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Matter of Faith (BTVS / OC)

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Well, IIRC, slayers are kind of picked? So Faith was already a slayer, she just don't know it yet. So if we start bashing faces in, enventually we and Faith will cross path
 
munchkinomatic said:
Well, IIRC, slayers are kind of picked? So Faith was already a slayer, she just don't know it yet. So if we start bashing faces in, enventually we and Faith will cross path
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she wasn't a slayer. they do get picked, but only when the last one dies. depending on how the gm is rolling with the lore, she might not be until/unless the great mass calling of slayers happens. she's deffinately a potential, but that doesn't make her any more likely to believe in the uugy-boogeys out there, or even slightly more likely to survive in a fight with a vampire.
 
munchkinomatic said:
Well, IIRC, slayers are kind of picked? So Faith was already a slayer, she just don't know it yet. So if we start bashing faces in, enventually we and Faith will cross path
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That's not how Slayers work.

Faith is a Potential, a girl who could become a Slayer but isn't, and as such she is not, physicaly or otherwise, different from any other girl you could meet. Only after the current Slayer dies is it possible that she could be chosen to be the next mystically empowered demon fighter, which means that she is the Slayer and has all the advantages of being such.
 
Thank, I am not familiar with the mechanic behind Slayers. I think we shouldn't fudge with her too much until she became a Slayer, who know what our actions can change

What ARE we though? Is there any other case in Buffyverse that is simillar to us?
AbZHz101 said:
Well there's this:

All about fighting and dying so that those who come after won't have to. That work for you?
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It seem good for a generic theme, but I was thinking of a battle theme, something that play while we kick down doors and smite people

May be battlefield? It is suitably epic and fast paced. The theme is about fighting an unstoppable darkness with the power of heaven
 
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So... could we accidentally end up saving whoever died and got that Faith Girl promoted to Slayer-dom? Leading to her not becoming one and staying a normal Girl?
 
On the slayer thing. Girls are traditionally assigned a watcher who abducts and raises her. Based on what I remember this is what happened to Kendra. Basically the watches can find slayers somehow. Faith was one that didn't get caught younger. So she had time to develop on her own. Poorly might I add.

The 'adoption' processes are the watcher doing the grab the easy way. She's actually near the point where she will be invalid. So the watcher is more scholarly than normal. They want to set Faith up for enforcer work should she not be called. Mundane stuf thats needed to keep the org running.

It's actually a pretty good job. It's just a long learning curve. Of course when she gets called that's all moot
 
Lost Star said:
On the slayer thing. Girls are traditionally assigned a watcher who abducts and raises her. Based on what I remember this is what happened to Kendra. Basically the watches can find slayers somehow. Faith was one that didn't get caught younger. So she had time to develop on her own. Poorly might I add.

The 'adoption' processes are the watcher doing the grab the easy way. She's actually near the point where she will be invalid. So the watcher is more scholarly than normal. They want to set Faith up for enforcer work should she not be called. Mundane stuf thats needed to keep the org running.

It's actually a pretty good job. It's just a long learning curve. Of course when she gets called that's all moot
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What power scale are you running this on? The show and comics vary wildly with in one episode humans kill vampires on on one with ease then later on a vampire can bend metal and with a flick of a hand send people flying 30 feet, hell i remember an episode where buffy bends the steel barrel of a gun, is it just vampires vary in power through natural ability and age or are you gonna try to make it consistent?
 
skaro said:
Well,why we need to befriend Faith?. We can stay away form teenager drama and survive by being oblivious jock.
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If you don't want drama why do you want us interacting with our drunk father?
And frankly, Faith offers plenty of stuff that could come in handy in the future - being friends with someone who could become the Slayer is incredible.
 
Lost Star said:
On the slayer thing. Girls are traditionally assigned a watcher who abducts and raises her. Based on what I remember this is what happened to Kendra. Basically the watches can find slayers somehow. Faith was one that didn't get caught younger. So she had time to develop on her own. Poorly might I add.

The 'adoption' processes are the watcher doing the grab the easy way. She's actually near the point where she will be invalid. So the watcher is more scholarly than normal. They want to set Faith up for enforcer work should she not be called. Mundane stuf thats needed to keep the org running.

It's actually a pretty good job. It's just a long learning curve. Of course when she gets called that's all moot
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I thought it was more the reverse. The watcher adopts, barters for, etc legitmately gains guardianship of the young girl or other wise watches with abuction being the result of the shit hitting the fan.
 
Pretty sure that usually the kid doesn't get to choose, and that the choice of the parent/guardian of the kid boil down to 'give us your kid (or die, but we aren't telling you that).'
 
Larekko12 said:
I thought it was more the reverse. The watcher adopts, barters for, etc legitmately gains guardianship of the young girl or other wise watches with abuction being the result of the shit hitting the fan.
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I don't think they really care personally.

Most of their (Watchers) Slayers are raised as functional cultists with little to no connection to the outside world because ... well why would you want a potentially supernaturally powerful weapon to not be under your control.

Off course they don't go killing off their potential Slayers because their watchers would object, but well, wouldn't it be grand if and appreciated if you gave them all the training just in case they get called.

Granted the Potential needs to work really hard and likely to the detriment of their personal life but hey, they'll appreciate it if they get called.

And if not you, the Potential, can still help humanity. Train the next one in your footsteps since you know how best to teach because you were taught for it once upon a time. Know what makes girls tick as it were. Know how to get them to focus on their training cause really, do you want them to die even faster from not having enough training and practice before hand.

If that's not your cup of tea we have many many places Important things that someone with your skills can do. If you want we still have our GED course to give you the qualification needed. It will take a lot of work, months if not years, since we couldn't give it with your combat training, but it's there. And in the mean time nothing is stopping you with helping with ... part time jobs as it were.

Fidelis Custos (Faithful Watchers)
 
On the matter on Watcher's taking in Potential Slayers... well the main reason so far as I'm aware of is simply because it gives the Watchers the opportunity to indoctrinate the Potential because of the tiny problem with consent.

Essentially what do you do if the Slayer said no.

Ignoring whether the Watcher in charge of the Slayer is supportive of more... unethical means of persuasion, the simple fact of the matter is that you're simultaneously relying on someone to take out a problem you can't who you can't truly force to do anything.

So the simple and :turian:best:turian: answer is to make sure that any potential Slayer is where possible encouraged to go out and kill anything that the Council want's them to kill. Obedience is better than the stick in regards to effectiveness but if all else fails duty, aggresion, etc are all perfectly good substitutes.

And if all else fails it's still a tiny problem in the end even with the potential longevity of Slayers who simply don't fight (IE decades if not centuries without a slayer). After all the Cruciamentum is proof to the Watcher's specialty in killing Slayers.
 
If they are getting closer to Faith, isn't it important we do our best to try and meet her now, when there's still a chance for no Watcher bullshit?
 
Krain said:
If they are getting closer to Faith, isn't it important we do our best to try and meet her now, when there's still a chance for no Watcher bullshit?
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We have a couple of months.

That said for all the good they do, as a Slayer the watchers are almost sure to get you killed/kill you
 
Faith... Let's just say that she has problems, mostly to do with being from (IIRC) an impoverished black background in the United States.
 
Hazard said:
Faith... Let's just say that she has problems, mostly to do with being from (IIRC) an impoverished black background in the United States.
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Impoverished, yes. Working class is Word of The Actress who played her.

But what does black have to do with it?

Are we thinking of the same person?



This person?

Because the closest she gets to black is that her actress is Half Albanian. :p
 
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