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but what about the KEI and the older clan heads? I think that covers most of the groups with power in Leaf.
How many people do you want to bring on a single excursion
I'd say just do that the update after this. Also, technically speaking some of the peers mentioned in the plan are KEI I think.

Mari says we might have to do some nasty purifying ritual via the Hags to get clean. Thoughts on that?
Sure, idc. I'm not leaping at the chance to reignite Hagoromo beef but if it lets us move on then lets do it. Does it need to be done this update or can it wait for next one?
 
[X] Action Plan: So, You Have Come This Far, and Still, You Understand Nothing
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  • Optimize with Mari/Kei
  • Clan Announcement: Denounce Hidan's penchant for ritual mass slaughter as recommended
    • Hazou has literally dedicated his career to preserving lives, even civilians, which he's frequently laughed at for doing. He's frankly astonished anyone believed he'd support ritual execution of people he's invested so much in protecting.
    • People say crazy things about Hazou daily. Look at his actions, not words from literal zealot mass-murderers.
    • Have Mari organize Goketsu ninja and handle suspicious characters to avoid another Scarf Man incident.
  • Bring upset Goketsu to Bakuchioka. Invite same-age Clan Heads/peers from specjonin celebration.
    • With permissions, explain exactly what happened.
      • Hidan broke in to Leaf and kidnapped Hazou, then forced him to play psychotic murder games.
        • When faced with an S-Ranker, your choice is generally, "Go along with what they want," or "Die." Hidan is no exception. Except he won't just kill Hazou. He'd kill everyone and everything Hazou cares about just to prove a point, just because he can.
      • Hazou helped Bakuchioka recover as well as he could, but those people are still dead, along with another village the Goketsu had assisted that Hidan just visited. How's it possible to believe Hazou could endorse that? He's genuinely baffled. You can't both think he's a pussy for caring about every life and think he's a murder cultist. That's frankly stupid.
    • He's dedicated himself to sealmastery at the expense of his combat/social abilities, to Mari's dismay. Why? Punching empowers himself, but better seals empower his Clan and Leaf ninja. He must be careful what he shares lest it get turned against Leaf. Shikaku taught him that. He's determined to become so skilled, no sealmaster can imitate him and he can share freely.
    • Until he makes something to deal with S-Rankers, Hazou's stuck doing whatever they say. That doesn't mean you should believe crazy shit they say.

So are we putting off the Yuno conversation until next plan, or leaving what to do about Yuno to the rest of the Goketsu?
 
How many people do you want to bring on a single excursion
I'd say just do that the update after this. Also, technically speaking some of the peers mentioned in the plan are KEI I think.


Sure, idc. I'm not leaping at the chance to reignite Hagoromo beef but if it lets us move on then lets do it. Does it need to be done this update or can it wait for next one?
TBH I wouldn't mind asking Ritsuo for someone (less busy than him presumably) to learn more of the Will of Fire from. Jiraiya was intending to teach us, but well...
 
So are we putting off the Yuno conversation until next plan, or leaving what to do about Yuno to the rest of the Goketsu?
Velorien is still writing that AFAIK. Also, not everything is Hazou's job, especially since he is apparently the worst person to handle the situation

TBH I wouldn't mind asking Ritsuo for someone (less busy than him presumably) to learn more of the Will of Fire from. Jiraiya was intending to teach us, but well...
I'm like 90% sure this conversation already happened offscreen and Hazou was like "Hmm that was a bunch of vapid garbage." This is also where we attempted to get Sage lore from them IIRC. Get it from Asuma or something, he's technically the embodiment of it or whatever.
 
I'm like 90% sure this conversation already happened offscreen and Hazou was like "Hmm that was a bunch of vapid garbage." This is also where we attempted to get Sage lore from them IIRC. Get it from Asuma or something, he's technically the embodiment of it or whatever.
Yeah but like, Ritsuo knowing we're making an effort is relevant.
 
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Ah, the terror of stage fright. I remember my own struggles public speaking in first grade and third grade. The sweaty palms and having to remember my simple speech weren't fun at the time but it's still nostalgic though. I'll be rooting for Yasuo.


The Kool-Aid song started to immediately go off in my head as soon as he mentioned the Goketsu contributions to sealcraft. Feels damn good to make it into the history books and even better when it seems to imply Uplift actually turned out to be successful in the future. Kind of also nice to know there's technology based off of seals in the future, which implies we ushered in less risk or more stability to the field.



Yeah! Hooray for humanity getting 300 more years. Guess Shikamaru's calculations of when the apocalypse might occur had to be frequently updated thanks to us. You could say uplift was quite troublesome. And I'm not surprised Icha Icha was continued in some form or another. The real question is who was lewd and brave enough to commit to continuing the series after Jiraiya?



...Right.
Post village era. Things must have really changed in three centuries.
Still, not that much hero worship or propaganda present so far. I wonder if the Will of Fire has gone the wayside as well.



Okay, okay, I'm liking where this is headed.
Ninja parliament sounds stronger than the clan council- enough so that the rule of one ninja over the others is a thing of the past. And Hazou and Mari helped start this somehow.

(Smiles at the mention of Jiraiya's death "the first time".)



Yeah, the victors get to write history. And the biased academics who study them can make them sound even more awesome or complicated- within reason. I'm still going to bask in the prestige of the Goketsu being included in the textbooks, especially when they were such a new clan.

Wonder if that was based off of trying to make pressure-activated armor. I've got to check again. Would be totally cool of Kagome to continue his work where he left off. That's assuming he gets more chances to off essies that can tank his traps.

Very unfortunate what happened to Yudai, by the way. It looks like he might be permanently gone. My guess is that deaths that occur as a result of a sealing failure are either much more difficult to reverse or impossible.

Bummer.



Nice.

Chakra beasts seemed to have been culled by civilians. That's awesome. Although, I'm kinda sad that they were done away with like that if it became so easy to kill them. Wish there was some usage for them that humanity would have stumbled upon.

And it looks like Skywalkers will be going through some major improvements. I can't wait for them to start lasting whole hours. This will dramatically improve Leaf's ability to penetrate other villages and reduce the cost of producing Skywalkers. We already have a lot of the tools for remote viewing, which is going to be a game-changer, and improving on that is absolutely going to be big for village perimeter defense. There's no mention of the role of Sky Sliders or Sky slicers though; were the two inventions impractical for ninja combat?

Looks like these folks have what Iron country always dreamed of-kind of bitter sweet knowing that civilians just aren't a thing in the future.



Hm, I can see AMITY having a few rough years ahead of it as the villages hold onto old grudges or as ninja warfare shifts into an even more clandestine direction. It does sounds like it eventually gets stronger and Leaf also happens to chest burst out of the organization.

Can't say that Sand eventually joining Hidden Leaf is any shock at all. They were practically brow-beaten into participating in the 4th Shinobi war when they really wanted to play neutral. Seems like being cursed with terrible geography eventually caught up with them after their military losses to Akatsuki. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if players had chosen to start out as missing-nin in Wind country instead of Fire. It sucks for them that they never got a chance to interact with team Uplift.



And our boy, Hazou, is a legend in his own right. Really surprised we got enough approval to make a bid for the hat. I guess Naruto slacked off something fierce. Or maybe he retired and our feats were just too numerous to deny, even by the conservative block. Also looks like we went ahead with plan Necro and retrieved people from the afterlife.

If chakra-based technology is only possible with solid state sealing, then chakra transistors must have been developed then? I'd think you'd need chakra to be more consistent, but I'm already way, way outside of my laymen's knowledge.

Loved the fact that our quality of life camping and survival seals caught on. Comfort always wins.



Holy shit. We used rift based seals for building infrastructure? Wait...we'd totally do that. Lol.
And I spoke too soon. We got our hands on Yudai, which is a big win. Yes. He needs to be careful with that pressure-based seal of his though. Jiraiya's notes should help with that.

Finally, opening rifts sounds exciting as hell. I'm imagining Hazou opening up rifts and doing some damage like he's some kind of Diablo 3 character. I think he'd be a Demon Hunter, not quite sure what build though. You know, It would be funny if locking up the dragons only prevented them from entering the 7th path or Human path. Rifts invaded by dragons sounds like fair game to me.

I noticed a certain Goketsu with an affinity for snakes wasn't mentioned.
:drevil:
Only the first trio of Gōketsu sealmasters were commented on.

Orochimaru, Harumitsu, and Kagome's independently aware shadow clone are the second three.
 
We will need to kill people.
Well, we still have the bandit mission option. . .

We've been running around since EM Nuke happened. We've been reacting to the fires that cropped up since then. Arguably even before then.
Yes. I wouldn't say I'm burning out, but it is difficult to feel as engaged when you're not so much juggling between different fires as being cooked by the fires. Too much intensity is tiring after a while, and having fun/light interludes really helps.

Denounce Hidan's penchant for ritual mass slaughter as recommended
The Hivemind and Hazou may believe that Jashinism can be... in some way... described as "Hidan's penchant for ritual mass slaughter", but I worry that others may see we are avoiding denouncing Jashinism itself. If Mary can come up with a clever speach that obfuscate* (edit: botched the spelling) the issue though, that's a win. We don't need everybody to believe the speach, just enough people that we can gain some time to prove our loyalty.

Not that I think they've earned it.

He's dedicated himself to sealmastery at the expense of his combat/social abilities, to Mari's dismay.
Well, Hazou is a clan lord so social capability are pretty much expected of him. But saving the world is a tad more urgent, I'd think.

Bring upset Goketsu to Bakuchioka. Invite same-age Clan Heads/peers from specjonin celebration.
I think that's a very good idea. If anything, Hazou is the only one who managed to limit Hidan's jashinist massacres.

Mari says we might have to do some nasty purifying ritual via the Hags
Which they may well refuse just to spite us and prevent us from regaining legitimacy.
Well, why not, but I expect it to bring more trouble.

So are we putting off the Yuno conversation until next plan, or leaving what to do about Yuno to the rest of the Goketsu?
Hopefully this'll be addressed in Vel's next part. Also, we need to deal with Noburi's anger. We can't do this without him.

Yeah but like, Ritsuo knowing we're making an effort is relevant.
Is he more interested in knowing whether we believe in the will of fire, or in screwing us over? I'd say the latter.

Kagome's independently aware shadow clone are the second three
Wait, what?

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[x] Another heartwarming interlude pls
 
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It's a running theory, based on what we've seen (out of character) of Kagome's backstory. He basically got fused with three(?) alternate universe versions of himself, and that's where he gets so much of his lore.

The running theory of the hivemind is that, should Kagome ever learn SC, they won't be iterations of "Goketsu Kagome" the way that Hazou's are, or even "headmates of Goketsu Kagome, embodied," the way that Mari's Shadow Clones are, but will, instead, be the Alternate Universe selves that Our Kagome got blended with.*

*this was well before Kagome met the party, and was part of the reason Kagome was hiding out in the wilds for so long.
 
It's a running theory, based on what we've seen (out of character) of Kagome's backstory. He basically got fused with three(?) alternate universe versions of himself, and that's where he gets so much of his lore.

The running theory of the hivemind is that, should Kagome ever learn SC, they won't be iterations of "Goketsu Kagome" the way that Hazou's are, or even "headmates of Goketsu Kagome, embodied," the way that Mari's Shadow Clones are, but will, instead, be the Alternate Universe selves that Our Kagome got blended with.*

*this was well before Kagome met the party, and was part of the reason Kagome was hiding out in the wilds for so long.
I guess there's only one way to find out. Though, why three in particular?
 
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    [X] Lore Update
    [x] Another heartwarming interlude pls
    [X] Action Plan: So, You Have Come This Far, and Still, You Understand Nothing
    [X] Interlude: The Five Kages react to Jiraiya revealing Skywalkers
    [X] Interlude: Bakuchioka and Their Years of Till'n'Fills
    [x] Summon Jashin
    [x] acidshill's timeskip TODO list
    [X] Dedicate some SCs to professing Hazou's deep and unending love for the will of fire, denouncing Jashinism, pointing out essies just be saying shit and Hazou was trying to prevent Hidan from murderizing Leaf (seriously does this not go without saying?), saving cats from trees, kissing babies, and giving out money to neurodivergent KEI orphans, then go back to the stuff we were doing before the latest social nuclear blast, namely sealing research and making fat stacks of cash.
    [X] Interlude: The Goo Bomb Trade Deal
    [X] Interlude: Kei's POV of Chapter 257


Status of current votes. I'll be voting for (most) any interlude. So if there's something you want to see, toss it in, and it'll (likely) get my vote.

[X] Interlude: What Ever Became of Team Downfall?
 
[X] Interlude: The Five Kages react to Jiraiya revealing Skywalkers
[UTTER DISBELIEF]
[OH, WAIT, WORLD'S BEST SEALMASTER; IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME]
[WHAT DO YOU MEAN, HIS SEALING GENIN SON MADE IT]
[INTERNAL SCREAMING]

Now I think of it, [UTTER DISBELIEF] and [INTERNAL SCREAMING] between them cover the majority of NPC reactions to Hazō. This is going to save me so much writing time in the future.
 
Ohhh, are we requesting pet-obscure-character interludes?

[x] Interlude: "Suzuki Kimi"
[x] Interlude: Katō Yūto
[x] Interlude: Doigama Emon
[x] Interlude: Kid
[x] Interlude: Yuki Yukino
 
Yes. I wouldn't say I'm burning out, but it is difficult to feel as engaged when you're not so much juggling between different fires as being cooked by the fires. Too much intensity is tiring after a while, and having fun/light interludes really helps.
To make the unspoken spoken, it's worth noting that if this opinion reaches critical mass, the voters can just stop voting to set things on fire.
 
To make the unspoken spoken, it's worth noting that if this opinion reaches critical mass, the voters can just stop voting to set things on fire.
There is such a thing as fire propagation, and the difficulty of predicting EN's reaction to our actions. For example, issue 1: surviving Hidan's massmurder BS generated issue -2a- (Yuno being converted offscreen, beyond our expectations) and Issue -2b- (we are seen as heretics due to surviving and 'befriending' mass murderer Hidan). If you feel you've had a reliable streak of predicting the failure points in our plans, then I think we are very interested in foolproofing future plans.

[X] Interlude: Team Muramatsu
[x] Interlude: Yuki Yukino
 
There is such a thing as fire propagation, and the difficulty of predicting EN's reaction to our actions. For example, issue 1: surviving Hidan's massmurder BS generated issue -2a- (Yuno being converted offscreen, beyond our expectations) and Issue -2b- (we are seen as heretics due to surviving and 'befriending' mass murderer Hidan). If you feel you've had a reliable streak of predicting the failure points in our plans, then I think we are very interested in foolproofing future plans.

One thing that I think that's is being missed is that ultimately none of theses "fires" actually matters. Let's look at our actual goals. We want to crack necromancy, figure out 3-d sealing/defeat the dragons and, become powerful enough that we can do big moves safely. None of these goals are impacted meaninglfully by current events.
 
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