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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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[X] Action Plan: The Ghosts of the Ancient Wings
[X] Training Plan Noburi: Med Nin
[X] Hazou's 300 Stunt XP
[X] Akane's 300 Stunt XP
[X] Noburi's 300 Stunt XP
[X] Kei's 300 Stunt XP
 
RandomOTP said:
May want to add something to the effect of "for a negotiated duration" so that it's not perpetual.
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I mean, we might need to sign off on that to get the notes. I'm not super concerned about that, Mari will handle the details

EDIT: Realistically, Hazou's median life span is about 2 years

[X] Hazou's 300 Stunt XP
[X] Akane's 300 Stunt XP
[X] Noburi's 300 Stunt XP
[X] Kei's 300 Stunt XP
 
Shrooms said:
Macerators add to Taijutsu because you put them on the end of your fist and when you punch the velocity of your fist is added to the macerator projectiles. Melee Weapons, Ranged Weapons, Ninjutsu etc don't benefit (though I do wonder if there is some way you could get a projectile that points the macerator in the right direction when you throw it...). So it's solely a Taijutsu buff as of now.
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Ah, okay, thank you.
 
faflec said:
Continue to work on Sealing on the Human Path.
  • Multithread SCs when possible
  • For any new seal do at least one prep day to gauge the difficulty
    • Research directional explosives, with Kagome assisting if possible.
      • When finished, proceed to Rocket Boots
    • Research Darkness Seals if Hazou can do it without using SSA.
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Alright I gotta know @faflec, why go to all the trouble to fork my plan last cycle to vote in a bunch of (useless IMO) research, and then next cycle, fork my plan again, but not include that same research that Hazou has definitely not finished? It seems strange, to say the least.
 
Sir Stompy said:
Alright I gotta know @faflec, why go to all the trouble to fork my plan last cycle to vote in a bunch of (useless IMO) research, and then next cycle, fork my plan again, but not include that same research that Hazou has definitely not finished? It seems strange, to say the least.
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Huh? I forked your plan last time to do prepwork for the Conclave, I don't recall any research besides the stuff Maddie wanted. This time I wanted to avoid doing the Uplift stuff.

Edit: Also I thought that research was done?
eaglejarl said:
(EDIT: You did the rest of what was in the plan, including seal research on a 'dramatic entrance' scene and talking to the others about how to make that work.)
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Sir Stompy said:
We spent a single day on seal research, it's not done, we probably didn't even roll for it.
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Welp in that case:
faflec said:
It's a fork of Sir Stompy's plan, minus the Uplift meeting thing.

[X] Action Plan: The Ghosts of the Ancient Isolationist Wings
Word Count: ???
  • Sanity check with Kei/Mari
  • Visit Archaeopteryx with Enma
    • Brief him on everything we know about the gthsss
    • Aim to bring back (part of) one of the Dragons killed by the Archaeopteryx for the Conclave.
      • Do not mention this objective around Orochimaru or Hebiue
    • Bring Kagome with you
      • Ask Kumokugo for some Arachnid and Hornet escorts, especially any that are skilled at searching a large area quickly
    • Send contracted summons to travel with Enma so that Hazou and Kagome can join the party at the coast.
      • Do not bring any Dogs to Archeopteryx itself
    • Be on alert for gthsss attacking from above.
    • Suggest contacting the Sharks to see if they know where the Dragon corpses were dumped into the ocean.
  • Ask if Enma could bring Arachnids to Conclave
    • They don't run as fast as human ninja, but some of the mites have size-changing jutsu, they could ride along.
      • Approach the subject carefully, try not to offend Enma.
        • Brainstorm conversational approaches with Mari beforehand.
    • Ask Enma how long he thinks his journey to Pangolin will take
      • Hazou is aiming to arrive at the Conclave three weeks before then.
  • Continue to work on Sealing on the Human Path.
    • Multithread SCs when possible
    • For any new seal do at least one prep day to gauge the difficulty
    • Continue research on Conclave-related seals.
    • When done:
      • Research directional explosives, with Kagome assisting if possible.
        • When finished, proceed to Rocket Boots
      • Research Darkness Seals if Hazou can do it without using SSA.
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In all seriousness, I really thought that stuff was done.
 
Oneiros said:
This plan let's us get Med Know 50, physique 40, Med Nin 40, Resolve 30, Deceit 20, Stealth 20 and to new skills to ten in about 6 months

[X] Training Plan Noburi: Med Nin
Med Know 40 => 47 (126 Sannin XP + 182XP)
3 Sannin XP remaining
16 XP remaining
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Rapid Rejuvenation can be really useful with high Mednin that Noburi is approaching, and it only needs lv 10 (55 XP) to be fully useful. It would be worth grabbing now, I think, especially since it only costs one level of Med Know. Would you be open to changing the plan as such?

Med Know 40 => 46 (129 Sannin XP + 132XP)
Rapid Rejuvenation 0 => 10 (55 XP)
11 XP remaining
 
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Sir Stompy said:
Send contracted summons to travel with Enma so that Hazou/Kagome can join the party at the coast.
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Could you clarify: is the intention that the summons take Hazou and Kagome to the coast of Arachnid, and that Hazou and Kagome then take the 3 day boat ride to Archaeopteryx, or that the summons take the boat themselves and wait on the coast of Archaeopteryx where the danger is only moderate?
 
Paperclipped said:
Could you clarify: is the intention that the summons take Hazou and Kagome to the coast of Arachnid, and that Hazou and Kagome then take the 3 day boat ride to Archaeopteryx, or that the summons take the boat themselves and wait on the coast of Archaeopteryx where the danger is only moderate?
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Yes.

(I'm going to guess it's at the Aracheopteryx coast)
 
Paperclipped said:
Could you clarify: is the intention that the summons take Hazou and Kagome to the coast of Arachnid, and that Hazou and Kagome then take the 3 day boat ride to Archaeopteryx, or that the summons take the boat themselves and wait on the coast of Archaeopteryx where the danger is only moderate?
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My intention was the coast of Dog. But thinking about it, what does Hazou think about constructing a very large skytower and docking the ship at it a few miles off shore? IIRC the gthsss don't leave the Clan boundaries of Archeopteryx so it should be pretty safe. But they would know more about the risks than I do
 
Velorien said:
Thunk.

It was the sound of finality.
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Here's a distressing thought: Hazou would have killed them. He might come up with clever solutions, like an immediately lethal, painless methods, or a distraction gambit to free some of them, but I can't see Hazou just drawing a line in the sand, say no, and face the music.
Inferno Vulpix said:
I think I'm starting to like Ruri more and more each time we see her, it just kind of struck me as I read her perspective this chapter.

Also, what we see here from Kei is a great example of the struggle to balance pragmatic long-term 'greater good' thinking against keeping sight of your own ideals and doing good in the present. While it never stops being true that the sensible action for long-term utility maximization may contradict your local-scope morality, it is also true that your actions shape you as a person. The sort of person who can sacrifice everything on the altar of power is rarely the sort of person who can be trusted with it, and that doesn't even get into the odds said person just fails somewhere along the way and leaves a legacy of misery and broken dreams.

To be good, to be sure you're doing good and can be trusted to be a positive impact on the world now and in the future, you have to keep asking yourself what moral tradeoffs you can afford to make, not just in strategic terms but also in psychological terms. A would-be hero who stops thinking about how to do good in the situation right in front of them is unlikely to become a hero in truth. Does this make goodness naive? Perhaps, but it is more naive to consider oneself immune to the pressures that blind other people. An idealized person may be able to choose the strategic choice at every avenue and still come out as earnest and pure a do-gooder as they started, but for an ordinary human the safe route involves that constant struggle, balancing the need to carve a path towards your optimal future with the need to stay the sort of person who can walk that path to the end. And in the end, that means you sometimes have to just stand up for your morality and face whatever comes afterwards with your head held high.
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Edit1: Murdersnout2: I think Pantsa likes Kei a lot. I think back to when he seem to genuinely had a good time negotiating with her way back when for the contract and the seals. He's like an evil Jiraiya, ie Jiraiya :V
 
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Sir Stompy said:
[X] Action Plan: The Ghosts of the Ancient Wings
Word Count: 281
  • Sanity check with Kei/Mari
  • Visit Archaeopteryx with Enma
    • Brief him on the gthsss
    • Aim to bring back (part of) a Dragon killed by the Archaeopteryx for the Conclave.
      • Don't mention this around Orochimaru/Hebiue
    • Bring Kagome with you
      • Ask Kumokugo for some escorts, especially any that are skilled at searching large areas, quickly.
    • Send contracted summons to travel with Enma so that Hazou/Kagome can join the party at the coast.
      • Don't bring Dogs to Archeopteryx itself
    • Watch for gthsss attacking from above.
    • Suggest contacting Sharks, they might know where the Dragons were dumped.
  • Optimize with Mari beforehand: Ask if Enma could bring Arachnids to Conclave
    • They don't run quickly, but some mites have a size-changing jutsu. They could ride along?
      • Approach the subject carefully, try not to offend Enma.
    • Ask Enma how long he thinks his journey to Pangolin will take
      • Hazou wants to arrive at the Conclave three weeks prior.
  • Team Uplift meeting
    • San-check Ideas:
      • Establish trade with Naruto
        • Hazou/Kagome research Jiraiya's seals, giving Naruto a fixed amount every month
          • We can provide custom seals too
        • In exchange we're allowed to learn Jiraiya's jutsu, and receive copies of Minoto's notes pertaining to Technique Hacking and Sealing
      • Trade Orochimaru's jutsu to Ino
        • In exchange for a Resolve boosting jutsu, if such a thing exists
        • Offer seals as an alternative.
    • Mari will lead negotiations
  • Continue to work on Sealing on Human Path.
    • Multithread SCs when possible
    • For any new seal: do one prep day to assess
      • Research directional explosives, with Kagome assisting.
        • When finished, proceed to Rocket Boots
      • Research Darkness Seals if SSA is unnecessary to learn them
  • If he can't, research Macerators 4.0, or Banshee Lovers
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Ping me here or on Discord if you have questions, comments, concerns.
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Can we sanity check the ideas that need sanity checking with Hazou first? @eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped What does he think of these?

Additionally and separately, I think it's inappropriate to have Mari leading negotiations with Ino.
 
Cariyaga said:
Can we sanity check the ideas that need sanity checking with Hazou first? @eaglejarl @Velorien @Paperclipped What does he think of these?

Additionally and separately, I think it's inappropriate to have Mari leading negotiations with Ino.
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I thought about talking to Ino personally, but Hazou's Deceit is probably worse than Ino, and FOOM OPSEC is very much a thing. Sadly, i cannot find any solution that isn't "Let Mari do the talking", maybe let Mari do the talking with the Yamanaka elders, not Ino?.
 
Sir Stompy said:
Isn't this a huge conflict of interest? Does ninja culture even have such a thing as a conflict of interest? I don't want Ino to feel like we're using Hazou's relationship with her to get favorable trade deals.
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If it was Mari with Yamanaka elders I'd be okay with that. But I don't think it's appropriate to sic the clan's social spec on Hazou's girlfriend.
 
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