing that comes to mind.

@Imperial Fister , about how much Fireproof Oil would we need to quench a finished product with? Assuming that's something we do? I'm wondering if we can use it to imbue a finished set of mail with the fireproof effect.
 
trent8688 said:
... Sorry ideal thoughts and curiosities.
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While Deadman's already answered most of these, I'd just like to say thank you for your questions.
Shard said:
Hey Blackhand, so when I 'restore' my aspects after stoking them, I do it by calming my soul. Can I get a similar effect by using a Calm Charge?
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'I believe so, yes. I think that you might be able to only restore one aspect per charge, but that's more than enough to make a massive difference.'
Shard said:
Do you know if there are 'breakpoints' with the amount of Odr I infuse my weapons and armor with to awaken their spirit? Like.. say, 3 or 9.
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'I was not much of a crafter... which is probably why the Enemy was able to get forces to counter whatever I was doing on Gotland.'
Alectai said:
@Imperial Fister , about how much Fireproof Oil would we need to quench a finished product with? Assuming that's something we do? I'm wondering if we can use it to imbue a finished set of mail with the fireproof effect.
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Ehhhh, depends on the object you're quenching, its size specifically. I reckon that mail would be, like, three.
 
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