It doesn't actually have to be SSA since it's reduced to chūnin difficulty with notes. As long as it's full prep, we are good to go!
Can you give me words to put into my plan? Or something word-adjacent (mobile formatting is bad)?

e.g., Prime does RBs with SSA, SC does 4FSoP with SSA, and SC does Dampener and Substitution with no SSA
 
[X][OpSec] Black Paper
  • MARS and RRB should only ever be inscribed on black paper.
  • Chunin and above Goketsu have access to those seals.
@FaintlySorcerous Perhaps this opsec vote could change that line in your plan to "Hazo has reconsidered MARS access".

Can you give me words to put into my plan? Or something word-adjacent (mobile formatting is bad)?

e.g., Prime does RBs with SSA, SC does 4FSoP with SSA, and SC does Dampener and Substitution with no SSA
Be careful doing 4FSoP without SSA prep. It has jonin level calligraphy that isn't reduced by the notes.
 
Can you give me words to put into my plan? Or something word-adjacent (mobile formatting is bad)?

e.g., Prime does RBs with SSA, SC does 4FSoP with SSA, and SC does Dampener and Substitution with no SSA
The only possible thing missing there is CATEARS no SSA with half+prep. Ideally catears would be a SSA track seal, but we know we can safely make progress like this
 
[X][OpSec] Black Paper
  • MARS and RRB should only ever be inscribed on black paper.
  • Chunin and above Goketsu have access to those seals.
I don't think I agree with adding RRB here: I recall a ruling that black paper seals are somewhat harder to make than regular seals (I think the infusion check in particular is harder), and something so close to our limits sounds like a nonzero risk. Moreover, RRB aren't conceptually novel, they're just Really Really Good versions of a more ordinary secret, while MARS is the thing we can't let anyone even learn exist lest they replicate it.

If it turns out that black paper RRB can actually be expected to be safe, then I don't have any complaints, but I'm leery about this as-is.
 
I don't think I agree with adding RRB here: I recall a ruling that black paper seals are somewhat harder to make than regular seals (I think the infusion check in particular is harder), and something so close to our limits sounds like a nonzero risk. Moreover, RRB aren't conceptually novel, they're just Really Really Good versions of a more ordinary secret, while MARS is the thing we can't let anyone even learn exist lest they replicate it.

If it turns out that black paper RRB can actually be expected to be safe, then I don't have any complaints, but I'm leery about this as-is.
They're harder to infuse, but if you make a few RRB first, you reduce the TN through mastery until you can't fail it even with black paper.

In short, safe so long as you make a few on white paper first (and then destroy them).
 
Can you give me words to put into my plan? Or something word-adjacent (mobile formatting is bad)?

e.g., Prime does RBs with SSA, SC does 4FSoP with SSA, and SC does Dampener and Substitution with no SSA
Full prep for first cycle, Hazō's intuition after:
Prime does RRBs with SSA
SC does 4FSoP with SSA
Hazō's intuition on prep:
SC does Dampener seal
SC does Substitution seals
 
That doesn't include any of Kagome's rift seals. That'll be a hard sell, considering the race for necromancy between us and Sasori (and Konan? 🤷‍♂️)
 
They're harder to infuse, but if you make a few RRB first, you reduce the TN through mastery until you can't fail it even with black paper.

In short, safe so long as you make a few on white paper first (and then destroy them).
Fair enough, though I'd say this is a nontrivial endeavor when you have to infuse 50 seals to reduce the TN by 1, so we'd most definitely have to vote this in to gain that much mastery. I'm, ah, not certain that many would be safe without FP expenditure even on normal paper, but we'd run into that either way, if we want to make more than a couple of them.
 
Summons can go any distance from their summoner- as long as Hazo spends <36 hours out of the village, then with Noburis refills Kagome's spider summons could support Hazo from a distance.

Also, better to have the options and not need them than to not have them at all. If Kagome has CR 30 he can summon a single jonin spider in a pinch and keep fighting.
IIRC the maintenance costs for keeping summons around add up fast, but I suppose it could be worthwhile under some circumstances.

There are tiny Arachnids that can shapechange. Spiders have poor long distance endurance, but a tiny companion could cling to a jogging ninja to mitigate that.
Ooh, I had forgotten about those. If there are jounin-level combat mites that would be awesome.

I included it from the base plan I modified because it seemed nice and want Hazo + Asuma to be closer personally. On retrospect I see that it's pretty dubious and am fine omitting that line.
I think the base plan you modified had that line for Harumitsu lmao

- I think the Haramitsu stuff isn't an efficient use of narrative time. He's a barely genin sealmaster, we could reinvent his cooling seal in a single afternoon.
It doesn't get us much, materially, but I think it would be fun to read.

Why Noburi specifically? He seems among the most likely of uplift to be disturbed by slaughtering bandits.
Well, we need an escort who we can trust to be discreet, and Kei is busy, so it's him or Mari. Maybe ANBU. I'd prefer not to bring Yuno.
 
Fair enough, though I'd say this is a nontrivial endeavor when you have to infuse 50 seals to reduce the TN by 1, so we'd most definitely have to vote this in to gain that much mastery. I'm, ah, not certain that many would be safe without FP expenditure even on normal paper, but we'd run into that either way, if we want to make more than a couple of them.
The last time I asked about this, I was told that it's usually done by moving down the time ladder three steps to "10 minutes" and getting +8*3=24 bonus to the roll. Should mean we can't fail a TN 74 seal. Heck, just going down to several minutes should mean we're safe from even a -12 FD. Granted, this mean spending an SSA day on this, with several minutes being... five? You can make 144 in a regular sealing day.

...Yeah, that's going to take a while to bring down to non-SSA infusing levels.
 
The last time I asked about this, I was told that it's usually done by moving down the time ladder three steps to "10 minutes" and getting +8*3=24 bonus to the roll. Should mean we can't fail a TN 74 seal. Heck, just going down to several minutes should mean we're safe from even a -12 FD. Granted, this mean spending an SSA day on this, with several minutes being... five? You can make 144 in a regular sealing day.

...Yeah, that's going to take a while to bring down to non-SSA infusing levels.
Actually, I did some mental math. Might be wrong. Each day with SSA at two steps on the time ladder is 144 seals. Two cycles of that brings the TN down by 5 to 69. Spend an hour in the third cycle to make another 12, TN goes down to 68, making it safe when moving up only one step on the time ladder. Spend the remaining 11 hours making seals at 1/minute. 660 seals reduces the TN by 13, down to 55. With SSA, three steps up the time ladder makes our infusion roll 68, which is safe up to TN 56.

tl;Dr it only takes three SSA cycles to make TN 74 RRBs safe for non-SSA SCs.... So long as you're able to provide 950 blanks of the seal somehow 😅😅😅
 
Updated estate plan. Added clarification for water slide mechanism. Removed explicit use of ES to add gold filigree due to OPSEC concerns (gold filigree is still added).

Oh, are we doing these again?

[x] [Estate] Links
?/300 words
  • Kei/Mari/Gaku check all:
  • Design
    • Blend design elements from other clan compounds to represent the links to Leaf we have so far:
      • Uchiha, representing Hazou's ancestors.
      • Nara, representing Kei's marriage to Shikamaru.
      • Senju, representing Jiraiya's teammate (and Noburi's maybe-apprenticeship, but that's still early days).
      • Orochimaru's compound (he might feel slighted if we ref Tsunade but not him).
      • Sarutobi, representing Jiraiya's sensei.
      • Yamanaka, representing Hazou/Akane's relationship with Ino.
      • Aburame, representing our business relationship.
      • Hyuuga, representing our business relationship.
    • Architects are also encouraged to invent creative and modern design elements — we're a research clan, after all.
    • Hire Shikamaru-recommended KEI-architects from NFF.
  • Construction
    • Hazou creates quartz for highlights.
    • Add gold filigree to important buildings.
    • Mosaics where appropriate.
  • Details
    • Hide Koi pond for FOOM OPSEC training.
    • Bathhouses.
      • Add waterslides. Archimedes screw, or tapped raised water-tank, to provide water-flow.
    • Great Hall suitable for larger (1000+ person) events.
      • Decorate with huge dragon skeleton carving.
      • Relief carvings of the summon clans we're contracted with.
    • Cafeteria.
    • School/library.
    • Clinic/Mental Health Offices
    • Connect up the aqueduct we built, and the sewers in preparation for when they're ready for deployment.
    • Gardens/Greenhouses for Phytosealing Botanical Gardens to come (phytosealing intentions are kept secret — as far as the architects are concerned, it's a normal botanical gardens).
      • Statue of Hashirama with unique plants flourishing from his ninjutsu.
      • Add fruit trees to supplement food supply.
    • ES relief carvings that resemble 2D/3D sealing on surfaces to hide real seals in the noise.
    • Subterranean complex.
      • Civilian evac shelters.
    • Lampposts.
      • Statues holding daybright seals?
    • Monument to the Lost [Temporarily in Another Path].
    • Statues.
      • Jiraiya colossus.
      • Other Gouketsu VIPs (incl Gaku, hehe)
      • Hazou's Uchiha ancestors pre-Kurosawa split (ask Sasuke for help).
 
[X] Action Plan: Mending Fences
Word count: 289
  • Optimize w/Mari, Kei, Noburi.
  • Approach:
    • Hazo classic: earnest, honest, open.
    • Breathe before responding if frustrated.
    • Focus on listening, understanding.
  • Yuno
    • Include Noburi.
    • Hazo's sorry. Last time, he was off-balance/worried. He should've been honest/direct.
    • Hazo believes:
      • Murdering innocents is wrong.
      • Jashin exists/favours Hazo.
      • He must maintain Hidan's favour.
      • Uplift's Hazo's priority.
        • He wants Life/Birth to win, conclusively - not balance.
        • He'll use Jashin's favour for Uplift. If Jashin inhibits Uplift, he'll defeat Jashin.
    • Let that settle.
    • His worry came from fear - not of Yuno, but forher.
      • Death causes pain/suffering - even the guilty have families/dreams.
      • He worries Jashinism would crush Yuno's kindness/loving nature.
      • Hidan's alone - no family, children, real friends.
    • Hazo wants a world where children grow up happy and safe - Uplift.
    • What does Yuno want? What legacy does she want to leave?
  • Aggrieved clanmates:
    • Demanding they surrender their jutsu without discussion was a mistake. He's sorry.
    • Hazo withheld nothing useful in combat during the war.
      • A few diagnostic seals, a few they can't use, but nothing else.
      • He's reconsidering MARS access: it potentially leaked with Akane's death.
    • KEI adoption/justu will come up for every clan.
      • Goketsu's influential. What they decide, collectively, could set precedent.
      • What do they want? What issues do they see? Do they have ideas? You need something that works for everyone - them included.
      • Encourage them to ruminate: you don't need an answer immediately.
  • Offscreen:
    • SC-test MARS RBs: how many can you activate simultaneously?
    • Trade level-appropriate (Firework, Bubble?) seals for Harumitsu's Cold Seal.
    • Sealing
      • Use Hazoupilot's best judgement
        • Do not research everything if insufficient FP
      • Prime SSA: MS8 Latching Variant
      • SC SSA: Reusable Rocket Boots
        • Six uses.
        • Boost bonus, then additional uses until challenges stagnation.
      • SC: Dampener Seal, Substitution Seal
Can someone who knows what they're doing with sealing mechanics:
  1. Give me a blurb titled 'sealing' which is roughly 50 words which describes a procedure for researching (in priority order) MS8 latching variant, reusable Rocket Boots (six uses, boost bonus, then additional uses until stagnation's challenged), 4FSoP, the Dampener seal, and the Substitution seal?

    OR

  2. Tell me that doing that on the timescales of my plan (2-4 days, probably) is not possible and what I'll need to cut.
Tagging people who seem to know what they're doing: @ProperAttorney, @_The_Bomb, @Sir Stompy, @Shrooms

(if you were left off that list it's not because I don't think you know what you're doing, it's because those folks are active in the thread and have previously given me permission to tag them for stuff, also I'm juggling things at work)

Barring someone giving me good wording, I'm going to list my goals in the plan and let Pilot's intuition take care of it.
 
@Paperclipped @eaglejarl @Velorien

Does Hazou/Mari think we're still in danger of some of the adoptees defecting from the clan? The main catalyst was Hazou's perceived Jashinism, but Hazou made a huge amount of progress on that with his Uplift Speech and the rolls therein.
 
[Deadpan, not serious, I'm laughing at SV's mods]

Oh no. Tagging four people at once. What a major distruption of my enjoyment of the thread. Surely this is Infraction-worthy.
In fairness to them, someone reported it (so they weren't just going through the thread looking for it and it did bother someone), it was the smallest possible disciplinary action they could have taken (barring an informal PM asking me not to do it again), and there's an argument to be made against normalizing bulk pings, but I remain a little confused and upset by it.
 
  1. Give me a blurb titled 'sealing' which is roughly 50 words which describes a procedure for researching (in priority order) MS8 latching variant, reusable Rocket Boots (six uses, boost bonus, then additional uses until stagnation's challenged), 4FSoP, the Dampener seal, and the Substitution seal?

    OR

  2. Tell me that doing that on the timescales of my plan (2-4 days, probably) is not possible and what I'll need to cut.
Tagging people who seem to know what they're doing: @ProperAttorney, @_The_Bomb, @Sir Stompy, @Shrooms

(if you were left off that list it's not because I don't think you know what you're doing, it's because those folks are active in the thread and have previously given me permission to tag them for stuff, also I'm juggling things at work)

Barring someone giving me good wording, I'm going to list my goals in the plan and let Pilot's intuition take care of it.
Keep your plan to 2 days and just cut the Sealing section is my recommendation. We are laid up with SSA headaches until then
 
[X] Action Plan: Building Favor

If there's WC, can you add asking Noburi if he would consider taking a Hospital Sabatical to read Medical Notes, now that things have calmed down? Offscreen, of course. He needs a higher stat to open up the teketsus.
 
[X] Action Plan: Building Favor
Words: Many
Timeline: Bandit clearing + 1 research cycle
  • With Noburi, go to Asuma directly and take a couple bandit clearing missions.
    • Summon low-cost Dogs to help track
    • Talk with Nobs during the mission
      • Would you be willing to take a break from the Hospital to read both lootboxes? Do you have enough time to read one set of notes, with your current responsibilities? (If so: Mednin)
      • Can you begin researching the teketsu opening surgery?
        • Suggest experimenting on common Chakra beasts
        • Consult with Dr. Yakushi? Don't do so if risks compromising OPSEC on Rift to Orochimaru
  • Meet with disgruntled clanmates:
    • Optimize with Mari, Kei, and Noburi
      • Ask Asuma and Ino their opinion in general terms
    • Demanding they surrender their jutsu without discussion was a mistake. He's sorry.
    • Hazo withheld nothing useful in combat during the war.
      • A few diagnostic seals, a few they can't use, but nothing else.
      • He's reconsidering MARS access: it potentially leaked with Akane's death.
    • The issue of KEI justu will come up for every clan.
      • Goketsu's influential. What they decide, collectively, could set precedent.
      • What do they want? What issues do they see? Do they have ideas? You want something that works for everyone - them included.
      • Encourage them to ruminate: you don't need an answer immediately.
    • Additionally, encourage Mari to share a few more of her ninjutsu.
      • Over half the clan shares her Lightning Element; more ninjutsu could be genuinely gamechanging for them.
      • At the very least, she could share the techniques she contributed to the Tower with the Clan.
  • Offscreen
    • Hazou takes control of Sasha's training
    • Trade for Harumitsu's Cold Seal.
      • Offer: Any two genin seals except Goo Bombs
    • Remind him Hazou will always help him out if he really needs it
    • Nobs tests to see if storing an item sterilizes it (Spirits are sorta alive?)
    • Would Arachnid Silk Bandages be an improvement on regular bandages? If so, donate a bunch. We can take a temporary loss on the Silk Trade.
  • Sealing
    • Test how MARS interacts with Rocket Boots, try triggering pairs attached to the feet/elbows/back and multiple pairs at once
      • Use SCs as test subjects.
    • SC SSA: MS8 Latching derivative. Full prep
    • Prime SSA: Reusable Rocket Boots. Full prep
      • Improve the seal until it challenges stagnation
      • Aim for six uses, and then boost the bonus as much as possible
    • Non-SSA SC
      • Full prep 4FSoP
      • Research Dampeners and then use them
      • Keep genin seals coming - Substitution, Harumitsu's Cold Seal, Electrocution, other Jiraiya seals
      • Abort any seal if it seems difficult, do not risk sealing failures
Updated plan, large edits in bold. @Twinnstars @_The_Bomb this is researching 4FSoP, @Lord Marshal your MARS experiment made it in. @Shrooms @acidshill @RandomOTP the Harumitsu section has been cut for WC trade moved to offscreen
 
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