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Alectai said:
I've made an adjustment on the plan to add a contingency if 'Hasvir' does that squirrely thing where he tries to answer without giving his name again.

EDIT: The plan usually isn't taken verbatim, it's just a good outline.
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Would be hilarious if Hasvir does it again and we nail him on that.
We'd have the First outlawing before the first round of the 9 voting.
And if that doesn't break Horras neck (we need nett 2 more judges leaning our way to have Horra) we can push him on the question If He really didn't know.
Imperial Fister said:
There is no trial for committing perjury. It is an instant full outlawing.
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Mmm, true enough.

Pressing him on his actual name seems like a good play though, everyone else has been actively named and introduced while under oath, he's notably not been.

Technically, it's not perjury, he's not lied and neither has 'Hasvir', he just wasted the time of the group, but it's an awful look for Horra that he's had a body double pretending to be his son here, that casts the rest of his testimony in question. He'd take Nid on the spot, and not a small amount of it, and then everyone else is going to be more careful with him too.
 
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Man. Everyone in the courtroom now knows that there is some fuckery going on.

Halla able to accuse 'Hasvir' directly while bound under Oath, and Hasvir able to deny the same while also under oath.
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-[X] "I admit, this was not necessarily enough to warrant much suspicion, after all, the quarrel between our houses has been silent for some time, and I would not completely put out the possibility of another manipulating us. And yet, defending this very Scorn-Pole was a Troll! When my fellows and I undid the spell on the Pole, we laid a trap for the Troll. When it was injured, I tricked it into thinking it had been betrayed whomever set up the Scorn-Pole. It spoke then of one 'Drysalt' putting him in contact with another who sold the hill to him--on the condition that he protect the Pole, and proceeded to turn away, vengeance in his heart. Seeking an opportunity to track down the curse-maker, I followed it, wishing to get to the bottom of this deed most foul, and who does it confront? But Horra Hasvison, his son in tow. It let out an accusation, of being cheated, and was promptly struck down with an iron dagger infused with the power of the Sun, its remains worn away by Hasvir's son."
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This bolded and underlined part should be Horra's son.

Exact phrasing, etc.
 
I wonder if it's possible one of Halla's descendants will end up in China with a knight and a samurai.

A Viking with xianxia martial arts would be a sight to see.
 
I wonder if we could rune-up a "dispel illusion" effect during the trial. Might be difficult, it's not like we could touch Hasvir or throw something at him in a room full of people without provoking a fight.
 
Alectai said:
I wonder if there's a shot we'll get a double-tap update tonight? This is interesting.
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I'll give it a shot.

No promises, though.

Closing vote now
Scheduled vote count started by Imperial Fister on May 18, 2023 at 6:34 PM, finished with 51 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Plan: Press the Attack
    -[X] "I admit, this was not necessarily enough to warrant much suspicion, after all, the quarrel between our houses has been silent for some time, and I would not completely put out the possibility of another manipulating us. And yet, defending this very Scorn-Pole was a Troll! When my fellows and I undid the spell on the Pole, we laid a trap for the Troll. When it was injured, I tricked it into thinking it had been betrayed whomever set up the Scorn-Pole. It spoke then of one 'Drysalt' putting him in contact with another who sold the hill to him--on the condition that he protect the Pole, and proceeded to turn away, vengeance in his heart. Seeking an opportunity to track down the curse-maker, I followed it, wishing to get to the bottom of this deed most foul, and who does it confront? But Horra Hasvison, his son in tow. It let out an accusation, of being cheated, and was promptly struck down with an iron dagger infused with the power of the Sun, its remains worn away by Horra's son, also named as Hasvir."
    -[X] "Now, admittedly, the Drysalt question is still up in the air, so I continued digging in the aftermath of this, this is likely when my Fylgja was noticed. I certainly have no idea how that somehow became thievery, as I've not taken a thing from your property, but given how as far as I know, you set up a forbidden curse pole and set a Troll to guard it, I had no reason to expect you to welcome me with open arms, and I had every reason to be trying to protect my family from such magic."
    -[X] Contingency: If Hasvir does that squirrelly thing again where he tries to swear without actually giving his name, press him on that, it's a weird thing to focus on, and you know Horra's a fleshcrafter. You wouldn't rule out that this is a body-double.
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Here's hoping our dice still remain fairly solid.

So far, our arguments are pretty good I think, and we still have a large bonus that shouldn't be falling, but who knows what kind of nonsense is going on.
 
Fingers crossed. Hopefully as long as we can get the judges to sense some Oath-shenanigans going on, they'll be properly skeptical of Horra and further weaken his position.
 
Depending on points and counterpoints, we may want to think about how to pace out our remaining time. We have a referendum after this, then Rounds 3 & 4 before another referendum, and then Rounds 5 & 6 to finishHorra off. Imperial Fister said that the second referendum would be the time to vote on sending people to search the sanctum, so we may want to set that up accordingly.
 
I think we're aiming for the Sanctum Hit right before the second Referendum, and I think we're in a position to do that.

It's too soon to hit him with the deathblow, but he should be down to 6 autos this turn.
 
Silverking said:
Depending on points and counterpoints, we may want to think about how to pace out our remaining time. We have a referendum after this, then Rounds 3 & 4 before another referendum, and then Rounds 5 & 6 to finishHorra off. Imperial Fister said that the second referendum would be the time to vote on sending people to search the sanctum, so we may want to set that up accordingly.
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We're honestly fine. So long as we make it past the next breakpoint undeterred, we can open up the floodgates after the next round. Horra burning his cards on the muffled identity and having his daughter reveal her involvement only for us to have a good excuse for Halla's presence investigating his homestead.

And with the thievery thing being categorically false. Unless he wants to admit to supplying nearby bandits, that is.

But we see what Wolfwind and his son are here for: They're collectively ablative. We really should've brought someone to testify on the Seeress' behalf, then we could've nailed Horra to the wall for placing that failsafe on him. Family, no less.
 
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TehChron said:
We're honestly fine. So long as we make it past the next breakpoint undeterred, we can open up the floodgates after the next round. Horra burning his cards on the muffled identity and having his daughter reveal her involvement only for us to have a good excuse for Halla's presence investigating his homestead.

And with the thievery thing being categorically false. Unless he wants to admit to supplying nearby bandits, that is.
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Yeah, the thievery is a complete fabrication unless he wants to accuse us of stealing the crossbow, but that exposes him to us saying "That was yours? I took that from a cart going to Sharkmouth's Felag, who I was observing after defeating Lars' Felag. Funny story about that, my brother Sten and I inspected it, and it was definitely dwarf-design that had been repurposed for the hands of men, how interesting that you--a sun iron wielding individual with great, inexplicable wealth, have acquired dwarf-designed weapons at the same time the Lurkalings have begun wielding sun-iron weapons to displace our neighbors in the Ducklings."
 
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Shard said:
I really hope we're on track to winning this thing.
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We're certainly on track at the moment. We're in the lead right now (5 people leaning our way, and the two neutrals are people we have some particularly strong ways of swaying), and we have a slight advantage in the upcoming roll barring weirdness (we average 20 successes with 12d6+12, while Horra averages 18 with 15d6+8, unless that goes down again in which case our odds get better), though not enough to ensure success, and we have resources to really tip the odds in our favor on an important roll or two as well (Odr and burning our Aspects).

A couple bad rolls could swing that momentum, but I think even then we can do this, just likely with more resource expenditure.

Alectai said:
Yeah, the thievery is a complete fabrication unless he wants to accuse us of stealing the crossbow, but that exposes him to us saying "That was yours? I took that from a cart going to Sharkmouth's Felag, after I discovered their association after I defeated Lars' felag to the east. Funny story about that, we inspected it and it was definitely dwarf-design that had been repurposed for the hands of men, how interesting that you--a sun iron wielding individual with great, inexplicable wealth, have acquired dwarf-designed weapons at the same time the Lurkalings have begun wielding sun-iron weapons to displace our neighbors in the Ducklings."
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I'm pretty sure this is Wolfwind's gift to us, by the way. Horra must have figured out there was an arrow-thrower missing, but not when it was taken. If we'd stolen it from his place, he'd have a good case.
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I'm pretty sure this is Wolfwind's gift to us, by the way. Horra must have figured out there was an arrow-thrower missing, but not when it was taken. If we'd stolen it from his place, he'd have a good case.
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Which is why I'm reciprocating it by not naming him as guarding that shipment, yeah.

We can probably get the Seeress' testimony after the deliberation though.
 
Shard said:
Also, this part is not technically lying right?
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Not lying at all, we didn't take anything from his property. We were actually very careful not to take anything with us that was on his territory. We were strictly observation.

We did claim a powerful weapon that was going to a bandit Felag, but that wasn't on his property, it was intercepted mid-shipment, unless he's claiming that he was supplying bandits after all. In which case, sure! We stole a crossbow that was going to supply a Viking felag that was plaguing the north. That was yours?
 
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Shard said:
I feel like Halla really should have known how to get the Seeress' testimony to the court.
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The Seeress's only useful testimony is that Horra has something in Wolfwind's neck, and Wolfwind kind of has to say 'Oh, that's fine, just a shapecrafted thing I requested.' if asked given it's a kill switch.

Alectai said:
Which is why I'm reciprocating it by not naming him as guarding that shipment, yeah.
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Yeah, just noting for the record.

Alectai said:
We can probably get the Seeress' testimony after the deliberation though.
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Like, what will she testify about? I'm not against this, but I'm not thinking of anything.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
The Seeress's only useful testimony is that Horra has something in Wolfwind's neck, and Wolfwind kind of has to say 'Oh, that's fine, just a shapecrafted thing I requested.' if asked given it's a kill switch.
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But that'd be lying on his part, automatically screwing him over.

If we don't care about his survival, then that forced lie and the penalties of such would immediately cast shade on Horra's case.
 
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