Marvel - were ULTIMATUM the real heroes?

In retrospect were ULTIMATUM the real heroes of Marvel?

  • Stamp out the outmoded concept of patriotism

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Let's keep our evil but necessary countries

    Votes: 3 37.5%

  • Total voters
    8

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Comics - Is the American government of Marvel Comics worth saving?
We all know Marvel America is a terrible nation. . .

America had nothing on Canada. Canada had the weapon X program, Mass killings etc. Really, Canada did a lot of Fu**** up stuff in the Marvel Universe.
Marvel Canada has committed no crimes. Any claims otherwise are merely attempts to undermine the great nation's authority. Go back to bed, citizen.
Comics - Why do "heroes" tolerate Marvel Canada?
. . . but even Marvel Canada is a cesspool of genocidal hatred :o
The Marvel Universe, where anti-government extremists are less scary than the government.
Well....if the government is really bad enough that the anti-government extremists are "right" about said government then they're not really extremists are they?
How legitimate are anti-government-extremists in Marvel?

Is the organization ULTIMATUM is ultimately right in Marvel?
Underground Liberated Totally Integrated Mobile Army To Unite Mankind believes in eradicating the concept of countries and nationalism by force.
While a moronic ideological cause in reality when considering how evil on average Marvel nations are I can't help thinking ULTIMATUM has a point.
Knocking over the Marvel countries altogether is completely justified.
No more shenanigans of Marvel's universally terrible nation states and outright wreck their systems outright!
Flag Smasher certainly is the hero Marvel deserves?
 
Any enemy to Canada is an enemy to mankind itself. These radicals must be eliminated to guarantee the continued safety of people everywhere.
 
Militaires Sans Frontieres (and later Diamond Dogs and Outer Haven) has the same ideology as its founding basis, but its members have to do mercenary work in order to capsulate a capital and support from several IOs.

If ULTIMATUM does not do this, they are bound to fail.
 
Any enemy to Canada is an enemy to mankind itself. These radicals must be eliminated to guarantee the continued safety of people everywhere.

Behold your Canadian fortress/skyscraper/headquarters thing!

Militaires Sans Frontieres (and later Diamond Dogs and Outer Haven) has the same ideology as its founding basis, but its members have to do mercenary work in order to capsulate a capital and support from several IOs.

If ULTIMATUM does not do this, they are bound to fail.
ULTIMATUM is closer to Armstrong than Militaires Sans Frontieres ideologically.

Senator Armstrong's revolution of perpetual anarchy is actually somewhat reasonable, proportionate, and sane within the Marvel setting.
 
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