Okay, I checked back on it, and I could certainly make it work since it sounds like it's pretty interesting. Of course, I won't go into any more details on the matter because spoilers...
I look forward to it. So long as we have a chance to Naboo some anti-Jedi battle droids, I'm happy.
 
When will the new traits are going to be upated on the characther sheet?
Now.
Darth Traya: A title given to you by its past owner, for there must always be a Darth Traya. It represents how you have "betrayed" the teachings of both the Jedi and Sith in favor of your own philosophies as well as a symbol of the trials you overcame on Malachor II. +6 Lore, +4 Learning
Exile's Resolution: Asajj has gone through a crucible during her time on Malachor II and it has set her on the path to overcoming her fears. This has not only had very positive effects on her personality, but that resolve has allowed her to become stronger still in the Force. +4 Diplomacy, +2 Lore
 
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So Ventress is now at 38 for Lore and 17 for Diplomancy whereas Ciaran is at 18 for Learning and 33 for Lore. How appropriately thematic. Ventress' connection and understanding of the Force AND of people/the universe in general increased when she was able to start moving beyond her own pain and betrayals and Ciaran's when she was forced to acknowledge that she knows nothing, to cast aside her prior preconceptions and acknowledge that she had much to learn, hence her additional boost in Learning. A nice cherry to plant atop the Echoes update @Dr. Snark well done!
 
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I feel i should say I didn't intend for the scene to be canon, more that I wanted a way to present the idea that wouldn't get shot down.

Because, you gotta admit, this would solve a good 70% of our Jedi problems, having Yoda willing to play ball like this.
 
The Rule of Two​

Palpatine found Lady Ciaran an annoyance more often than not, but on occasion she could be humorous. Like her calling both himself and Dooku to Mandalore to discuss peace. It appeared she had let her success at the ceasefire go to her head and was now aiming for galactic peace. It would have been laughable even if he hadn't been controlling both sides of the war. As it was he had agreed to attend, and commanded Dooku to do the same, in order for Dooku to commit some form of diplomatic grievance and give him an excuse to escalate the conflict further.

He entered the private conference room Ciaran had arranged for, and saw that he was the last to arrive. Ciaran herself sat at the head of the table, with Dooku seated to her left. The Count of Serreno ceased his meditation as his master entered, and Palpatine sat down across from Dooku.

Ciaran cleared her throat and initiated the doomed proceedings. "So which of us is going to die here?" she asked. Palpatine fancied himself a planner, a plotter on a galactic scale, orchestrating a coup of all power in the galaxy that the Sith had been building towards for centuries. He prided himself on his ability to adjust his plans around any possible occurrence and keep going unimpeded.

Yet Lady Ciaran had, for the first time in decades, taken Sheev Palpatine completely off guard and rendered him speechless. The sheer novelty of the situation of being caught flat footed an unprepared certainly didn't help him collect his thoughts. Dooku on the other hand was able to recover faster, a benefit of being less skilled in his planning, and found his voice. "Is this a threat, Lady Ciaran? What is the meaning of this?"

"Don't blame me, it's your own idiotic rules that forbid the existence of a third Sith Lord." said Ciaran defensively. "So do we draw lots to decide or…"

Palpatine finally remembered how words worked and gave form to one of the many thoughts running through his head as he tried to make sense of the nonsense Lady Ciaran was spouting. "What are you talking about, Sith? This is a meeting to attempt to form a peace treaty between the Confederacy of Independent Systems and the Republic, is it not?"

"Well that was the ruse." said Ciaran, rolling her eyes with a heavy sigh. "It's becoming clear you're both imbeciles who need things spelled out for you like children. Tyrannus." Ciaran pointed to Count Dooku, also known as Darth Tyrannus. "Sidious." She turned her finger to Sheev Palpatine, who plotted galactic domination as Darth Sidious. "Traya." said Ciaran, pointing the finger at herself.

Darth Sidious' blood ran cold. He, like all Sith, had heard tales of the heretic who had shunned both the Jedi and the Sith in her machinations to kill the Force itself. She was the bogeyman of every Force user, every living creature in the galaxy, who knew of her. And Lady Ciaran was leaving very little room for interpretation of her claim to be Darth Traya.

"That explains your consistent success in the face of our plans." said Sidious, trying not to let his panic show. "So to what end have you lured us here?"

"The Sith have the Rule of Two, yes? Only two Sith may exist in the galaxy at once, yet here sit three. We must decide who shall become one with the Force in order to correct this imbalance." said Lady Ciaran, no, Darth Traya. "I was thinking we put it to a vote. We're all civilized people here, yes?"

Dooku grasped her words and sneered at her. "Then I shall vote against you, if solely to end this farce."

"Tit for tat, Tyrannus my dear. My vote goes for you." Darth Traya turned to Palpatine and smiled serenely. "It appears you have the tiebreaker, Darth Sidious.

Sidious heard her words and began plotting. She said that they would vote on which Sith would leave these chambers in a body bag, but no one offered peace without being prepared for war. And Darth Traya was not a stupid woman. She knew he and Dooku were working together, and would no doubt vote against her. Which meant she intended to fight and kill them both. And if even a quarter of the stories about her were true, he and Tyrannus would lose. Badly.

"I cast my vote for Darth Tyrannus then." said Sidious. Count Dooku had served Sidious well, but such transient things such as loyalty evaporated like so much nothing in the face of survival. Dooku's face paled, and he reached for his lightsaber, but Sidious was faster. Lightning sprung forth from his fingers, striking Darth Tyrannus, and making his exit from this world agonizing.

Darth Traya turned to him, still smiling. "Good. Now that that's settled, may I fetch you some refreshment?"


AN: I just like the idea of Ciaran realizing that she can imply enough power by acting confident as fuck to make Sidious back down. Next omake will be a tad more serious.
 
Additional update from the front page! Ventress' occupation has changed

Name: Asajj Ventress
Species: Dathomirian
Age: 20s
Occupation: Sith Exile

In addition, Ventress' Rival trait has been modified
Rival (Ciaran): While they are on the same side, Asajj has not lost her drive to overcome Ciaran...though at least now it's a somewhat more constructive rivalry. Should Ciaran's Martial stat ever exceed hers, her stats will automatically match Ciaran's. (Lore boost negated due to Ciaran's traits)

I'm just going to assume that the Darth Traya trait accomplished this but wonder just what else it can do/did for Ciaran....the power of having come to understand your own philosophy and its place in the greater universe is a mighty one indeed.
 
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This is what happens when Ciaran rolls a Nat 20 on an Intimidate check. +10, non-canon.

Though I will caution people that for obvious reasons using the name Darth Traya in any context is very much a double-edged sword...

as in just as likely to get orbital bombardment dropped on us as getting an intimidation boost?
 
I have to admit, I was half expecting "I call this preliminary meeting of the second Sith Triumvirate to order."
The problem with that is that it requires the three Sith to see each other as roughly equal. Which is a problem for Dooku, who is directly subservient to Palpatine, and Palpatine, who is incapable of seeing someone as his equal. He capable of seeing people as his betters, and he usually sees people as beneath him, but never equal.
 
I have to admit, I was half expecting "I call this preliminary meeting of the second Sith Triumvirate to order."
i would love that.
if this was a sith quest
god i want a sith quest.but a true sith quest, one where you hear "emotions" you don't automatically jump to "i want to be a giant rage monster." instead of "hey lets see what happens when i use joy to power the dark side, it's not like anyone is stupid enough not to right?"
 
So...anyone want to write an omake that is basically the various Sith Spirits sitting in a bar watching what's going on? With the various old sith lords taking bets on what's going to happen next?
 
i would love that.
if this was a sith quest
god i want a sith quest.but a true sith quest, one where you hear "emotions" you don't automatically jump to "i want to be a giant rage monster." instead of "hey lets see what happens when i use joy to power the dark side, it's not like anyone is stupid enough not to right?"

Where on earth does the idea that the Dark Side is emotion in general come from? The Dark Side is Fear, Anger and Hate, that's it.

It's the murderous Edge Lord side of the Force when applied to the whiny sort.
 
Where on earth does the idea that the Dark Side is emotion in general come from?
Mostly from the Jedi choosing to shun all emotions, rather than just the dark ones.

And to be fair, it's not like lighter emotions can't be twisted to fuel the Dark Side. Joy taken from the pain of others is half of what gets Sheev out of bed every morning.

I mean seriously, look at this man:






That is a happy man. That is someone who loves his life and enjoys his work. Who greets every day with a smile at the thought of what he's going to accomplish.
 
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The problem with that is that it requires the three Sith to see each other as roughly equal. Which is a problem for Dooku, who is directly subservient to Palpatine, and Palpatine, who is incapable of seeing someone as his equal. He capable of seeing people as his betters, and he usually sees people as beneath him, but never equal.

Im not even sure if Sidious can see any one or anything as his superior, he could be im from of Revan, Darth Vitiate, the Ones, Darth Bane and Metra Suri and he will claim he is superior to every one there.
 
Where on earth does the idea that the Dark Side is emotion in general come from? The Dark Side is Fear, Anger and Hate, that's it.

It's the murderous Edge Lord side of the Force when applied to the whiny sort.
the dark side is the emotional spectrum applied to the force, it's not evil, using just evil emotions is stupid.
same applies to the light, if robots used the force they could only use the light, because they have no emotions
 
the dark side is the emotional spectrum applied to the force, it's not evil, using just evil emotions is stupid.
same applies to the light, if robots used the force they could only use the light, because they have no emotions

No it isn't, the Dark Side is always Fear, Anger and Hate, like, always. Being happy doesn't let you diddly squat with the Force, the reason the Jedi eschew attachments, like romance, is to avoid things like fear of loss, jealousy, anger at loss/betrayal, hate from same etc.
No Jedi would say that being cheerful all day will send you down the Dark Side, they're about control and discipline not 'beep boop, emotion bad!'

I mean crikey, look at Yoda! The little bugger is emoting all the time! Or the Archive Librarian, who's kind of a bitch! Name me one Jedi we see that's emotionless.

Mostly from the Jedi choosing to shun all emotions, rather than just the dark ones.

And to be fair, it's not like lighter emotions can't be twisted to fuel the Dark Side. Joy taken from the pain of others is half of what gets Sheev out of bed every morning.

I mean seriously, look at this man:






That is a happy man. That is someone who loves his life and enjoy his work. Who greets every day with a smile at the thought of what he's going to accomplish.


Well yes but he's also a sadistic psychopath, I wager he's one of the few people in the Galaxy capable of being happy whilst being full of hate and rage all the time.
 
Where on earth does the idea that the Dark Side is emotion in general come from? The Dark Side is Fear, Anger and Hate, that's it.

It's the murderous Edge Lord side of the Force when applied to the whiny sort.
Actually before the rule of the two was created there was a lord sith that used love to fuel his power over the dark side he was ironically killed by his student that he treated as a daughter.

In the other hand he went kind of insane and tried to destroy the siths and start them again from zero this time teaching that all the emotions could give power.

But he was capable of creating indestructible forcefields that covered entire cities using the dark side so he couldn't have been completely wrong.
 
Actually before the rule of the two was created there was a lord sith that used love to fuel his power over the dark side he was ironically killed by his student that he treated as a daughter.

In the other hand he went kind of insane and tried to destroy the siths and start them again from zero this time teaching that all the emotions could give power.

But he was capable of creating indestructible forcefields that covered entire cities using the dark side so he couldn't have been completely wrong.

Oh dear, that's some irritating EU thing isn't it?

At least tell me he was using that love to fuel his anger.
 
Actually before the rule of the two was created there was a lord sith that used love to fuel his power over the dark side he was ironically killed by his student that he treated as a daughter.

In the other hand he went kind of insane and tried to destroy the siths and start them again from zero this time teaching that all the emotions could give power.

But he was capable of creating indestructible forcefields that covered entire cities using the dark side so he couldn't have been completely wrong.
this. you can use any emotion for the dark side.
the hole dark side bad light side good nonsense was lucas not understanding thing in anything but good and bad and nothing in the middle
like say a sith being a good guy. lucas would never have made that.
i would though, even if your just using anger and hate and fear(which you should not) you can morph that into good things.
a former slave can use the fear of losing freedom, the hate he feels upon slavers and the anger of knowing that there are more slaves out there in the first place. boom instant revolutionary. if using other emotions like joy and happiness. those both go into the fact that he found a sith holocron as a slave and used the force, and the dark side, to save himself
 
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