Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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occupying Haudenosaunee & Osage land she/her/hers
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'atta girl Kei. Take your destiny into your own hands
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I think I'm starting to like Ruri more and more each time we see her, it just kind of struck me as I read her perspective this chapter.
Also, what we see here from Kei is a great example of the struggle to balance pragmatic long-term 'greater good' thinking against keeping sight of your own ideals and doing good in the present. While it never stops being true that the sensible action for long-term utility maximization may contradict your local-scope morality, it is also true that your actions shape you as a person. The sort of person who can sacrifice everything on the altar of power is rarely the sort of person who can be trusted with it, and that doesn't even get into the odds said person just fails somewhere along the way and leaves a legacy of misery and broken dreams.
To be good, to be sure you're doing good and can be trusted to be a positive impact on the world now and in the future, you have to keep asking yourself what moral tradeoffs you can afford to make, not just in strategic terms but also in psychological terms. A would-be hero who stops thinking about how to do good in the situation right in front of them is unlikely to become a hero in truth. Does this make goodness naive? Perhaps, but it is more naive to consider oneself immune to the pressures that blind other people. An idealized person may be able to choose the strategic choice at every avenue and still come out as earnest and pure a do-gooder as they started, but for an ordinary human the safe route involves that constant struggle, balancing the need to carve a path towards your optimal future with the need to stay the sort of person who can walk that path to the end. And in the end, that means you sometimes have to just stand up for your morality and face whatever comes afterwards with your head held high.
Also, what we see here from Kei is a great example of the struggle to balance pragmatic long-term 'greater good' thinking against keeping sight of your own ideals and doing good in the present. While it never stops being true that the sensible action for long-term utility maximization may contradict your local-scope morality, it is also true that your actions shape you as a person. The sort of person who can sacrifice everything on the altar of power is rarely the sort of person who can be trusted with it, and that doesn't even get into the odds said person just fails somewhere along the way and leaves a legacy of misery and broken dreams.
To be good, to be sure you're doing good and can be trusted to be a positive impact on the world now and in the future, you have to keep asking yourself what moral tradeoffs you can afford to make, not just in strategic terms but also in psychological terms. A would-be hero who stops thinking about how to do good in the situation right in front of them is unlikely to become a hero in truth. Does this make goodness naive? Perhaps, but it is more naive to consider oneself immune to the pressures that blind other people. An idealized person may be able to choose the strategic choice at every avenue and still come out as earnest and pure a do-gooder as they started, but for an ordinary human the safe route involves that constant struggle, balancing the need to carve a path towards your optimal future with the need to stay the sort of person who can walk that path to the end. And in the end, that means you sometimes have to just stand up for your morality and face whatever comes afterwards with your head held high.
But summoners can't be killed on the 7th path? Surely the condors know this?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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It's difficult, but not impossible.
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
Yeah, a prepared Hazou could escape targeted Dragonfire (if only just), but that was a Hazou fully aware of the threat and ready to leave at a hair trigger. Throw something sharp at his neck while he's distracted and he'd die just the same as anyone.
HAZOU: I resent that!
You basically have to one-shot them. Since they can desummon as a reflexive or Supplemental action. I'm not sure if we have actual rules on it, but either kill then in one turn or in one Round.
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Are we ever so lucky?
I find this confusing, is Kei Ruri really that grateful to Kei for acting as bait when they killed the previous Condor Summoner? That was mostly Naruto and Ami, plus some Pangolin support.
The Hokage gave her the scroll afterwards IIRC. Wouldn't he be a better target for Ruri's gratitude?
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Or a plan with Ami before a Velorien chapter, or a plan with punching when Eaglejarl writes.
Hmm, I never spent any time thinking about this or at least no one can prove I did but that's gotta be a seduction specialist lesson at some point right? How to use a ballgag to ironically make them talk 101. I don't wonder if cracking experts learn to open safes. They can get exploding tags from the Tower. Wait, seduction experts also can. That's gotta work for making people reveal secrets as well right? Would be fun if there were social-specs only focused on intimidation. Level 70 "boo!"
If Kei were a seduction specialist, that would be an example of an opportunity to be exploited-
Pantsā might want to help the transition by going full "we have always been at war with Eastasia" and using propaganda to modify common expressions, that can't help with the empire unification
(Sorry)
Oh hey I got this pun! Some of the names are either not puns or too big brain for me but this one is accessible. Let's hope it's not too representative of how this talk will go.
I don't know, Akane and Ino really do have great hair--
Contrition? I don't know this Condor-
Fair warning: if this Condor body language theme is building up to "T-pose to establish dominance" I'm naming my first-born child after you.
One and a half out of three correct, if you asked her.
Oh, he's being... ContrarianokayI'mgivingmyselfacookie.
Full serious this is why we need to get back on psychotherapy and psychiatry at some point. There are horrors here that make the Lady of the Million Yard Stare dissociate.
"Oh that's far from it, I didn't tell you about her uncle yet"
Why are these murdery summons so cute with their names?
Yagura figured out how to reverse the concept of "family-friendly" into "family-inimical" and that's frankly impressive.
I'll say, that is certainly stupendously surprising serendipity.
Later still, it occurred to her that she might not even be an ally-
Hey wait, that's an intimidation spec jōnin right there! Awarding myself a second cookie!
Mari lesson number 1: the response is death. No wait that was for blackmail. Eh, same difference. Blackmail and threats are the same concept.
Wait, that was INSUFFICIENT EVIL?
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Velorien is the second-most evil QM for a reason.
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@Paperclipped and I have spent the last couple hours doing most of the mechanics for the Hyena fight.
Y'all, seriously...please buy some gorram Alertness. This is embarrassing.
Y'all, seriously...please buy some gorram Alertness. This is embarrassing.
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Buy Calligraphy, buy Earthshaping, buy Alertness, buy Underwater Basket Weaving...
You folks realize we can't do all these stats you want Hazou to have in a timely manner without a serious xp inflow bump right
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We get XP when the GMs have fun. Let's be hilarious.Buy Calligraphy, buy Earthshaping, buy Alertness, buy Underwater Basket Weaving...
You folks realize we can't do all these stats you want Hazou to have in a timely manner without a serious xp inflow bump right
Proposals:
- a seal that punches people. you activate it, it punches you.
- the Onion Drive
- scaring the normies
- pranking the Hagoromo
- asking Ibiki out, seeing the chaos unfold
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- UK
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Every summon name without exception is a pun or other form of wordplay. So are about a quarter of all Japanese or seemingly Japanese names of people, places, etc., although often they are subtle, obscure, and/or references nobody will get.
I was thinking of "torikago", "birdcage", after the memorable Birdcage Plan in Trails of Cold Steel 3, but it's the same word.
I will remember this statement next time I write an update, and you will not be happy I remembered it.
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Oh. Well even more of them flew over my head then haha
Damn Avian clans
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(Tone: joking) Hey, you're already making us buy Calligraphy! Stop trying to delay ES50!
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So in your opinion, should we go for Alertness jōnin, Examination jōnin, kill-you-with-my-brain jutsu jōnin, Earth Clone jōnin, literary analysis jōnin, or Underwater Basket Weaving jōnin?
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The benefits of Alertness, kill-you-with-my-brain jutsu, and Underwater Basketweaving jōnin are self-explanatory, but I would love to see how the players munchkin literary analysis into a path to overwhelming power (that they would do so is not in question).
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I mean frankly the power of literature is a big part of Hazou's current prolific skills with Sealing... Perhaps he really can simply read his way to jonin