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When was this? And not pure Uplift Agent, Uplift Agent circumvention.

"Next is you go capture some hostile ninja."

Naruto Clotheshorse, S-rank ninja of the Village Hidden in the Leaves, blinked.

"I what?"

Hazō met the other ninja's eyes, pushing every trace of sincerity that he could muster. He had yet to master the 'killing intent' power of more senior ninja; he could not force his will upon reality and make the world seem colder or full of demons. Nonetheless, his seriousness burned on his face.

"They are my family," he said calmly. "They will not die. Period. I lost my father when I was five, I lost all the friends I had in Hidden Swamp, I lost my mother to exile, I lost Jiraiya, I lost who Mari used to be. I am not losing anyone else. You can help, or you can get the fuck out of my way."

Naruto Clotheshorse studied him for a moment. "Let's be clear about something," he said at last, his voice very calm and remote. "These threats that you keep throwing around? They're cute. Really. I appreciate how much you care about everyone, I admire your ability to function as a decisive leader, and I understand how much stress you're under right now. That said, you're a newly-frocked chūnin and I'm the jinchūriki of the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox. I have 'flee on sight' orders in three separate bingo books and I used to hold my own against people like Maito Gai, Hatake Kakashi, and Jiraiya of the Sannin. Confidence is a good trait in a ninja, but a proper appreciation of reality is also important."

All the emotions Hazō had been struggling to suppress—the fear for his teacher and his friend/ex-girlfriend/clan sister/???, the incipient panic that he wouldn't be able to save them, the otherworldly jangling that sang through his nerves after his encounters with the 'voice' of the blotch—coalesced and changed. They ceased to be separate things moving in different directions and forged themselves into a unity, a spear raised against the world and surrounded only by ice and purpose. He stepped forward into Naruto Clotheshorse's space, leaving them almost chest to chest, and locked his eyes on those of his target.

"Threats?" he asked quietly. "You think those were threats? Those were promises, Naruto. I know what I'm going to do: Save my family, even if the world burns. What about you? Will you stand back and allow Leaf-nin to die when you maybe could save them? Will you kill me, the Clan Head of Jiraiya's clan? Is that the Will of Fire that you care so much about? What would Gai say, if he were here? Jiraiya? The Third?"

Clotheshorse met his eyes for a moment, then looked away. "Okay," he said. "Fine. I'm in, but I'm not going to start a war to do it." His lip twitched for a moment in something vaguely akin to a smile. "For the record, Jiraiya would say: Don't start a war, even if that means they die."

"Yeah, well, I'm not Jiraiya."

Clotheshorse chuckled. "No, you're—oh, hang on. Just got an update. We captured a bristleback. Plenty big enough to take the...you called it 'the Blotch'? Well, this thing can definitely take it. We're still looking for something better, though. Bristlebacks don't emit active chakra, so they might not be able to bait the thing onto themselves. We're still looking for a zaprat or something like that."

Hazō blinked. "Naruto, you're a genius. Pack your gear, we're headed north." He turned and dashed off back to camp.

Unprompted by the Hivemind, i would add. I mean, if Hazou was willing to put Uplift efficency above everything, he would already sold his family to Orochimaru to become his apprentice, that is the most efficient way to expend resources.
 
Combine that with the fact thatthis community is so damned accepting, patient, and kind, and I find that I don't feel as anxious as I sometimes do in RL (seriously, the CCnJ hits a bit close to home, lol).

Ami's face? More like Shikaku(.jpg)


Going off of this, I have seen benefits in my personal life as communication has moved to mostly text. It's a lot easier to think things over and really fine-tune the meaning of things. Word choice is important!

And absolutely with this thread - it's very nice to disagree with someone and not end up in a personal argument.

Agreed. It's been a very positive experience (minus my first couple posts where the thread speed was fast enough to make my posts obsolete and therefore seem dumb and when called out on it rather than explain myself I sunk back into Lurker mode for a couple months) overall. Related to that and Random's post, I've outright explained CCnJ to half a dozen people (and wasn't explaining the origin to one of them just hilarious), and use it in conversation. 2 picked up on me using it subconsciously in difficult conversations afterwards when we were debriefing/it was over. I too felt it hit close to home, though for me it's because I was already defaulting to something similar in emotionally stressful or complex situations.
 
Yes he has more depth of character than a pure Uplift Agent but I see the Uplift Agent parts of him as basically being an override or circumvention of all of that. He'll feel anguish as he betrays his Blood but he'll rip them out and discard them all like a Breath of air if necessary

*Shrug*
Then we just have a simple disagreement about Hazou's characterization. That's fine, it's perfectly okay for us to have different mental images of Hazou's priorities. Besides, towards the first half of quest's story, I'd even agree that that was the direction Hazou seemed to be going towards.

If it wasn't for the fact that some children were the Unfavorite we'd never have gotten someone like Zuko.

On the other hand, we'd also have characters like Azula (who was Ursa's least favorite, and only received positive attention from Ozai, who encouraged Azula's worst tendencies). I won't go on too much (seriously, I've literally written entire essays about This and could go in for hours) but I believe that Azula was just Zuko without Ursa or Iroh.
 
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Unprompted by the Hivemind, i would add. I mean, if Hazou was willing to put Uplift efficency above everything, he would already sold his family to Orochimaru to become his apprentice, that is the most efficient way to expend resources.

NB: I literally put "Go capture some hostile ninja." in the plan and you could argue that most of the wording of it in its entirety + the thread discussion more or less primed this response.
 
NB: I literally put "Go capture some hostile ninja." in the plan and you could argue that most of the wording of it in its entirety + the thread discussion more or less primed this response.
I feel that the thread discussion, even if not explicitly in the plan, is often taken into account when writing the update. I think that's really cool, in that it both allows us grace with ambiguous wording and also that it goes from our motivations for what is written in the plan.

Also QM's, I really appreciate the update. One of my favorite things about this quest is that while things are often very hard and we have to go through significant effort to accomplish our goals, nothing feels impossible, and when we succeed (I would call our current Akane situation a success), it feels like an achievement because of the work it took to get there. That's a pretty delicate scale to find a balance on.
 
So... Provided we only have one adoption tag and can't get more (although we should definitely at least try to get some more), who should we adopt? Because (provided Noburi doesn't have any updated info) I'm personally torn between Lee, Sakura, and the gennin kid from that one chapter (in that order).

What do you guys think?
 
So... Provided we only have one adoption tag and can't get more (although we should definitely at least try to get some more), who should we adopt? Because (provided Noburi doesn't have any updated info) I'm personally torn between Lee, Sakura, and the gennin kid from that one chapter (in that order).

What do you guys think?
Noda is the top choice from my perspective
 
So... Provided we only have one adoption tag and can't get more (although we should definitely at least try to get some more), who should we adopt? Because (provided Noburi doesn't have any updated info) I'm personally torn between Lee, Sakura, and the gennin kid from that one chapter (in that order).

What do you guys think?

I've been told we have already precommitted to picking Yuno. I personally want Sakura most, but I think we should probably go with Reo or Atomu first. They earned it, and I would feel bad if we didn't pick them first.

Also, I still think consulting the rest of the Goketsu would be a fun scene that should be included after the mine.
 
I've been told we have already precommitted to picking Yuno. I personally want Sakura most, but I think we should probably go with Reo or Atomu first. They earned it, and I would feel bad if we didn't pick them first.

Also, I still think consulting the rest of the Goketsu would be a fun scene that should be included after the mine.

I'd completely forgotten that we were adopting Yuno... But that sounds like something I'd vote for anyway. Once she's adopted, she'll get more screentime ^.^

And I'd be okay with that scene, especially if we go out of our way to include Keiko in that conversation.
 
I'd completely forgotten that we were adopting Yuno... But that sounds like something I'd vote for anyway. Once she's adopted, she'll get more screentime ^.^

And I'd be okay with that scene, especially if we go out of our way to include Keiko in that conversation.

Personally I don't really care about Yuno but it wouldn't be cool to Noburi if we went back on that without consulting him first
 
Personally I don't really care about Yuno but it wouldn't be cool to Noburi if we went back on that without consulting him first
*Dramatic Gasp*
That's fair, actually. I love most of This quest's side characters so much that it's almost tempting to want an entire story focusing on just them.

"The Memoirs of Mari Goketsu," "Ami Anthology: a Collection of Essays," "The Keiko Chronicles," "The Yuno Diplomacy," "Haru: A Reconciliation." "Kagome's Stinker-Proof Guide to not Blowing Up," "The Reformations of Sasuke Uchiha," and so on...
 
Abaddon, Hazou would look like a narrative mess without his viewers having the context of us.
 
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"You can't escape that, Hazō," Akane said. "Whoever you have a relationship with, when they marry into the clan, they'll be in the same position as me. Maybe not Ino, but I don't know if clan heads can marry each other. At least, it's never happened in Leaf, and there must be reasons for that."

Hazō couldn't help noticing that she said "Ino" rather than "another clan head". He filed it away as potentially very important.
In the midst of another ship trying to pull ahead, a glimmer of hope appears.

No I'm not the villain; I promise. More on this whole Akane-love debacle later if I have time, but I am a bit busy at the moment for the necessary in depth response.

Why do you call me out like this Velorien?
As the old writing adage goes, write what you know.
I can sympathize with that. I'm on the opposite end of that spectrum, where monamory/monogamy is my default and only realm of ease, in terms of relationship-dynamics, but I also have an immense difficulty navigating social norms to the point that I have difficulty making friends. That's part of why I'm so active (arguably to the point of annoyance) on this thread. Not because I feel any romantic affection for you all (no offense.) But rather, because it's through the written word, I can type out my thoughts and then edit the wording for clarity as necessary. Combine that with the fact that this community is so damned accepting, patient, and kind, and I find that I don't feel as anxious as I sometimes do in RL (seriously, the CCnJ hits a bit close to home, lol).

(no, I'm not making jokes out of emotional vulnerability, what?)
Y'all (and anyone else who needs one too) are all getting (consensual, since I'm not a complete monster) noogies once it becomes hygienically acceptable to get within 6 feet (that's roughly 2 meters for the non-freedom(? (it's debatable at the moment)) folk) of each other. It's a wonderful experience that needs to be shared and definitely helps to break the ice with new acquaintances (not recommended for coworkers or your work place environment). It doesn't matter if you're taller than me, shorter than me, older than me, or younger than me; all are equally noogie-able. Nothing else can quite convey the sense of forceful friendship inclusion which is necessary for cracking the nut people like us live in known as our own heads. It's hard to second guess yourself when you have someone's fist rubbing on your skull, but in a good way. Then it's just a matter of engaging in the tried and tested method of social bonding known as 'doing stupid shit with friends'. The key initially is not proving to people that you are not weird, but to find people who like your unique brand of weird. Then you can practice acting normal knowing you have a support base for when you need to remind yourself who you really are. This speech makes more sense when given as you receive a noogie though.

The Noogie(tm): the perfect way to non-verbally express: "You're a dork, but you're OUR dork!"
 
In the midst of another ship trying to pull ahead, a glimmer of hope appears.

No I'm not the villain; I promise. More on this whole Akane-love debacle later if I have time, but I am a bit busy at the moment for the necessary in depth response.




Y'all (and anyone else who needs one too) are all getting (consensual, since I'm not a complete monster) noogies once it becomes hygienically acceptable to get within 6 feet (that's roughly 2 meters for the non-freedom(? (it's debatable at the moment)) folk) of each other. It's a wonderful experience that needs to be shared and definitely helps to break the ice with new acquaintances (not recommended for coworkers or your work place environment). It doesn't matter if you're taller than me, shorter than me, older than me, or younger than me; all are equally noogie-able. Nothing else can quite convey the sense of forceful friendship inclusion which is necessary for cracking the nut people like us live in known as our own heads. It's hard to second guess yourself when you have someone's fist rubbing on your skull, but in a good way. Then it's just a matter of engaging in the tried and tested method of social bonding known as 'doing stupid shit with friends'. The key initially is not proving to people that you are not weird, but to find people who like your unique brand of weird. Then you can practice acting normal knowing you have a support base for when you need to remind yourself who you really are. This speech makes more sense when given as you receive a noogie though.

The Noogie(tm): the perfect way to non-verbally express: "You're a dork, but you're OUR dork!"

I'd like to imagine that this is what having an older brother is like.

(Edit: obligatory "not that I see you as an older brother, just the general tone of that post was aggressively positive and heartfelt and that's what most people seem to agree that older brothers are like")
 
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Except we didn't we wrote a plan to do science.
And you received base XP appropriate to a plan that involves asking a QM seven questions about game mechanics.

To be clear, I enjoyed writing the update, and I thought the concept of combining this kind of research (which can be spoon-heavy) with the spoon flexibility of "write whatever you want" was a good idea. However, it's not going to receive the same kind of reward as a plan that requires actual effort/creativity to write.
 
Except we didn't we wrote a plan to do science.
Edit: if that's the policy it's good to know that we are in fact disincentivized toward giving QMs any freedom
 
Except we didn't we wrote a plan to do science.
Edit: if that's the policy it's good to know that we are in fact disincentivized toward giving QMs any freedom
The plan, in its entirety, reads as follows:
[x] Action Plan: Objectively the Best Plan So Far
Word count: 101
  • Test clone jutsu interactions.
    • Could an Earth Clone cast Earth Clone? If yes, is the second-order clone similar to the first-order clone in abilities (a weaker version of Hazou), or is it a weaker version of the first-order clone?
      • Could an Earth Clone cast Shadow Clone? If yes, again: is it Hazou's Shadow Clone or the Earth Clone's Shadow Clone?
        • Does Hazou get its memories?
      • What about a Shadow Clone casting Earth Clone?
    • Are second-order clones range-limited by their proximity to Hazou or to the clone who created them?
  • Once that is done, let whatever Velorien wants happen, we trust him.
As to the latter point, as far as I'm concerned, you can either passively enjoy the best update we can write with full creative freedom, or you can actively interact with the game world, and experience the OOC (XP) and IC consequences of your choices.

What exactly are you asking to be rewarded for, @Oneiros?
 
The plan, in its entirety, reads as follows:

As to the latter point, as far as I'm concerned, you can either passively enjoy the best update we can write with full creative freedom, or you can actively interact with the game world, and experience the OOC (XP) and IC consequences of your choices.

What exactly are you asking to be rewarded for, @Oneiros?
I'm not asking to be rewarded. I'm just trying to figure out the optimal path for both XP and QM enjoyment. Now that we know what the policy is we can use that information to optimize
 
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