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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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eaglejarl said:
The only genjutsu any of you are aware of that breaks the "one target only" rule is Truth Lost in the Fog, which she *really* doesn't want to use.
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Velorien said:
At that moment, something finally clicked. Why would the missing-nin fight inside the tight confines of the cave instead of scattering in every direction, to escape and regroup later? How long had there even been trees outside the entrance? Most conspicuously, why would Captain Zabuza, who could have taken them out in a fraction of a second, before they even knew he was there, bother doing it like a ritual execution?

"Dispel!"
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"You did better than last time," Inoue-sensei told them with a grin. "But you've got to be quicker. Look for environmental inconsistencies before you worry about behavioural ones. As it is, you and I have a long day ahead of us."

"That was totally unfair!" Noburi burst out. "How were we meant to pay attention to the environment when you made the scenario so extreme?"​
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I'm hoping she didn't use TLitF to teach Genin Dispel...
 
faflec said:
@Velorien @eaglejarl @Jackercracks Can we get chakra water from Noburi's barrel and drink it while running at chakra-enhanced speeds?
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Nope, sorry.

HyperCatnip said:
Activate (with delay) exploding tags and PMYF away.
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Note that max delay on the tags you have is 5s.

Orisha91 said:
There's something I'd like people to consider when taling about the running plans.
I think most like the idea of running with chakra boosts in the smaller forms while henged.

But why not take advantage the team members with higher levels of henge while we do it?

I'm thinking of having Inoue and maybe Kagome in the back speed shoving those with the 2nd highest henge levels forward who will finally push Akane and keiko faster.

The two jonin would then decrease the mass in henge and speed up to catch up to the genin.

Hopefully this allows keiko and Akane to get more use out of their small henge level and tiny mass change.

Inoue and Kagome can also increase their mass on the initial push to give some oomph on the speed shoves they give the Noburi and Hazou.

Kagome---> Noburi---->Keiko
Inoue--->Hazou---->Akane

And if things get really too close, maybe the genin can henge into Kunai or something and have themselves get chucked forwards by mass increased Kagome and Inoue for a larger boost.

Stupid idea?
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Not stupid but it sounds impractical to me. You could have the genin henge into smaller / lighter forms and ride piggyback, though. It would give the people carrying them a small malus, though. (Speaking of, I really like the word "malus". Thank you all for teaching it to me.)

faflec said:
@OliWhali You ok?
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I think he's ticked because people keep misspelling his name. Mnemonic: "OliWhail" is spelled like "Wail" (cry out) with an 'h'.

MadScientist said:
Does she not want to use it, or just not want to activate the amnesia function?

Could she put multiple people into truth lost in the fog to get them out of the fight and then just not wipe their memories?
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That...is a good point, and I think is consistent with what's been said. Okay, I will really need to check this with @Velorien, but for this update yes, she can use it and not have to pay the price as long as she doesn't use the memory wipe function. Note that she will take maluses (mali?) for every extra person she puts in it, and if any of them break the illusion then they are all released.

Cariyaga said:
To be fair, that was before they'd figured out genjutsu rules entirely.
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This. But I'll go with it for this update. Again, it may not work like this in future.
 
eaglejarl said:
So far there's no combination of jutsu available to you that allow you to safely combine water and lightning. Syrup Trap isn't conductive and Noburi's whip will conduct electricity but he'll be zapped as well.
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Can we cover Noburi's hand (whatever part of him connects to Water Whip) with Syrup Trap and then use Water Whip + zappy?

eaglejarl said:
The wall is really intended to block kunai; it blows up.
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Meep. No more Wind Wall + explosive kunai combo for us :(

eaglejarl said:
That...is a good point, and I think is consistent with what's been said. Okay, I will really need to check this with @Velorien, but for this update yes, she can use it and not have to pay the price as long as she doesn't use the memory wipe function. Note that she will take maluses (mali?) for every extra person she puts in it, and if any of them break the illusion then they are all released.
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Oh cool.

HyperCatnip said:
@faflec, would you please update the relevant part of the plan?
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I did that, I think. If I haven't ping me again.

Edits made. Still trying to figure out how to write Inoue-sensei in. Added her.
Two plans here. One focuses on fighting and the other on running.

[X] Action Plan: The Oldest and Noblest of Pirate Traditions
I submit here and now, that is what we all must do: We must fight...to run away.

Goals:
  1. Survive.
  2. Engage and defeat the Leaf ninja.
  3. Run away (hopefully).
  4. (Contingency) Engage and defeat the Hot Springs ninja.
Methods:
  1. Engage and defeat the Leaf ninja.
    1. Immediately change our direction to South-Southwest.
      1. Prepare explosive-tagged kunai, implosion-seal kunai, shaped charges, genjutsu, taijutsu, Water Whip...
        1. Stupid boxes, with an explosive tag for remote detonation, are possible. BE VERY CAREFUL
    2. Locate and briefly ready an ambush position.
      1. If viable, hide behind a thicker outcropping of trees, wait for them to pass, and gank them from behind.
      2. If viable, tree-walk and ambush them from above.
      3. If viable, summon clones that can pretend to be "us". Let them fight and we ambush from behind/above/wherever.
        1. Be fucking careful about this.
      4. If viable, Syrup Trap, Suiton/Raiton combo, or Barrier Method Formation can be used. Clones can do this, too.
    3. Engage and defeat the enemy.
      1. Keiko/Kagome/Inoue start the ambush with the explosive/implosive kunai. This should suffice to kill or wound much of the Leaf-nin. At the least it'll distract them and force them to scatter.
        1. Make sure we time it so the bombs detonate where they'll be, not where they are. If they dodge we should have kunaibombs there when they arrive at their new location.
        2. If viable Inoue can target their fastest runner(s) with genjutsu to ensure they lose the roll against explosives.
          1. Can she hit multiple people with TLitF and keep them *out of it* without paying the price? Will multiple people dilute effectiveness or no? Things to ask her to consider.
        3. If viable Inoue can use Wind Wall to slow enemy Tactical Movement.
      2. Akane, Kagome, Inoue engage.
        1. Code Black.
        2. Palm charges.
        3. Don't blow up your clothes, Kagome. We need you for the next fight.
        4. Genjutsu ONLY if necessary. Target the leader/head enemy, obvious reasons.
          1. Can she hit multiple people with TLitF and keep them *out of it* without paying the price? Will multiple people dilute effectiveness or no? Things to ask her to consider.
        5. Clones are a good idea. Combat, Henge and Kawarimi allies to safety. Use jutsu to kill or trap enemies.
        6. Suicide boxes ONLY if safe to use. NOT when allies are anywhere nearby, and NOT when we're winning quickly.
        7. Wind Wall to slow enemies & their weapons, also to boost us.
      3. Noburi and Keiko continue to fight at range with Water Whip and kunai, respectfully.
        1. Explosive kunai are to be used ONLY when our allies are not nearby.
        2. Target enemies Inoue has genjutsu'd, if applicable.
        3. Clones are a good idea. Combat, Henge and Kawarimi allies to safety. Use jutsu to kill or trap enemies.
      4. Hazou protects Noburi & Keiko.
        1. Stay close, engage CQC against attacking enemies.
        2. MEW to split enemies from each other, or to crash enemies into trees. Or both. Both is nice.
    4. We DO NOT want to kill them all.
      1. We want to ensure that they can no longer chase us.
      2. Make sure their healthy men << their seriously injured men.
      3. They're Leaf-nin, the "Will of Fire" is nice and exploitable.
      4. If they do chase, yes we kill them all.
  2. Run away.
    1. Move West-Northwest.
    2. Get chakra back from Noburi's barrel while running.
    3. Chakra boost to hell.
    4. PMYF to hell.
    5. If they're still faster, we fight.
  3. Engage and defeat the Hot Springs ninja.
    1. The same battle plan as above, with notes.
      1. You can blow up your clothes now, Kagome.
      2. Genjutsu can have more liberal use now. If Inoue wants to 24/7 genjutsu she should tell us and stay with Hazou (protection).
        1. TLitF multiple enemies if possible without too many malus die/price to pay.
      3. Lots and lots of clones. If they can use explosive tags turn them into kamikazes.
      4. SUICIDE BOXES. USE THEM ALL.
Contingencies:
  • Disguises: Face-concealing masks, Henge over all this. All the time.
    • Henges also work to ignore malus die since they make us "un-injured" until broken. Useful for Noburi especially since he's heavily injured but a ranged fighter.
  • Chakra: CHAKRA BOOST EVERYTHING
    • EVERRRRRYTHINNNNGGGG
    • We want to win combat hard and fast, and run away hard and fast. Mari>Kagome>Keiko>Akane>Hazou, if Noburi has limited chakra to give.
  • Running away:
    • Use rivers to hide trail, treewalk (and treejump) to make the trail harder to notice. All are secondary considerations to speed, unless both squads are dead.
    • PMYF to hell.
  • PMYF use:
    • Optimal distance for swapping with a PMYF sub target of the same mass as us is probably like 250m in ~7 seconds, which a normal ninja traverses in about 18 seconds. We gain 11 seconds of extra time, not counting any more from explosions and changing course, but also not counting the non-ideal travel time (we probably go more like 175-200m) or deceleration to save our necks near the end of the flight.
    • For subbing with a 100kg target, the optimal distance is nearer to 460m, so actual travel is probably more like 350, so gain more like 15 seconds. These are even if they know exactly where we land.
  • FUBAR:
    • If things look bleak, try to get Keiko reverse-summoned to safety (she will probably not take this suggestion well)
[X] Action Plan: Bravely Bold Sir Robin
If at any point we choose to fight we commit to having to fight both a Leaf patrol and our very pissed off Hot Springs fanboysstalkerspursuers. We need to bug out. Faster, this time.

Goals:
  1. Survive.
  2. Run away.
  3. Slow the enemy down.
  4. Disappear.
Methods:
  1. Run away.
    1. We're using chakra boost. 100%.
      1. We're counting on our larger chakra capacity to outlast these scrubs.
    2. Canteens out, we drink up from Noburi after we use like 5% chakra or something. We want no less than 95% chakra at any time, except Noburi who has more chakra than unbroken bones.
      1. We do not stop. We are running and drinking at the same time.
      2. If we have to, just pee ourselves. Hazou has experience :p
    3. The primary goal is speed. We want to widen the gap to the point where we can go into full stealth mode and roll natural 20s100s without them being able to catch up.
    4. We angle ourselves West-Northwest so that the Leaf/Hot Springs ninja meet each other before us. With any luck they'll fight and we can make our escape.
    5. Wind Wall to boost our Tactical Movement.
  2. Slow the enemy down.
    1. Fake our deaths.
      1. Drop the bodies in one spot. Put exploding tags on and around them.
      2. Activate (with delay) exploding tags and PMYF away.
      3. Resulting explosion will scatter substitution targets and bodies, obscuring the fact that we escaped and making it look like we committed mass suicide.
      4. If we succeed we go straight to "Disappear" and stealth mode it.
      5. If this fails, then we do the other stally tactics below.
    2. Blow up the trees so they fall on each other, and eventually on the enemy. They already know we're here.
    3. Earth and Water Clones to lead enemies down the wrong place.
      1. If viable, send these clones with explosives to blow up elsewhere. Make it seem as though we're fighting in that place, not where we actually are.
    4. Use Pandaa to create an implosion seal distraction.
      1. Send him back, have him detonate implosion seal/large explosive seals, and desummon himself before he would get hurt by it.
      2. Secondary concern: Don't get seen.
      3. If clones can do this better, send them instead of Pandaa.
    5. Set up 0.1-ninjasecond MEW bunkers so the enemy has to check if we're 'in' them.
      1. (Optional) Make a MEW and attach Five-Seal Barrier to it. The barrier seals don't have to be aligned and we don't have to actually make the giant slab of rock perfect. We want them to think it's perfect, and to waste time finding the seals.
  3. Disappear.
    1. Once we've made enough distance we go full stealth mode and follow the closest river system, get to Iron. More clones in various directions, but only at the start: Once we start moving in stealth, we want to not do anything that gives our position away.
    2. Ask Inoue-sensei if this is the best plan for when we break immediate enemy tracking: should we sneak the whole way or sneak for a bit and then run?
Contingencies:
  • Disguises: Face-concealing masks, Henge over all this. All the time.
    • Henges also work to ignore malus die since they make us "un-injured" until broken. Useful for Noburi especially since he's heavily injured but a ranged fighter.
  • Chakra: CHAKRA BOOST EVERYTHING
    • EVERRRRRYTHINNNNGGGG
    • We want to win combat hard and fast, and run away hard and fast. Mari>Kagome>Keiko>Akane>Hazou, if Noburi has limited chakra to give.
  • Running away:
    • Use rivers to hide trail, treewalk (and treejump) to make the trail harder to notice. All are secondary considerations to speed, unless both squads are dead.
    • PMYF to hell.
  • Fighting:
    • See The Oldest and Noblest of Pirate Traditions for how we're fighting.
    • Yes, if we end up fighting it'll probably be us vs. Leaf & Hot Springs.
      • The same plan applies, though.
      • Actually, if they join up wouldn't the slower Leaf patrol-nin kill their ability to engage on us?
  • PMYF use:
    • Optimal distance for swapping with a PMYF sub target of the same mass as us is probably like 250m in ~7 seconds, which a normal ninja traverses in about 18 seconds. We gain 11 seconds of extra time, not counting any more from explosions and changing course, but also not counting the non-ideal travel time (we probably go more like 175-200m) or deceleration to save our necks near the end of the flight.
    • For subbing with a 100kg target, the optimal distance is nearer to 460m, so actual travel is probably more like 350, so gain more like 15 seconds. These are even if they know exactly where we land.
  • FUBAR:
    • If things look bleak, try to get Keiko reverse-summoned to safety (she will probably not take this suggestion well)
Seriously.

Start talking.
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If anyone can henge small enough to be carried, have them do so, then send that many clones as far as possible in another direction from the group. Make it look like we split up.

Assumes they're paying attention to tracks and not just listening for where we are.
 
eaglejarl said:
I think he's ticked because people keep misspelling his name. Mnemonic: "OliWhail" is spelled like "Wail" (cry out) with an 'h'.
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OliWhail said:
I'm only playing at being mad, just to be 100% clear. Be back in a bit
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Oh, so your name is @OliWail, ok. :p

Real talk though, we should probably group up and decide if we're running or fighting. I am partial to fighting over running but won't hate running as long as the strategy accounts for having to fight possibly later.
 
Okay, NOW I've reset everyone's chakra. Everyone is full at this point, except for Noburi. He tanked everyone else up and has been recharging himself as you run, but hasn't managed to get back to full yet.

Also, note that the +1 XP and the Thousand Yard Stare point have been added.

faflec said:
[serious] Wait, what about clones? Can they do this?
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I...think we've said that clones can do whatever jutsu you can as long as you create them with extra chakra sufficient to pay for it. Again, this might be incorrect and therefore not happen this way in future.

One thing that clones cannot do, however, is genjutsu. They have no mind.
 
faflec said:
No chakra refill while running and burning chakra means they'll catch up to us and kill us while we're exhausted of chakra. I do not want to take the risk of us escaping (because we can't). We need to fight. NOW.

[-] Bravely Bold Sir Robin
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I mean, we could use one of the three-ish clever ways to convince them we've killed ourselves we've come up with instead of just straight up running.
 
faflec said:
I did that, I think. If I haven't ping me again.
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I think it's better to revise tha "fake our deaths" part like this:

Fake our deaths.
  1. Drop the bodies in one spot. Put exploding tags on and around them.
  2. Summon Pandaa.
  3. PMYF away.
  4. Have Pandaa activate the explosives (with 5 s delay, so that Pandaa is unharmed) and despawn.
  5. Resulting explosion will scatter substitution targets and bodies, obscuring the fact that we escaped and making it look like we committed mass suicide.
  6. If we succeed we go straight to "Disappear" and stealth mode it.
  7. If this fails, then we do the other stally tactics below.
 
Cariyaga said:
I mean, we could use one of the three-ish clever ways to convince them we've killed ourselves we've come up with instead of just straight up running.
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Setting up explosive traps, or faking our deaths, or letting Hot Springs and Leaf meet...these things take time. Time we don't have, and we are already losing the running scenario (according to @eaglejarl? we'd already lose even with chakra boost). If we rely only on the three 'traps' we have to escape, we'll end up in a fight that is disadvantageous to us more often than not. We'll lose.
 
faflec said:
Setting up explosive traps, or faking our deaths, or letting Hot Springs and Leaf meet...these things take time. Time we don't have, and we are already losing the running scenario (according to @eaglejarl? we'd already lose even with chakra boost). If we rely only on the three 'traps' we have to escape, we'll end up in a fight that is disadvantageous to us more often than not. We'll lose.
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I feel that faking our deaths is quick and has a very good chance of working. If we pull it off, we'll escape unscathed.

If we try fighting, we will definitely not escape unscathed. We are looking at nearly guaranteed TPK, chakra reserves or not.

I maintain that we should fake our deaths and run, because if we don't run we are all dead anyway.
 
OliWhail said:
If we run out of chakra or have thrown our last stupid box and they are not deterred yet, move to a combat plan
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Please for the love of god edit this. Write something like "If our plans don't seem to be working, move to a combat plan". If we run out out of chakra and then fight we are going to die.

OliWhail said:
Mari, Hazou, Noburi henge into the Leaf team we killed, the others set the dead bodies as sub targets; pretend to be ready to fight when the actual leaf team shows up, act relieved to see them, start 'explaining', then explosions/stupid box go off and sub with the bodes just as the HS teams shows up
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Letting the other, pissed off, group of enemies show up before we've even dealt with the others is TPK. I understand you want them to fight each other but the risks of failure (2 groups of enemies fighting us, effectively instant TPK) far outweigh the benefits (Leaf patrol fights Hot Springs, we try to escape?); especially when you realize that we aren't going to win a bluff. A Leaf patrol that shows up after being missing for months, in the opposite side of Fire makes no damn sense, and that's going to be huge malus die for Mari's Deception skill.
 
Fuck it.

[X] Bravely Bold Sir Robin

I don't want to run but if we do a running plan, run out of chakra, and are then forced to fight, we 3000% die.
 
I'm thinking we should take eaglejarl 's suggestion of just using the Jounin to carry everyone else and take a small malus since it seems like they'll still be faster than the genin anyway.

Can the henged genin position themselves to kind of sit backwards on the jounin's shoulders? They'd be facing the enemy in pursuit and would have their hands free to do jutsu.

Maybe wa mild form of chakra adhesion would help steady them?

It might up our chances if we can toss traps, clones and distractions from the back.
 
Orisha91 said:
I'm thinking we should take eaglejarl 's suggestion of just using the Jounin to carry everyone else and take a small malus since it seems like they'll still be faster than the genin anyway.

Can the henged genin position themselves to kind of sit backwards on the jounin's shoulders? They'd be facing the enemy in pursuit and would have their hands free to do jutsu.

Maybe wa mild form of chakra adhesion would help steady them?

It might up our chances if we can toss traps, clones and distractions from the back.
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I'll add it into my running plan, with a "If viable" to make sure we don't do it if it turns out to be a bad idea.

Edit: Done.
Two plans here. One focuses on fighting and the other on running.

[X] Action Plan: The Oldest and Noblest of Pirate Traditions
I submit here and now, that is what we all must do: We must fight...to run away.

Goals:
  1. Survive.
  2. Engage and defeat the Leaf ninja.
  3. Run away (hopefully).
  4. (Contingency) Engage and defeat the Hot Springs ninja.
Methods:
  1. Engage and defeat the Leaf ninja.
    1. Immediately change our direction to South-Southwest.
      1. Prepare explosive-tagged kunai, implosion-seal kunai, shaped charges, genjutsu, taijutsu, Water Whip...
        1. Stupid boxes, with an explosive tag for remote detonation, are possible. BE VERY CAREFUL
    2. Locate and briefly ready an ambush position.
      1. If viable, hide behind a thicker outcropping of trees, wait for them to pass, and gank them from behind.
      2. If viable, tree-walk and ambush them from above.
      3. If viable, summon clones that can pretend to be "us". Let them fight and we ambush from behind/above/wherever.
        1. Be fucking careful about this.
      4. If viable, Syrup Trap, Suiton/Raiton combo, or Barrier Method Formation can be used. Clones can do this, too.
    3. Engage and defeat the enemy.
      1. Keiko/Kagome/Inoue start the ambush with the explosive/implosive kunai. This should suffice to kill or wound much of the Leaf-nin. At the least it'll distract them and force them to scatter.
        1. Make sure we time it so the bombs detonate where they'll be, not where they are. If they dodge we should have kunaibombs there when they arrive at their new location.
        2. If viable Inoue can target their fastest runner(s) with genjutsu to ensure they lose the roll against explosives.
          1. Can she hit multiple people with TLitF and keep them *out of it* without paying the price? Will multiple people dilute effectiveness or no? Things to ask her to consider.
        3. If viable Inoue can use Wind Wall to slow enemy Tactical Movement.
      2. Akane, Kagome, Inoue engage.
        1. Code Black.
        2. Palm charges.
        3. Don't blow up your clothes, Kagome. We need you for the next fight.
        4. Genjutsu ONLY if necessary. Target the leader/head enemy, obvious reasons.
          1. Can she hit multiple people with TLitF and keep them *out of it* without paying the price? Will multiple people dilute effectiveness or no? Things to ask her to consider.
        5. Clones are a good idea. Combat, Henge and Kawarimi allies to safety. Use jutsu to kill or trap enemies.
        6. Suicide boxes ONLY if safe to use. NOT when allies are anywhere nearby, and NOT when we're winning quickly.
        7. Wind Wall to slow enemies & their weapons, also to boost us.
      3. Noburi and Keiko continue to fight at range with Water Whip and kunai, respectfully.
        1. Explosive kunai are to be used ONLY when our allies are not nearby.
        2. Target enemies Inoue has genjutsu'd, if applicable.
        3. Clones are a good idea. Combat, Henge and Kawarimi allies to safety. Use jutsu to kill or trap enemies.
      4. Hazou protects Noburi & Keiko.
        1. Stay close, engage CQC against attacking enemies.
        2. MEW to split enemies from each other, or to crash enemies into trees. Or both. Both is nice.
    4. We DO NOT want to kill them all.
      1. We want to ensure that they can no longer chase us.
      2. Make sure their healthy men << their seriously injured men.
      3. They're Leaf-nin, the "Will of Fire" is nice and exploitable.
      4. If they do chase, yes we kill them all.
  2. Run away.
    1. Move West-Northwest.
    2. Get chakra back from Noburi's barrel while running.
    3. Chakra boost to hell.
    4. PMYF to hell.
    5. If they're still faster, we fight.
  3. Engage and defeat the Hot Springs ninja.
    1. The same battle plan as above, with notes.
      1. You can blow up your clothes now, Kagome.
      2. Genjutsu can have more liberal use now. If Inoue wants to 24/7 genjutsu she should tell us and stay with Hazou (protection).
        1. TLitF multiple enemies if possible without too many malus die/price to pay.
      3. Lots and lots of clones. If they can use explosive tags turn them into kamikazes.
      4. SUICIDE BOXES. USE THEM ALL.
Contingencies:
  • Disguises: Face-concealing masks, Henge over all this. All the time.
    • Henges also work to ignore malus die since they make us "un-injured" until broken. Useful for Noburi especially since he's heavily injured but a ranged fighter.
  • Chakra: CHAKRA BOOST EVERYTHING
    • EVERRRRRYTHINNNNGGGG
    • We want to win combat hard and fast, and run away hard and fast. Mari>Kagome>Keiko>Akane>Hazou, if Noburi has limited chakra to give.
  • Running away:
    • Use rivers to hide trail, treewalk (and treejump) to make the trail harder to notice. All are secondary considerations to speed, unless both squads are dead.
    • PMYF to hell.
  • PMYF use:
    • Optimal distance for swapping with a PMYF sub target of the same mass as us is probably like 250m in ~7 seconds, which a normal ninja traverses in about 18 seconds. We gain 11 seconds of extra time, not counting any more from explosions and changing course, but also not counting the non-ideal travel time (we probably go more like 175-200m) or deceleration to save our necks near the end of the flight.
    • For subbing with a 100kg target, the optimal distance is nearer to 460m, so actual travel is probably more like 350, so gain more like 15 seconds. These are even if they know exactly where we land.
  • FUBAR:
    • If things look bleak, try to get Keiko reverse-summoned to safety (she will probably not take this suggestion well)
[X] Action Plan: Bravely Bold Sir Robin
If at any point we choose to fight we commit to having to fight both a Leaf patrol and our very pissed off Hot Springs fanboysstalkerspursuers. We need to bug out. Faster, this time.

Goals:
  1. Survive.
  2. Run away.
  3. Slow the enemy down.
  4. Disappear.
Methods:
  1. Run away.
    1. We're using chakra boost. 100%.
      1. We're counting on our larger chakra capacity to outlast these scrubs.
    2. Canteens out, we drink up from Noburi after we use like 5% chakra or something. We want no less than 95% chakra at any time, except Noburi who has more chakra than unbroken bones.
      1. We do not stop. We are running and drinking at the same time.
      2. If we have to, just pee ourselves. Hazou has experience :p
    3. The primary goal is speed. We want to widen the gap to the point where we can go into full stealth mode and roll natural 20s100s without them being able to catch up.
    4. We angle ourselves West-Northwest so that the Leaf/Hot Springs ninja meet each other before us. With any luck they'll fight and we can make our escape.
    5. Wind Wall to boost our Tactical Movement.
    6. If viable, have the Jonin carry us slow-ass Genin, who are Henge'd into easy-carry form.
      1. If more viable, have Inoue-sensei's clones do it.
      2. Can the henged genin position themselves to kind of sit backwards on the jounin's shoulders? They'd be facing the enemy in pursuit and would have their hands free to do jutsu.
      3. Maybe a mild form of chakra adhesion would help steady them?
      4. It might up our chances if we can toss traps, clones and distractions from the back.
  2. Slow the enemy down.
    1. Fake our deaths.
      1. Drop the bodies in one spot. Put exploding tags on and around them.
      2. Summon Pandaa.
      3. PMYF away.
      4. Have Pandaa activate the explosives (with 5 s delay, so that Pandaa is unharmed) and despawn.
      5. Resulting explosion will scatter substitution targets and bodies, obscuring the fact that we escaped and making it look like we committed mass suicide.
      6. If we succeed we go straight to "Disappear" and stealth mode it.
      1. If this fails, then we do the other stally tactics below.
    2. Blow up the trees so they fall on each other, and eventually on the enemy. They already know we're here.
    3. Earth and Water Clones to lead enemies down the wrong place.
      1. If viable, send these clones with explosives to blow up elsewhere. Make it seem as though we're fighting in that place, not where we actually are.
    4. Use Pandaa to create an implosion seal distraction.
      1. Send him back, have him detonate implosion seal/large explosive seals, and desummon himself before he would get hurt by it.
      2. Secondary concern: Don't get seen.
      3. If clones can do this better, send them instead of Pandaa.
    5. Set up 0.1-ninjasecond MEW bunkers so the enemy has to check if we're 'in' them.
      1. (Optional) Make a MEW and attach Five-Seal Barrier to it. The barrier seals don't have to be aligned and we don't have to actually make the giant slab of rock perfect. We want them to think it's perfect, and to waste time finding the seals.
  3. Disappear.
    1. Once we've made enough distance we go full stealth mode and follow the closest river system, get to Iron. More clones in various directions, but only at the start: Once we start moving in stealth, we want to not do anything that gives our position away.
    2. Ask Inoue-sensei if this is the best plan for when we break immediate enemy tracking: should we sneak the whole way or sneak for a bit and then run?
Contingencies:
  • Disguises: Face-concealing masks, Henge over all this. All the time.
    • Henges also work to ignore malus die since they make us "un-injured" until broken. Useful for Noburi especially since he's heavily injured but a ranged fighter.
  • Chakra: CHAKRA BOOST EVERYTHING
    • EVERRRRRYTHINNNNGGGG
    • We want to win combat hard and fast, and run away hard and fast. Mari>Kagome>Keiko>Akane>Hazou, if Noburi has limited chakra to give.
  • Running away:
    • Use rivers to hide trail, treewalk (and treejump) to make the trail harder to notice. All are secondary considerations to speed, unless both squads are dead.
    • PMYF to hell.
  • Fighting:
    • See The Oldest and Noblest of Pirate Traditions for how we're fighting.
    • Yes, if we end up fighting it'll probably be us vs. Leaf & Hot Springs.
      • The same plan applies, though.
      • Actually, if they join up wouldn't the slower Leaf patrol-nin kill their ability to engage on us?
  • PMYF use:
    • Optimal distance for swapping with a PMYF sub target of the same mass as us is probably like 250m in ~7 seconds, which a normal ninja traverses in about 18 seconds. We gain 11 seconds of extra time, not counting any more from explosions and changing course, but also not counting the non-ideal travel time (we probably go more like 175-200m) or deceleration to save our necks near the end of the flight.
    • For subbing with a 100kg target, the optimal distance is nearer to 460m, so actual travel is probably more like 350, so gain more like 15 seconds. These are even if they know exactly where we land.
  • FUBAR:
    • If things look bleak, try to get Keiko reverse-summoned to safety (she will probably not take this suggestion well)
Seriously.

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Man, I have no clue what plan to vote for.

e: Oh, we should have Akane and Hazou overcharge on Nobby's water before the fight. Not good for long term health, but, ah, that's not a concern here.
 
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Cariyaga said:
Man, I have no clue what plan to vote for.

e: Oh, we should have Akane and Hazou overcharge on Nobby's water before the fight. Not good for long term health, but, ah, that's not a concern here.
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Vote for The Oldest and Noblest of Pirate Traditions if you want to fight. Vote for Bravely Bold Sir Robin if you want to run. Vote for @OilWhale's plan if you want to run ourselves out of chakra and then fight (yes, it's not entirely accurate but I'm a little ticked and it's kinda true too). He's editing it. I will wait.

Can you clarify what overcharging does exactly?
 
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