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Okay now articulate the material harm done to Goketsu in this instance due to Ruka's bias and incompetence.
And then explain why the Tower should be responsible for making us whole.
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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
And then explain why the Tower should be responsible for making us whole.
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They were, but I'm not sure whether it was IC or OOC.
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Hold the phone, we need to remember that Itachi is actually a little bitch.
[coughs necromantically]
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Looking forward to finding out what that means.
This is indefinite solitary confinement, except that you're allowed to see the sun and the horizon and breathe fresh air. No letters is arguably even more extreme than that. This is, in fact, brutal and not a slap on the wrist. Regarding Ruka I am satisfied.
Edit: The Hagoromo, who have had a decades long reputation of knowing the most about the Will of Fire since the Senju, being near purged from Leaf bureaucracy is also significant. Because let's be honest, nobody is perfect and if all of their work is put under a close lense and they have to take personal responsibility for every misstep then the majority is in fact getting fired.
Yes we lost our love. No, the Hagoromo probably didn't orchestrate it. And if Akane is actually dead then she died within minutes, not days.
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You should get that checked, it sounds pretty bad.
[CLARIFICATION: The Hagoromo do not have resources at their disposal which, if seized, would provide a straight line to getting Akane back, because necromancy requires intelligence, drive, creative thinking, and a willingness to let go of one's preconceptions about the world, none of which are traits found in the Hagoromo in more than trace quantities which are likely a reflection of the fact that we haven't cleaned the spectrometer recently.)
(Kid Hag was adopted - we should check if he's somehow related to Jiraiya - and doesn't count.)
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Earthshaping Experiments
- Give pure iron and other materials to the Goketsu's Master Blacksmith and see what he can produce
- Maybe he can produce a better Spear for Yuuma, with its own Aspects about how finely it's produced?
- Obsidian Scalpels, condensed by 50% for durability. Work with Noburi, present to Asuma and [head of hospital] for approval
- Cast MEW/MARI on solid ground, extract Iron from the Granite, sell to Leaf.
- Draw up Gold from the Earth, sell for profit
- ES an Akane statue, with a gold heart inside of it
- Seawater contains gold (10–30 g/km3). It's not a lot but I wonder if we can select for areas of higher gold density by Earthshaping the shore.
- Other Gold
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It does not matter how much XP it takes to get an X capstone via monofocus. Mari and many ninja are running multicolumn, and Mari was definitely running it very wide in general at the beginning. That is why SJ even exist - you can play in the big leagues in one thing and still be a chuunin in everything else, unlike "real" jounin.
Okay so? Hardly matters overall considering the XP that stunts take relative to everything else, I am simply illustrating the point.
Actually, the calculation I ran assumed average skill level to be X5 (and counted double/half cost skills etc). There is no such assumption being made here, there ARE wide XP brackets because that's how pyramids work. Even if you say you want to sit at X9 always, the ninja a column tier higher can just sit at X9 + 10, so there is a big gap if you can afford to have a higher capstone than another ninja. If you are not running a monocolumn capstone as a ninja, then at 14-20k you are pretty universally going to be running a 60, at 20-30k you are going to be rolling a 70, and of course you can be a little higher or a little lower, but a ninja can at times have only half as much XP and have the same capstone tier as another who only has half of theirs, because brackets.
Kurenai vs Itachi was a purely narrative QM interpretation of a simulator specifically written for that big doomsday battle and using simplified statsheets and simplified rules spitting out a result that was essentially "These people live, these people die". No direct simulation was run for that fight. If there was, Kurenai would in all likelihood get completely wrecked in one to two rounds.
While we are at Itachi, he oneshot Naruto, an S-ranker perfect jinchuriki, in one round, with a genjutsu (that perfect jinchuriki are thought to be entirely immune to, by the way). In a fight that was actually simulated unlike Nagi.
You know what actual examples of Elite Jounin "fighting" S-rankers and the outcomes of that we have?
- Mari getting casually blasted by Yagura's mere Aura as an elite jounin in flashbacks.
- Mari getting casually blasted by Oro's mere Aura as a more experienced elite jounin in the story.
- Jiraiya casually manhandling a certain elite jounin from Mist and drowning them.
- Jiraiya strongarming the entire Clan Council, consisting of then mostly elite jounin like Hiashi, into making him Hokage without due procedure.
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My imagination is in overdrive trying to figure out what this sounds like.
Eh, it won't kill him (at least for long).
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You mean like Asuma explicitly said could happen as the minimum possible penalty?
I'm not crying. I'm not, honest.
That was extremely cool. Thank you for sharing.
In theory, Hazō is established purely by the plans and discussion doesn't matter. In practice, the authors are human and likely to carry some impressions from the thread with us as we write.
Nope, sorry. Nice try, though. :>
Right circumstances? I don't have to...ohhhh, wait.
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I wonder if Hazo got a Sharingan roll when it set in that Akane was dead. Seems sorta like the type of thing that could potentially do it.
imo, like a lich/necromancer/etc. coughing politely to let the room know that they're alive again, after the adventurers pull out all the stops, use all their items, and get damaged down to 1hp in the process of killing them
I mean why would he? Its a mutated bloodline, not an inferior one where Sharingan is some "higher, better version that can be evolved to". Unless you are postulating Mangekyo Iron Nerve.
...It would be fun to unlock Mangekyo Iron Nerve at a certain TYS threshold.
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I'm trying to find the quote right now, but I was fairly sure that his line has had Sharingan throwbacks before. Give me an hour to look though sharingan mentions.
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I too have trouble managing my emotions whenever I remember how critics butchered a musical with so good a score and stagecraft that impressiveI'm not crying. I'm not, honest.
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Hazou can't unlock Sharingan, but there's a percentage change that Hazou's offspring will have a Sharingan that they cannot pass along to their offspring.
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Players: [vote in this plan]
QMs: [discuss what happens]
EJ: [sits down to write]
EJProblemIdentifier: A lot of the players are angry at Ruka for killing Akane, but that's inaccurate. Ruka didn't kill Akane, and by the time of Ruka's malfeasance the action was long over. There's also no evidence that Ritsuo was involved, but the players hate him and are going to want blood. There's definitely going to be an 'Asuma is such a pussy!1!!!' theme being pushed if Asuma does anything less than commit genocide against the Hagoromo. How do we feel about that?
EJThreadFollower: Not great.
EJExpositionFairy: Ooh, ooh, I've got an idea!
EJCoordinator: Is it "let's choose a character and spend a third to a half of the update having them talk directly into the camera, explaining in excruciating detail what is happening and why in a way that will make it clear that this person is actually pretty good at their job but they're dealing with a world that is not black and white, simplistic solutions don't work, vengeance makes nothing better, inappropriately directed anger doesn't help, and disproportionate expectations are doomed to disappointment"?
EJExpositionFairy: Um... Why do you ask?
EJCoordinator: Because that's what you always suggest.
EJExpositionFairy: But it would be so kewl!
EJSelfAwareness: Ugh. You just lost us 50 coolness points for using the word 'kewl'. Even we know that no one says that anymore.
EJExpositionFairy: I don't see you coming up with any better ideas! Nyah! [sticks out tongue]
EJProblemIdentifier: It won't help. It never helps.
EJExpositionFairy: Shut up, Eeyore.
EJProblemIdentifier: That's right, don't listen. It doesn't matter. Nothing matters. Mwahahaha.
EJ: Would all of you please be quiet? I'm trying to write.
QMs: [discuss what happens]
EJ: [sits down to write]
EJProblemIdentifier: A lot of the players are angry at Ruka for killing Akane, but that's inaccurate. Ruka didn't kill Akane, and by the time of Ruka's malfeasance the action was long over. There's also no evidence that Ritsuo was involved, but the players hate him and are going to want blood. There's definitely going to be an 'Asuma is such a pussy!1!!!' theme being pushed if Asuma does anything less than commit genocide against the Hagoromo. How do we feel about that?
EJThreadFollower: Not great.
EJExpositionFairy: Ooh, ooh, I've got an idea!
EJCoordinator: Is it "let's choose a character and spend a third to a half of the update having them talk directly into the camera, explaining in excruciating detail what is happening and why in a way that will make it clear that this person is actually pretty good at their job but they're dealing with a world that is not black and white, simplistic solutions don't work, vengeance makes nothing better, inappropriately directed anger doesn't help, and disproportionate expectations are doomed to disappointment"?
EJExpositionFairy: Um... Why do you ask?
EJCoordinator: Because that's what you always suggest.
EJExpositionFairy: But it would be so kewl!
EJSelfAwareness: Ugh. You just lost us 50 coolness points for using the word 'kewl'. Even we know that no one says that anymore.
EJExpositionFairy: I don't see you coming up with any better ideas! Nyah! [sticks out tongue]
EJProblemIdentifier: It won't help. It never helps.
EJExpositionFairy: Shut up, Eeyore.
EJProblemIdentifier: That's right, don't listen. It doesn't matter. Nothing matters. Mwahahaha.
EJ: Would all of you please be quiet? I'm trying to write.
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And yet for some reason you claim you have trouble writing Ami.
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Noumero
Omit Needless Words
For the record, I also think Ruka's punishment is actually excessive, and would support plans that try to argue it down. (Granted, I mostly want to do that because I think it'll look impressive to Asuma, not because I care about Ruka's punishment being just.)
I am overall a bit surprised about the sheer extent to which the thread as a whole seems to hate the Hagoromo. I get that homophobes/religious bigots hit closer to home than mass murders and torturers, but, you know, maybe try to calibrate to the context a little? They're so very far from the worst things in the setting, far from the worst things we've made chummy with, even. It's unbecoming to be so disproportionately hostile to them.
They're not even that important! They're just some vermin — if you really want to call them something mean to feel self-righteous. Even their contribution to Akane's death here was that of mildly inconveniencing us. They're just a distraction.
I am overall a bit surprised about the sheer extent to which the thread as a whole seems to hate the Hagoromo. I get that homophobes/religious bigots hit closer to home than mass murders and torturers, but, you know, maybe try to calibrate to the context a little? They're so very far from the worst things in the setting, far from the worst things we've made chummy with, even. It's unbecoming to be so disproportionately hostile to them.
They're not even that important! They're just some vermin — if you really want to call them something mean to feel self-righteous. Even their contribution to Akane's death here was that of mildly inconveniencing us. They're just a distraction.
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Now that ES50 can affect metal, it's a good time to bring our goal of Chakra Metal Synthesis back into our minds.
We need to test our new limits and see what happens when we try to push as much chakra into a piece of metal as possible.
Additionally, we need to see if we can gather trace amounts of existing chakra metal from rock in chakra-rich areas and combine it into useful quantities.
The path forward is clear, our destination closer than ever.
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I'm not bothering with these. You've been told why this stance is ridiculous enough times by now that I doubt me saying it again would matter.
Oh, you mean the strongest ninja alive at the time barring Pain, surprise attacking a Melee Weapons specialist without their weapon? That casual manhandling? Great point, truly excellent.
The same Hiashi that Jiraiya said he wouldn't want to fight in close quarters? That 'elite jonin' Hiashi?
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I'll be honest, I'm not really hostile due to past actions. It's literally just this Akane one. It crossed several lines IMO.
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Ruka's punishment isn't really excessive per se, it's Asuma sending a very strong message about the quality of work he expects from Tower workers. Asuma isn't punishing her like this as a bone to the Goketsu - not really - he's doing it as a threat to every other Tower worker.