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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Oneiros said:
Are people opposed if I add giving Asuma all the info we have on the Kraken scroll.l? I think it's really important that we don't waste this opportunity to get more allies for DRAGONWAR
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I support this.

(Is it just me or SV's "Your message is mostly quotes or spoilers" pestering became even more frequent? It's getting really fucking annoying.)
 
Oneiros said:
Are people opposed if I add giving Asuma all the info we have on the Kraken scroll.l? I think it's really important that we don't waste this opportunity to get more allies for DRAGONWAR
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I believe he was in the room when we received all the info we have on the Kraken scroll. I wouldn't be opposed to mentioning it though, e.g:

  • (offscreen)
    • Remind Asuma that the Kraken Scroll may be in Lightning -- potential target?
 
Paperclipped said:
I believe he was in the room when we received all the info we have on the Kraken scroll.
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He was in the room when Enma told us about a small town in Lightning that the Summoner was last seen in, but we have Lightning Yak contacts, informants, safehouses, and the name and location of the town, so we would almost certainly be giving him more than he had
 
Paperclipped said:
@eaglejarl Do you like writing Yuno?
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I'm fine with her. She's in the same bucket as most other characters, including Asuma, Hinata, Kiba, Hana, etc -- no strong feeling either way.
FaintlySorcerous said:
is the format unimportant as long as there's both separation of the two plans and the intended coupling is obvious?
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Doesn't matter as long as it's clear. Someone had a plan where they put the link in the title and the Ami content in the plan -- that's a fine solution as it doesn't count against words.
 
eaglejarl said:
Lightning (Kraken): Yakuza contacts (thank you, Jiraiy's notes), blah blah merchant names and locations, very basic map, blah blah
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eaglejarl said:
The Kraken Scroll was also a good option. Jiraiya's notes included contact information for several mid-level Yakuza throughout the Land of Lightning, as well as an assortment of farmers, charcoalers, tanners, and other ruralites who would give shelter, a meal, and a bit of gossip to the occasional passing traveler. Not agents per se, but they provided an easy way to get from point A to point B discreetly and gather some minimal intel on the way. There was also a map and the Gōketsu were satisfied that they'd identified the village wherein the previous Kraken Summoner had lived.
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Relevant quotes for eaglejarl to use regarding Goketsu Intel specifically
 
A weird part of me wants to just dodge the topic, tell Mari that Ami's here, and to let her deal with it.

It'll probably end badly, but at least it'll happen sometime later.
 
Noumero said:
If a trainwrech has to happen, don't you at least want to have the pleasure of watching it unfold up close?

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Indeed. Imagine Mari going up to you the next day and going, "By the way, I saw Ami. We had a heated moral debate, then a vicious many-layered battle of minds, then a jōnin fight where we used all our trump cards, and finally we made a deal with mindbogglingly complicated terms, and went off to do things your young mind isn't ready to hear about" as opposed to seeing it happen in an interlude.
 
@Oneiros

  • Talk about the Leopards
  • Also their summoners (old and new)
Maybe that's better? To get information on both topics, the Leopards as people and who their allies might be. Still 10 words.
 
I think "Talk about Leopards" will result in something like:

Hazou: "How about them Leopards?"
Cannai: "What about the Leopards?"
Hazou: shrug
 
Noumero said:
Thank you, @faflec, for reminding me of the idea, and you, @OliWhail, for conceiving of it to begin with.

[x] Ami Plan: When in Doubt, Go Meta
Word count: <400
Humour index: 30%
  • (After Ami, follow this plan.)
  • Ask Ami to optimize your approach to the next topic, ensuring it works even given that she helped optimize it.
    • Spend the favour token, if necessary.
    • If Ami refuses, try Door-in-the-Face, then Pragmatic, then Adversarial.
    • Avoid mentioning IN and Asuma's inability to control Orochimaru.
  • Subject: Suppose there was news that might induce anger and counterproductive desires in Ami. How should you convey it to minimize such outcomes?
  • Approaches:
    • Door-in-the-Face: Start by conveying the situation's emotional truth and the sanctions taken to avoid its recurrence.
      • Conceit: Lead with the emotional impact so Ami knows what to expect, preparing her to process it constructively. Then frame it as already "settled", requiring no further action.
      • Con: Might prime her to view it in the worst light.
      • (Clarification: "Sanctions" mean Kei cutting ties with Mari. "Emotional truth" is Kei feeling that Mari sacrificed her for Hazou.)
    • Foot-in-the-Door: Chronological description that ends by focusing on the sanctions, vividly describing their effect.
      • Conceit: Provide Ami the experience of righteous justice and catharsis vicariously — no need for active action.
      • Con: Ami might consider the sanctions insufficient — bad combination with ending on an emotional high.
    • Factual: Recount the events objectively, without opining.
      • Conceit: Trusting Ami to act fairly and constructively.
      • Con: Ami's "fairness" might disagree with yours.
    • Empathetic: Draw parallels between the situation and some of Ami's actions.
      • Con: Ami might disagree with the parallels, or refuse to care about so-called "hypocrisy".
      • (Clarification: Hazou might be to Mari what Kei is to Ami. Also, Ami invented the FGP and lets Kichi manipulate people into it, all to escape Oro.)
    • Pragmatic: Detail how counterproductive acting on the initial desires would be. Pivot to discussing constructive responses.
      • Cons: Ami might consider the counterproductive actions necessary.
    • Bargaining: Present your best-light interpretation of the situation.
      • Con: You expect Ami to disagree.
      • (Clarification: Mari did her best to save everyone, and it did work. Also: Oro might've learned of Snowflake independently later; this way, you at least had forewarning.)
    • Adversarial: Promise to take sanctions against Ami should she act on her desires, and/or ask to stay her hand, for a favour.
      • Con: Damages your relationship with Ami/indebts you.
      • (Clarification: "Sanctions" might range from refusing to cooperate with her projects to actively obstructing them to withholding FOOM to broadly damaging her in-Leaf position.)
    • Distracting: Stage a novel major crisis, leaving everyone too preoccupied for (this) drama.

@Velorien, does that meta-approach sound particularly entertaining to you?
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To clarify, are the approaches things that you suggest to Ami? If so, is that the order you want to present them in?
 
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