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If Tsunade saw significant benefit from getting doctors SC they'd have it and be using it a lot; therefore we can assume she doesn't.

Exact chakra measurement isn't a thing and most people don't have Noburis chakra reserves and the ability to recharge.

Noburi's clones would be less useful than normal - they can't really use chakra. We might be able to get her to apply some light pressure because, of the few things his clones are capable of doing, one is 'study MedKnow', but I don't think she's going to be decisive here.

We don't know how Noburi clones would look like and Tsunade would at least be a safe start to ask instead of this:

I could get them to push for it for the sake of their research—seeing how the Vampiric Dew interacts with the Shadow Clone Technique and such.

Getting Tsunade on board is in no way a large problem.

Or do you think she can't spend time to talk about this in the next 10 days?
 
Noburi:
  • ...you're sure that you're okay taking on substantial personal risk to get SC, right? We can find another way.
  • If so, run the plan by Mari first. We need you alive.


Def not a fan at all of this. We should either offer alternative or respect Noburi's decisions on what he's willing to do. Being wishy washy like that does nothing
 
Def not a fan at all of this. We should either offer alternative or respect Noburi's decisions on what he's willing to do. Being wishy washy like that does nothing
Double checking isn't wishy washy, neither is communicating our concern. What worst-case do you see from doing this? Noburi thinks we're a bit weird?

I might add in some words about tone or revamp the wording but I disagree with you and feel frustrated with the way you chose to communicate your opinion.
 
Double checking isn't wishy washy, neither is communicating our concern. What worst-case do you see from doing this? Noburi thinks we're a bit weird?

I might add in some words about tone or revamp the wording but I disagree with you and feel frustrated with the way you chose to communicate your opinion.

We're basically telling Noburi that we had him meditate for a year to get him on the path to S-rank. Now when he's ready to join us we're telling him to not take his shot. He could def take it as we just want to keep him as a chakra battery. Being only seen for his bloodline and being forced into playing support is one of his major emotional hang ups.

If we offer any alternative plans on how to get him SC I'd be mostly ok with it. But as is it just seems like we're blocking for no good reason

(I actually don't have strong feelings about his plan but I'm not going to argue for or against it)
 
Read the Sealing notes. Explain MARS to Kagome and ask for feedback/ideas (useful tags?) and sanity-check whether you're a good enough sealmaster to pursue this.
Assistance
If another sealmaster is helping you full-time then they may spend a Fate Point to invoke an Aspect and contribute their Aspect bonus to your research roll. You may not benefit from more than one such bonus -- the nature of sealing is such that the difficulties of coordination rapidly outweigh the advantages.

Note that Kagome spending his FP to help Hazou is mutually exclusive to Hazou spending his own FP to invoke Aspects directly related to Kagome's help ("Kagome Looking Over My Shoulder"), but not exclusive to Hazou spending his FP to invoke related but independent Aspects ("Kagome-Certified Sealing Lab").

Since we have the explicit rules for this, could you swap it for:
"Have Prime + 3 SC read Sealing Notes for nine days. Ask Kagome to help with a prepared MARS attempt on day 10."
27 words to 22 words.
...you're sure that you're okay taking on substantial personal risk to get SC, right? We can find another way.
We can offer to sell Asuma a new seal.
 
Can we please add a sanity-check to this? I just see it going so wrong in so many different ways.

Can you add this to your plan?

I have done both of these things.


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I think its time we attempt to progress some necromancy stuff.

[x] Action Plan: Just Hold On, We're On Our Way


  • Beforehand:
    • On second thought Noburi, uh, lets not fuck around with Orochimaru more than absolutely necessary at the moment. Consider that a softly-worded order for the time being.
    • Sanity check with Mari, ask her to fill in for Naruto if he is unwilling.
  • Back when Oro blasted Hazou, he experienced hallucinations of what might have been alternative timelines or possible futures that involved further interaction with Oro.
  • We want Naruto to blast us, so we can try to astral project to Naruto's loved ones in the afterlife dimension.
    • Ideas for getting Naruto on board include things along the lines of:
      • "We've been hit by plenty of Jounin Auras before, and there's something more than meets the eye going on there. Between that and something clan secret, it might be possible to communicate with someone between Paths while under the effects of an Aura. It's farfetched, but trying crazy things that might just work is Goketsu policy. You in? Your connection with Jiraiya might make all the difference."
      • "Hey Naruto, want a free excuse to aura blast me in my stupid face?"
  • In order to maximise dimensional sensitivity, spend a research cycle on MARS, and use SSA to gain a consequence and temporarily reopen Hazou's connection to the Out. Closely examine some dragon parts for good measure.
  • Set up a ritual, possibly including things along the lines of the following:
    • Sitting in a pentagram, where on each star-point is one of Jiraiya's cherished possessions.
    • Wearing the clothes with Jiraiya's blood on them.
    • The bust of Jiraiya.
    • The toad summoning scroll, and/or Toads.
    • Meditating on Jiraiya.
    • Reading a passage from Icha Icha.
    • Subtly requesting aid from Jashin.
    • Activating a Jiraiya's Voice Says Boo Seal as Naruto blasts us.
  • If we succeed in contacting Jiraiya (in order of priority):
    • Emotional reunion.
    • Ask for landmarks we can use to find him.
    • Ask for a code/secret/memory/etc. we can use to at some point later to maybe verify this is real.
    • Recommend he try to gather as many allies (dead QM faves) as possible on his end for when the rescue party gets to him.
    • Request information on other relevant strategic intel needed for the rescue op.
    • Request his expertise on the rift scar.
    • Debrief him on what's been happening in the human and seventh paths, and request advice
  • Sealing:
    • Work on MARS.
 
FOOM XP for Chapter 512

Base XP: 4 3

Akane: 59 Resolve -> 1.8x * 4 3 = 7.2 5.4 FOOM XP
Hazo: 44 Resolve -> 1.3x * 4 3 = 5.2 3.9 FOOM XP
Kei: 60 Resolve -> 1.8x reduced by .4 due to Snowflake -> 1.4x * 4 3 = 5.6 4.2 FOOM XP

@eaglejarl Akane and Kei have enough Pangolin XP to autolevel Physique.

FOOM XP for Chapter 513

Base XP: 45

Akane: 59 Resolve -> 1.8x * 45 = 81 FOOM XP
Hazo: 44 Resolve -> 1.3x * 45 = 58.5 FOOM XP
Kei: 60 Resolve -> 1.8x reduced by .4 due to Snowflake -> 1.4x * 45 = 63 FOOM XP
@Velorien @eaglejarl
I don't think these values were added to the character sheets. Also...

FOOM XP for Chapter 514

Base XP: 3

Akane: 60 Resolve -> 1.8x * 3 = 5.4 FOOM XP
Hazo: 44 Resolve -> 1.3x * 3 = 3.9 FOOM XP
Kei: 60 Resolve -> 1.8x reduced by .4 due to Snowflake -> 1.4x * 3 = 4.2 FOOM XP
 
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We could also try a no-prep research roll on a much easier seal, like Disposal Seals (storage seals broken to shunt their contents into the Out instead of unstoring them). That way we could do everything in a single day.
 
while Kei would probably respond to cheating by spiralling down into a deep well of self-loathing,
How would cheating even work? Don't tell me Kei practices some kind of semi-open relationship with her two primary partners, where neither is allowed to allow others into their heart while she is spreading hers wide open. I guess cheating would be if either break her trust in a romantic/sexual fashion. But the most hurtful examples that come to mind would seem to be their behavior towards her directly.
but I was actually talking about the latest 'research' he's published in order to fix Snowflake being a living OPSEC crisis.
What's meant by this? How is she a living OPSEC crisis?
We want Naruto to blast us, so we can try to astral project to Naruto's loved ones in the afterlife dimension.
  • Ideas for getting Naruto on board include things along the lines of:
    • "We've been hit by plenty of Jounin Auras before, and there's something more than meets the eye going on there. Between that and something clan secret, it might be possible to communicate with someone between Paths while under the effects of an Aura. It's farfetched, but trying crazy things that might just work is Goketsu policy. You in? Your connection with Jiraiya might make all the difference."
I missed the discussion. Where is any of this coming from?
 
I don't suppose you would be willing to change this part to
"Have Prime + 3 SC read Sealing Notes for nine days. Ask Kagome to help with a prepared MARS attempt on day 10."
Or some condensed version of that. And uh, making it a 10 day plan.
That sounds outside the scope of the plan, but if @Inferno Vulpix and @Cariyaga don't mind, then maybe.
I missed the discussion. Where is any of this coming from?
I'm attempting to score a win for the Necromancy Party before midterm elections so that we can hopefully pick up enough seats in the thread to allow the playerbase to have fun again.

(This is somewhat satirically worded, but only somewhat).
 
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How would cheating even work? Don't tell me Kei practices some kind of semi-open relationship with her two primary partners, where neither is allowed to allow others into their heart while she is spreading hers wide open. I guess cheating would be if either break her trust in a romantic/sexual fashion. But the most hurtful examples that come to mind would seem to be their behavior towards her directly.
That highlighted part, yes. Cheating in poly (or, indeed, in mono) relationships is in no way more complicated than that.
 
[X] Training Plan - Hazo: Paper's Path
CR 26 -> 27 = 54 XP
This makes FOOM more chakra efficient, which is of...questionable use, considering the total amount of Chakra we're buying, but so be it!

Akane is missing something like 80 XP for the next FOOM step.

Kei is missing ~270 XP to get Snowflake up the whole day.

Noburi is still chugging along to Earth Element.
 
I don't suppose you would be willing to change this part to
"Have Prime + 3 SC read Sealing Notes for nine days. Ask Kagome to help with a prepared MARS attempt on day 10."
Or some condensed version of that. And uh, making it a 10 day plan.
How is this:
Sealing(do for enough time to make up about 10ish days)
  • Work on MARS.
    • One research roll
    • Use standard research SOP. Collaborate with Kagome.
  • Afterwards, spend remaining time with 3 SC + Prime going over Sealing notes from Jiraiya's horde.
 
That highlighted part, yes. Cheating in poly (or, indeed, in mono) relationships is in no way more complicated than that.
I guess I had a hard time connecting the cheating scenarios for Yuno and Kei in Hazō's mind. What Yuno fears and would feel insecure and inadequate about is (I think) so different from what Kei would fear. Shikamaru or Tenten looking at, flirting with or even having sex with some stranger without telling Kei, while potentially still wrong and hurtful, would be so in a very different way. Namely because they would either not have trusted her enough to share this part of their life with her even though she expected (or they said) that they would, or not have respected her enough to care about her obviously resulting pain (given that she knows that they are intelligent enough to recognize how she would feel). Any sense of inferiority would be based on her thinking she did something to deserve it, but be less about comparing herself to whatever stranger was involved. And the act itself (ogling, flirting, intimacy, sex or whatever) would, if I read Kei correctly, be much less important to her than the fact that they kept secrets or broke mutually established rules or whatever else along those lines.

In Yuno's case while the ultimate reason for these feelings might still be the same deep down (inferiority complex and fear of inevitably losing the love that currently exists), consciously the acts themselves matter much more and the established communication or relationship rules are not what she would see as the main issue. That's especially evident by how she acts upon the involved third party strangers.

... I'm not quite sure what I'm trying to say. I guess something along the lines of while I am well aware that cheating in general is perfectly possible in poly relationships, my (poorly worded) incredulity was more about how Hazō drew parallels between the two and the comparable reactions they'd have on being cheated on. I just see someone hurting Kei that way as being in a different context because it requires more than her partner just seeking sexual interaction not involving her. It requires willful and needles deception towards her as a person.

Do I make sense? It's late and maybe I shouldn't be posting after a couple of beer.
 
[x] Action Plan: Just Hold On, We're On Our Way

If we do this, and Jiraiya's [already] lost his memories of us, I will be very sad.
 
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