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Mythological weapons/objects as WMDs

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Somehow inspired by the Super Crusader Kings? thread, what if, instead of the nuclear bomb and other such wonders of science, countries were possessors of the now real magical/mythological objects (mainly weapons) depicted in legends and tales around the world? Excalibur, Durandal, Ascalon: those artifacts are ranked at the same level of potency as weapons of mass destruction in our world. Countries possessing more than 3 are considered superpowers.

Only restriction: said artifacts must have been wielded by an human (demigods included) in the stories they are mentionned in, divine weapons belonging to gods are off limits, unless said god lent it to a mortal at least once. So no Gungnir, no Mjollnir, and no Zeus' lightning bolts. Everything else is fair game.

I wonder what happens to North America?
 
France:

Charlemagne's sword, Joyeuse.
Turpin's sword, Almace.
Roland's sword, Durendal.

That is just from the top of my head. I'm certain there are more involved.
 
What defines a myth though? because US comics and Japanese manga/anime of sufficient popularity/cultural weight can blow this whole thing out of whack.
 
Turtol said:
What defines a myth though? because US comics and Japanese manga/anime of sufficient popularity/cultural weight can blow this whole thing out of whack.
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Nah, just that list on Wikipedia.

To answer your question, the mythological stories I am reffering to are (or were) not usually considered fiction by the people or community which created them, but true accounts of past events or the present state of the world. Comics and manga don't fall under this.
 
What's the line between a legendary/mythological weapon and a famous weapon with an embellished reputation? For example, Honda Tadakatsu, one of Tokugawa Ieyasu's subordinates, was said to have used a spear named Tonbo-giri. Does that count as a legendary/mythological weapon? If not, what about Gan Jiang and Mo Ye, which couldn't be forged until Mo Ye cast herself into the furnace to fuel its flames?
 
Well depending on your interpretation the first crusade did find the Lance of Longinus in Antioch, which then apparently led to go smiting a Muslim army. So who would that fall to? It was found by Peter Bartholomew, a French Monk who found it in a Middle Eastern city, and it was then used to rally English, French and German soldiers.
 
Polokun said:
Wouldn't England auto take over since they have the Holy Grail then? XD
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Even if they don't have it, they still have 13 awesome toys to play with.

God and the Snake said:
Damn Scandinavians and their bloody Mjolnir.
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Sorry, they don't get Mjollnir since only Thor wielded it. However, they still have Tyrfing and Dainsleif.
NotSBReece said:
Well depending on your interpretation the first crusade did find the Lance of Longinus in Antioch, which then apparently led to go smiting a Muslim army. So who would that fall to? It was found by Peter Bartholomew, a French Monk who found it in a Middle Eastern city, and it was then used to rally English, French and German soldiers.
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Actually, both sides, Christians and Muslims alike, realized the priest was bullshit. IIRC, he was arrested.
 
So, what do New-World countries get? Does Canada, since it still has the UK's Monarch as it's official Head of State, get British weapons? does the US get to pick-and-choose based on ethnic background? Does Mexico use Spanish of Nahua weapons?
 
Boristus said:
So, what do New-World countries get? Does Canada, since it still has the UK's Monarch as it's official Head of State, get British weapons? does the US get to pick-and-choose based on ethnic background? Does Mexico use Spanish of Nahua weapons?
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Whatever culture they have managed to assimilate the most maybe? Or perhaps the most common denomination? I know German-American is really prevelant.

And we in the UK get Lizzie, whom we shall drop from a plane onto the enemy where she explodes into a crown shaped mushroom cloud before reforming in London.
 
Boristus said:
So, what do New-World countries get? Does Canada, since it still has the UK's Monarch as it's official Head of State, get British weapons? does the US get to pick-and-choose based on ethnic background? Does Mexico use Spanish of Nahua weapons?
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Probably Native American legendary weapons I suppose.

Oddly, this is reminding me of a "Historical Frozen" where the movie happened in real life along with Tangled. Due to Elsa's existence revealing that magic exists, the various powers went out to search for their own. Basically, anyone with a powerful magic user or item would be the 19th Century version of a nuclear armed state, with a United Scandinavia being the most powerful for the longest time as the got Elsa.
 
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