[x] MfD kitten: Mewramasa
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I woke up too late to include this but has not been forgotten - I think it's a worthwhile inclusion even if it doesn't bear fruit.
- Location
- Europe
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[x] MfD kitten: Sammy
[x] MfD kitten: Explosives
[x] MfD kitten: Explosives
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
[x] MfD kitten: Mewramasa
[x] MfD kitten: Sammy
[x] MfD kitten: Sammy
- Location
- London
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
[x] MfD kitten: Katgome
Emstar
The Shining One
- Location
- Trapped in an extradimensional rift.
- Pronouns
- She/They
"Oh wow thats a sweet name, I should vote for that--"
EJ: Voting is closed.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2x NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO combo!
- Location
- The Soviet Republic of Canuckistan
- Pronouns
- He/Him
My last plan was "Cry havoc" so this was inevitable.
(And intentional.)
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- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
That is a statement for divergence between timeflow. But when measured purely on the 7th Path, how long is their day-night cycle? Not asking for munchkinry purposes. Just for world-building and immersion purposes.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
- Location
- London
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
... How DO we measure time? Do clocks exist?
This is really interesting, because it's completely impossible for most astronomical bodies. Planets or large moons that get their day/night cycle from rotating have very regular periods of rotation. But the Seventh Path could be on a body undergoing chaotic rotation which is usually seen on small nonspherical moons in complex systems of orbiting bodies like Saturn's moon Hyperion. It wouldn't be a very chaotic orbit, because the change from day to day is small. Does this have any impact on the quest? Probably not.
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
So their cycle is variable for them as well? At random?
I thought it was time itself that varied, as in one hour there wouldn't always be one hour in the Human Path. Is that also true or is it just the actual day cycle that varies?
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Everyone, please repeat after me: "Oh, the days vary slightly but are typically a bit longer than those on the Human Path? What an interesting bit of worldbuilding our brilliant QMs have created. Having offered up this mild bit of sycophancy, let's make the very safe assumption that it will never have any impact on the universe except as an interesting bit of flavor, and then let's go think about something else. Making nukes, dating Ino, having another evening with Ami, or almost literally anything else."
(And yes, I recognize that this is not the best look when @Sir Stompy has just finished complimenting us on our commitment to simulationism, but there's a limit. I'm drawing the line at keeping things consistent across different calendars and/or day/night cycles.)
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- Location
- Book Fort
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Okay, it's almost 2am, I've reached the level of exhaustion where my brain is mush, but my headache is still keeping me awake. Know what that means? (Well, it means that I'm borrowing from tomorrow's spoon drawer, but in this case it also means...)
A (slightly delayed) REACTION POST:
I like this. Sure, it's references the mechanics that're inherent within the quest, but it also shows that Hazou-as-a-person recognizes the importance of this discussion. He knows that he is at a crossroads with two possible directions, and a thousand different outcomes for both of them. And he's also showing that he's aware of the comfort within complacency. That it might be better to back off, and desist from this conversation. But Hazou-the-character is polyamorous, and may simply not be able to comfortably exist within a strictly monogamous relationship.
I also think it's a little amusing that Hazou's both resignedly accepting and also very much not surprised by this quest.
This reads to me as Hazou psyching himself up, as building up the courage to tell Akane what he wants. It's the first step on a new path, one that they've tried to take before. But things are different (they're older and wiser, they've communicated their expectations for this relationship, and Hazou has turned away from the Orochimaru Path) and Hazou wants this. So Hazou takes a stroll through the trenches of his own mind, reminding himself of all the good reasons to be brave, to be bold. So he's giving himself the mother of all pep talks (and what a lovely pep talk it is) so that he has the courage to take that all-important first step.
*Raises fist in the air*
Woo! Ship sailed!!!!
(Ino pending on-screen agreement, of course. Shouldn't make assumptions...)
There's no better anchor than one whom you love. The light of their eyes, the resonant giggle of their laugh that stops your heart in its tracks, their eyes aglow with mirth and loving amusement? It's a heady, warm anchor that centers you in the here and now, dispelling all manner of anxious fears and cloying trepidation.
The way it seems to wrap around your mind, filling your senses until all the world has become but the two of you here in that moment. You're a lovely writer, Vel, and you manage to encapsulate such feelings with an envious ease (seriously, I need several lines of idle, flowery language to brush against what you capture with a single sentence).
...Is anyone else getting death flags from this scene? Especially judging from the name of this chapter.
I am now deathly concerned for all of the Goketsu.
Hm. On one hand, I want to say that the visitor's room is different from the clan's room in that maybe there are spyholes --after all: ninja. But I'm also wondering if I'm overthinking things and that the clan one simply has more thorough opsec methods that are clan secrets? I also love that the Nara's overall Thinker Affliction (apathy/laconic) carries over to their interior decoration.
Actually, I am struck by a thought. The Mori clan have a vast well of information/computing power to draw upon via their bloodline, but also suffer from the Mori Voice calling them to lose themselves in a mystically-inflected nihlism that leaves them in a sort of waking coma. Further, the Mori Clan are also afflicted by a lack of agency on a fundamental level (always advisors, never Kage) in a manner that we don't really understand.
Wasn't there also a Thinker Clan that could dream up horrible engines of war but never had the energy to ever put such thoughts down to paper/vocalize/implement them? That sure sounds like an increased version of that same apathy/agency thing that the Mori suffer. And we know that the Sage apparently designed Bloodlines to serve a purpose. What if the Thinker Clans were all iterations of the same goal? And the Nara (very intelligent, lowest apparent drawback) are the most successful/least unsuccessful product of that experimentation?
I mean, they may not have the vast computing power of Keiko's bloodline, but they've also retained their agency and don't suffer from the Mori Voice.
Foot, meet mouth.
I love that Hazou actually seemed to consider asking Keiko for advice about polyamory. x3
Ah, the lovely sniping of brother-sister relationships. Bicker and tease and poke fun, but the moment someone hurts the other, it's to war we go.
Hm, so Keiko isn't aware of it... but then again, Keiko was an overrlooked, dismissed genin before defection, so it makes sense that she wouldn't know about the Mori's forbidden lore. I'm struck by the idle urge to go ask Ami if she knows more. On one hand, she seems to have broken up with Hazou. On the other hand, we're still Keiko's brother and about to go fight an existential threat... might be worth it?
We could send a Shadow Clone and extend these few hours even more, that way EJ doesn't have to write it and it could be covered by Velorien. But that also strikes me as a bit rude, trying to extend these few hours into a several chapters, all for the goal of just one scene. Eh, should probably write the opportunity off for the lost opportunity that it is... Or we could ask Ami during a resupply?
Well. Keiko didn't immediately kill Hazou. But she also went to Shika. On one hand, Shika probably has more Lore in his head than Keiko does. On the other hand, Shika isn't exactly under any obligation to share it. The FF-Illuminati may not be our friends (though Ami's offhand comments seem to imply they're more concerned with keeping the Painted World existing despite Outer Threats rather than something that might just turn out to be a chakra beast or a plague on the 7th Path.)
Shikamaru is being unusually animated... He definitely knows about the Gaki, but doesn't think the situation is dire enough to tell Hazou much about them (other than public knowledge) just yet.
...Maye it's because I'm tired, but this reads to me as "let me know if I have to kill you and ensure that all future Dog Summoners are Nara."
Which, given the possible opsec violation, the fact that Shikamaru hasn't killed Hazou as a matter of principle is probably a sign of Shikamaru's brotherly affection for Hazou.
Okay, so we know that the Dogs have life enough to hunt, and that the Pangolins eat ants. We also know that dead things decay on the 7th Path. So we know there's microbial life, and that a plague is... possible.
But for an entire segment of the mysterious, deadly 7th Path to be crippled by something as mundane as disease? Actually, given the state of the world, I guess that's entirely possible. I guess not every threat has to be a Kajuu or interdimensional invaders.
This... could just be trauma from fighting the Condor Boss. But I think Keiko knows/remembers something about the Gaki in this moment. Or, perhaps, she's realized that Shikamaru knows something and isn't saying.
I'm seeing death flags everywhere and I am terrified about this new arc.
So Keiko believes that this is the Gaki and that the Gaki are dangerous. That the Gaki has slipped their leash, escaped their prison, and are on a rampage.
Is it too late to have seals that mess with the boundaries between paths? Because those sound useful right now. Like... the kind of thing that would be useful in putting the Gaki into a new prison.
Hazou, I think you're getting caught on the surface-level conversati...
JESUS HELL, IS THIS WHAT AMI FEELS LIKE AROUND US????
I think Keiko has skipped the premature grieving process and jumped all the way to premature anger over Hazou's hypothetical death...
That said, it's a little endearing to see Keiko loves Hazou so much, even after all of the shit we've done.
Huh. For some reason I pictured scrolls as more important to the Leaf as a whole --especially right now, when things are fragile. But I guess that most Summoners are already pretty powerful, and that Scrolls are the property/resonsibilty of the Clan who owns it. I'm not sure why I thought that the Leaf would be more invested in her Summoners' contractual duties (more firepower at hand and all that) but I guess it's just a matter of the Clan/Kage responsibility divide.
And Leaf is providing supplies and whatnot to help facilitate a good relationship between the two. And Asuma is invested in turning the Hagoromo and the Goketsu into uneasy allies (rather than the barely-restrained enemies that we currently are), so Asuma likely finds himself in the unenviable position of siding with the Hag. After all, he's the one who has to get us to get along, and his idea of that was to humanize the both of us in each other's eyes (and that's not a bad idea, even as much as I loathe the idea).
Do we have timed explosions? We could attach explosives and render it to ashes via Kagome-level Explosives as we leave. Or have Cantelope use his artillery jutsu to do the same? I'm not sure how we could keep it a secret, other than generous applications of Kagome's First Rule.
...Wait, rumors?
Okay, so now we absolutely have to include this part in the next action plan. Precommitting votes now (Future-Me can be upset later, because 2am-Me is absolutely dying to know!)
Obviously the Nara are the only sane ones. Hazou thinks he hates paperwork now? Just wait.
So the Gaki are some type of energy-eaters? Explosions release energy, and the Gaki eat that? And if they eat energy itself, then it makes sense that they'd be as feared as they are. They'd destroy everything... Okay, yeah, I'm worried about this new arc. Pants officially browned.
A (slightly delayed) REACTION POST:
I like this. Sure, it's references the mechanics that're inherent within the quest, but it also shows that Hazou-as-a-person recognizes the importance of this discussion. He knows that he is at a crossroads with two possible directions, and a thousand different outcomes for both of them. And he's also showing that he's aware of the comfort within complacency. That it might be better to back off, and desist from this conversation. But Hazou-the-character is polyamorous, and may simply not be able to comfortably exist within a strictly monogamous relationship.
I also think it's a little amusing that Hazou's both resignedly accepting and also very much not surprised by this quest.
This reads to me as Hazou psyching himself up, as building up the courage to tell Akane what he wants. It's the first step on a new path, one that they've tried to take before. But things are different (they're older and wiser, they've communicated their expectations for this relationship, and Hazou has turned away from the Orochimaru Path) and Hazou wants this. So Hazou takes a stroll through the trenches of his own mind, reminding himself of all the good reasons to be brave, to be bold. So he's giving himself the mother of all pep talks (and what a lovely pep talk it is) so that he has the courage to take that all-important first step.
*Raises fist in the air*
Woo! Ship sailed!!!!
(Ino pending on-screen agreement, of course. Shouldn't make assumptions...)
There's no better anchor than one whom you love. The light of their eyes, the resonant giggle of their laugh that stops your heart in its tracks, their eyes aglow with mirth and loving amusement? It's a heady, warm anchor that centers you in the here and now, dispelling all manner of anxious fears and cloying trepidation.
The way it seems to wrap around your mind, filling your senses until all the world has become but the two of you here in that moment. You're a lovely writer, Vel, and you manage to encapsulate such feelings with an envious ease (seriously, I need several lines of idle, flowery language to brush against what you capture with a single sentence).
...Is anyone else getting death flags from this scene? Especially judging from the name of this chapter.
I am now deathly concerned for all of the Goketsu.
Hm. On one hand, I want to say that the visitor's room is different from the clan's room in that maybe there are spyholes --after all: ninja. But I'm also wondering if I'm overthinking things and that the clan one simply has more thorough opsec methods that are clan secrets? I also love that the Nara's overall Thinker Affliction (apathy/laconic) carries over to their interior decoration.
Actually, I am struck by a thought. The Mori clan have a vast well of information/computing power to draw upon via their bloodline, but also suffer from the Mori Voice calling them to lose themselves in a mystically-inflected nihlism that leaves them in a sort of waking coma. Further, the Mori Clan are also afflicted by a lack of agency on a fundamental level (always advisors, never Kage) in a manner that we don't really understand.
Wasn't there also a Thinker Clan that could dream up horrible engines of war but never had the energy to ever put such thoughts down to paper/vocalize/implement them? That sure sounds like an increased version of that same apathy/agency thing that the Mori suffer. And we know that the Sage apparently designed Bloodlines to serve a purpose. What if the Thinker Clans were all iterations of the same goal? And the Nara (very intelligent, lowest apparent drawback) are the most successful/least unsuccessful product of that experimentation?
I mean, they may not have the vast computing power of Keiko's bloodline, but they've also retained their agency and don't suffer from the Mori Voice.
Foot, meet mouth.
I love that Hazou actually seemed to consider asking Keiko for advice about polyamory. x3
Ah, the lovely sniping of brother-sister relationships. Bicker and tease and poke fun, but the moment someone hurts the other, it's to war we go.
Hm, so Keiko isn't aware of it... but then again, Keiko was an overrlooked, dismissed genin before defection, so it makes sense that she wouldn't know about the Mori's forbidden lore. I'm struck by the idle urge to go ask Ami if she knows more. On one hand, she seems to have broken up with Hazou. On the other hand, we're still Keiko's brother and about to go fight an existential threat... might be worth it?
We could send a Shadow Clone and extend these few hours even more, that way EJ doesn't have to write it and it could be covered by Velorien. But that also strikes me as a bit rude, trying to extend these few hours into a several chapters, all for the goal of just one scene. Eh, should probably write the opportunity off for the lost opportunity that it is... Or we could ask Ami during a resupply?
Well. Keiko didn't immediately kill Hazou. But she also went to Shika. On one hand, Shika probably has more Lore in his head than Keiko does. On the other hand, Shika isn't exactly under any obligation to share it. The FF-Illuminati may not be our friends (though Ami's offhand comments seem to imply they're more concerned with keeping the Painted World existing despite Outer Threats rather than something that might just turn out to be a chakra beast or a plague on the 7th Path.)
Shikamaru is being unusually animated... He definitely knows about the Gaki, but doesn't think the situation is dire enough to tell Hazou much about them (other than public knowledge) just yet.
...Maye it's because I'm tired, but this reads to me as "let me know if I have to kill you and ensure that all future Dog Summoners are Nara."
Which, given the possible opsec violation, the fact that Shikamaru hasn't killed Hazou as a matter of principle is probably a sign of Shikamaru's brotherly affection for Hazou.
Okay, so we know that the Dogs have life enough to hunt, and that the Pangolins eat ants. We also know that dead things decay on the 7th Path. So we know there's microbial life, and that a plague is... possible.
But for an entire segment of the mysterious, deadly 7th Path to be crippled by something as mundane as disease? Actually, given the state of the world, I guess that's entirely possible. I guess not every threat has to be a Kajuu or interdimensional invaders.
This... could just be trauma from fighting the Condor Boss. But I think Keiko knows/remembers something about the Gaki in this moment. Or, perhaps, she's realized that Shikamaru knows something and isn't saying.
I'm seeing death flags everywhere and I am terrified about this new arc.
So Keiko believes that this is the Gaki and that the Gaki are dangerous. That the Gaki has slipped their leash, escaped their prison, and are on a rampage.
Is it too late to have seals that mess with the boundaries between paths? Because those sound useful right now. Like... the kind of thing that would be useful in putting the Gaki into a new prison.
Hazou, I think you're getting caught on the surface-level conversati...
JESUS HELL, IS THIS WHAT AMI FEELS LIKE AROUND US????
I think Keiko has skipped the premature grieving process and jumped all the way to premature anger over Hazou's hypothetical death...
That said, it's a little endearing to see Keiko loves Hazou so much, even after all of the shit we've done.
Huh. For some reason I pictured scrolls as more important to the Leaf as a whole --especially right now, when things are fragile. But I guess that most Summoners are already pretty powerful, and that Scrolls are the property/resonsibilty of the Clan who owns it. I'm not sure why I thought that the Leaf would be more invested in her Summoners' contractual duties (more firepower at hand and all that) but I guess it's just a matter of the Clan/Kage responsibility divide.
And Leaf is providing supplies and whatnot to help facilitate a good relationship between the two. And Asuma is invested in turning the Hagoromo and the Goketsu into uneasy allies (rather than the barely-restrained enemies that we currently are), so Asuma likely finds himself in the unenviable position of siding with the Hag. After all, he's the one who has to get us to get along, and his idea of that was to humanize the both of us in each other's eyes (and that's not a bad idea, even as much as I loathe the idea).
Do we have timed explosions? We could attach explosives and render it to ashes via Kagome-level Explosives as we leave. Or have Cantelope use his artillery jutsu to do the same? I'm not sure how we could keep it a secret, other than generous applications of Kagome's First Rule.
...Wait, rumors?
Okay, so now we absolutely have to include this part in the next action plan. Precommitting votes now (Future-Me can be upset later, because 2am-Me is absolutely dying to know!)
Obviously the Nara are the only sane ones. Hazou thinks he hates paperwork now? Just wait.
So the Gaki are some type of energy-eaters? Explosions release energy, and the Gaki eat that? And if they eat energy itself, then it makes sense that they'd be as feared as they are. They'd destroy everything... Okay, yeah, I'm worried about this new arc. Pants officially browned.
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- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
All I wanted was "Day-night cycle varies randomly, not timeflow" or "Day-night cycle and interdimensional timeflow both vary" or "something weirder might be going on".
- Location
- France
Rumors we won't be seeing on-screen for years, because they're probably about the sex lives of the clan with the orgies and the characters involved are minors.
This is a good thing and IMO we shouldn't be asking for more details.