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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Oneiros said:
So what do people want to do in mist outside of the heist?
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Contact more merchants for merchant network.

Get tons of samples of any of our favorite foods that Choji didn't have a chance to try during the exams. We can have a picnic with him as part of bringing our clans closer together, and gift him a few storage scrolls worth of anything he particularly likes so he can share with Chouza/others in the clan. This will help us advertise the benefits of trade.
The goal is to move the Akimichi from a clan that backs peace/uplift because the Nara think it's a good idea, to a clan that backs peace/uplift because they see the benefits it brings to them personally.​

Catalog the major industries that Mist has. Everyone knows that Mist does fishing, but they probably do other things too. Also ask merchants what kinds of stuff is in high demand in Mist.
Goal: Find more things that Mist and Leaf can trade with each other. I want to tie Mist and Leaf together as tightly as possible through trade.​
Blood and political convenience are okay for a while, but steady trade between Leaf and Mist will keep us allies even after Ren is gone.​
 
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One of the things I want to accomplish most is sitting up summoner mail with the Oyabun. Being able to communicate and network with important people will be really helpful long term
 
@Jello_Raptor, I'll be quite likely to vote for your plan if you remove testing with all things that have a chakra connection to the characters (elemental and shadow clones, chakra water, chakra constructs, seals).

[x] Action Plan: Quick Portal Research and Daizen Conversation
  • Do some tests, keep a log. Disengage if danger. Do not send anyone through the portal.
    • General Tests
      • kill a chakra beast near the portal.
      • Dependent Variables: Portal size, Portal stability, appearance of beast, any other observations.
    • Store something from the other side of the portal. (air would suffice). Change your clothes. Store you clothes to freeze them in time to later study if changed by portal.
    • Gouge "Please return to Clan Goketsu to claim finder's fee. <random number>" into some metal things and toss them through, log the numbers.
  • Wake Daizen up with a small amount of chakra water. Don't let him have more than the bare minimum chakra he needs in order to wake up, and keep him restrained. Ask team for other restraint ideas.
  • Ask him what the last thing he remembers before being saved was. Ask him whether he remembers dying repeatedly.
  • Ask him what else he remembers from the ordeal.
    • Basically, I'm not sure whether Daizen actually remembers what happened when he was dying repeatedly. He tried to continue our fight when we saved him, which is a little strange for someone who just spent the last couple hours or so dying repeatedly
    • Furthermore, he was screaming the exact same way every time he died. I would expect him to either get tired of screaming at some point, or maybe to start begging for help or something, if he remembered every time he died.
  • Ask Daizen for a rundown of Jashin's teachings.
    • It would probably be dangerous to ask Hidan, but it shouldn't hurt to ask Daizen. This will be useful for future interactions with Hidan.
  • Tell Daizen we are thinking of what to do with him. We can bring him back to Leaf to study the afterlife effects on him. We could kill him first, or bring him alive. We could bribe him to be studied alive instead of studied dead (perhaps with things touched by Hidan?). We are taking ideas if he has any.
 
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[X] Action Plan: The Report

@faflec, your thoughts on these suggestions?:
Noumero said:
Mm, I'm not sure he'd go that far. They're pretty politically savvy, and apparently have agents high in Leaf's hierarchy. Attempting this kind of maneuvering is likely to make them realize he's calling the shots, which risks retaliation. I'm thinking he'll just set up a pattern where we exchange low-importance messages that leak give some information about what each party is doing, as a way of "keeping an eye" on them. On the other hand, it is a prime opportunity to get rid of them...

Regardless, since you agree with the general idea, maybe prepare Hazou for this in your plan? I'm concerned he'll expect Asuma to not seize the control over the communications, leading to some unpleasantries. Maybe even specifically present it as one of our successes, that we've managed to get a channel Asuma could use to manipulate them?
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Noumero said:
Specifically mention how Itachi knew that Leaf is conducting bioterrorism against Rock. Itachi let that slip in the heat of a moment, it's possible that he didn't want us to know he knew that; maybe it could be used to identify one of their agents.
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Anyone else have suggestions, please put them out. I may have missed them.
MMKII said:
Don't just stop at that. Straight up check into the hospital for a few days.

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Do we have to go so far as to check into the hospital? Don't we have a Noburi for this (I wrote out this instead)?
Noumero said:
@faflec, your thoughts on these suggestions?:
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I've implemented the latter but not the former, as I'm having difficulty parsing it into words and want to put something out there first for the sake of speed.
faflec said:
[X] Action Plan: The Report
  • Leave a note detailing your observations on the Other Side with the unconscious Daizen.
  • Return to Leaf.
    • Hazou is injured, so take additional safety precautions.
  • Meet with Asuma.
    • Stop at the clan compound first.
      • Finger-signal Noburi/Akane to keep an eye on Haru; we don't want him running to the Hokage to blurt out our treason.
      • Talk to Mari privately and discuss what happened, and what exactly should be told to the Hokage, how it should be approached, etc..
        • Hazou leans towards full disclosure but wants to make sure he isn't going to get the clan executed for treason or something. Note the letter was mentioned, and Haru was present.
          • Do we need to mention the letter?
        • Full disclosure talking points, for Mari's adjustment:
          • Letter was sent to avert WW4 or affect the outcome for WW4. If Akatsuki had intervened, Rock's attack wouldn't have turned us into swiss cheese.
          • Intel on Hidan and Itachi.
            • Among other things, they were aware of our pox/plague plan against Iwa.
          • Possible limited partnership with Akatsuki.
          • Intel on the afterlife and portal. "I came back from the afterlife to bring this report to you!".
          • Intel on chakra metal and meteorites location.
    • Report to the Tower for debrief. Follow Mari's advice.
      • Ask if Asuma can get information on the Porcupines' culture and attitudes from Enma, so you can determine the best fit for their summoner amongst the Goketsu.
  • Let Hazou recover for at least 1 week before we leave for Mist. In the meantime:
    • Get Summoner training for Haru (if we keep the Porcupine scroll).
    • General preparations for the koi heist. Listen to Mari's advice.
      • Discuss having multiple trips over longer periods of time to throw Mist off our scent when we steal the koi.
      • Make use of Summons to take/transport fish safely.
      • If possible aim to do this while someone known to be lax/incompetent is in charge of inspecting the nets.
      • Steal younger fish and tear the net between the ponds.
      • Be seen elsewhere when it happens.
    • Visit Keiko and ask how her mission went, if she's back.
    • Catch up on our Skyslider/other projects.
    • Get some checkups with Noburi/a medic-nin.
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faflec said:
Do we have to go so far as to check into the hospital? Don't we have a Noburi for this (I wrote out this instead)?
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I'd rather have more mednin mop up our consequences ASAP and switch the one week requirement to "Whenever we feel recovered from the Daizen fight", which should hopefully be strictly less than one week after we get to Leaf anyway.
 
faflec said:
Get Summoner training for Haru (if we keep the Porcupine scroll).
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Why are we doing this?

Just in general:

People who are dead because of Akatsuki:

12 ANBU (possible friends of Asuma)
Shikaku (friend? respected fellow ninja?)
Inoichi (friend? respected fellow ninja?)
Gai (friend)
Kakashi (friend)
random Leaf ninja that died at Nagi
Most of the Uchiha clan
Jiraiya (friend? Kind of a brother?)

Also Akatsuki tortured Naruto for months, who kind of a nephew for Asuma.

Asuma and the rest of the village aren't going to take some of this (the letter specificly) as anything but extreme betrayal if we can't convince them that we were just pragmatic and wanted to use Akatsuki as a tool.
faflec said:
Letter was sent to avert WW4 or affect the outcome for WW4. If Akatsuki had intervened, Rock's attack wouldn't have turned us into swiss cheese.
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We could just drop a written report and have Mari answer and leave for Mist immediately:
eaglejarl said:
"You did what?"

"Look, I wasn't thinking, okay? I don't think it's a long-term problem. He told me to get out of his sight, but nothing beyond that. He didn't even try to flatten me with his jōnin aura."

Mari's smile did not slip, but she did grit her teeth. "Fine. I'll deal with it. In the meantime, you're doing the right thing: Get out of here and stay gone for a couple weeks until things have cooled down." She hugged him, then stepped back and spoke more loudly. "So long, kid. Don't do anything I wouldn't do."
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Sounds like Mari can spin this thing as us not wanting to insult Asuma.
 
ContextBot said:
Why are we doing this?
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Oneiros said:
@faflec if we aren't going to get summoner training for Hazō we shouldn't start trading for Haru
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Alright, I cut that out.
ContextBot said:
Just in general:

People who are dead because of Akatsuki:

12 ANBU (possible friends of Asuma)
Shikaku (friend? respected fellow ninja?)
Inoichi (friend? respected fellow ninja?)
Gai (friend)
Kakashi (friend)
random Leaf ninja that died at Nagi
Most of the Uchiha clan
Jiraiya (friend? Kind of a brother?)

Also Akatsuki tortured Naruto for months, who kind of a nephew for Asuma.

Asuma and the rest of the village aren't going to take some of this (the letter specificly) as anything but extreme betrayal if we can't convince them that we were just pragmatic and wanted to use Akatsuki as a tool.


We could just drop a written report and have Mari answer and leave for Mist immediately:


Sounds like Mari can spin this thing as us not wanting to insult Asuma.
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More or less added. Not sure where/how to emphasize that we wanted to use Akatsuki as tools.
Kiba said:
@faflec

We may want to mention Sasori as potential afterlife collaboration partner in our note to Akatsuki.
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Not sure if this is necessary; Itachi is probably competent enough to recognize that Akatsuki's remaining sealmaster is the sort of person you contact for this sort of thing.
faflec said:
[X] Action Plan: The Report
  • Leave a note detailing your observations on the Other Side with the unconscious Daizen.
  • Return to Leaf.
    • Hazou is injured, so take additional safety precautions.
  • Meet with Asuma.
    • Stop at the clan compound first.
      • Finger-signal Noburi/Akane to keep an eye on Haru; we don't want him running to the Hokage to blurt out our treason.
      • Talk to Mari privately and discuss what happened, and what exactly should be told to the Hokage, how it should be approached, etc..
        • Hazou leans towards full disclosure but wants to avoid execution or other horribleness.
          • Would a written report, with Mari to smooth things over, be appropriate? We'd have to leave for Mist immediately...
          • Do we need to mention the letter? Itachi mentioned it in front of Haru...
        • Full disclosure talking points:
          • Letter was sent to avert WW4 or affect the outcome for WW4. If Akatsuki had intervened, Rock's attack wouldn't have turned us into swiss cheese.
          • Intel on Hidan and Itachi.
            • Among other things, they were aware of our pox/plague plan against Iwa.
          • Possible limited partnership with Akatsuki.
          • Intel on the afterlife and portal. "I came back from the afterlife to bring this report to you!".
          • Intel on chakra metal and meteorites location.
    • Report to the Tower for debrief. Follow Mari's advice.
      • Ask if Asuma can get information on the Porcupines' culture and attitudes from Enma, so you can determine the best fit for their summoner amongst the Goketsu.
  • Let Hazou recover for at least 1 week before we leave for Mist. In the meantime:
    • General preparations for the koi heist. Listen to Mari's advice.
      • Discuss having multiple trips over longer periods of time to throw Mist off our scent when we steal the koi.
      • Make use of Summons to take/transport fish safely.
      • If possible aim to do this while someone known to be lax/incompetent is in charge of inspecting the nets.
      • Steal younger fish and tear the net between the ponds.
      • Be seen elsewhere when it happens.
    • Visit Keiko and ask how her mission went, if she's back.
    • Catch up on our Skyslider/other projects.
    • Get some checkups with Noburi/a medic-nin.
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faflec said:
Anyone else have suggestions, please put them out. I may have missed them.
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I would add "Dissuade Akatsuki if they wanted to retaliate against Leaf" or something similar, it's the biggest reason Asuma would accept and it actually make sense, as us being a positively inclined to them could have stopped the most drastic action they would have taken.
 
Lord Marshal said:
I would add "Dissuade Akatsuki if they wanted to retaliate against Leaf" or something similar, it's the biggest reason Asuma would accept and it actually make sense, as us being a positively inclined to them could have stopped the most drastic action they would have taken.
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I'm not sure Akatsuki was ever in that mindset, and I'm not sure our conversation made them more inclined to do so?
Inferno Vulpix said:
I just realized, Kagome is gonna freak when he hears we experienced multiple sealing failures, including a rift that we went through.
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No need to tell him. No sirree, we're just gonna pretend we killed Daizen with good old-fashioned explosives.

Yup. Nothing to see here.

Edit: Some changes for word count and to make things more cohesive.
faflec said:
[X] Action Plan: The Report
Word Count: 287
  • Leave a note detailing our Naraka Path observations near Daizen.
  • Return to Leaf.
    • Hazou's injured, so take additional safety precautions.
  • Meet with Asuma.
    • Stop at the clan compound first.
      • Finger-signal Noburi/Akane to keep an eye on Haru; we don't want him running to the Hokage to blurt out our treason.
      • Talk to Mari privately, fully detailing our mission and discussing how we should report to Asuma.
        • Hazou leans towards full disclosure but wants to avoid execution or other horribleness.
          • Would a written report, with Mari to smooth things over, be appropriate? We'd have to leave for Mist immediately...
        • Talking points:
          • Letter was sent to control WW4; if Akatsuki'd intervened, Rock's attack may have failed.
            • Do we need to mention the letter? Itachi mentioned it in front of Haru...
          • Intel on Hidan and Itachi.
            • Among other things, they were aware of our pox/plague plan against Iwa.
          • Possible limited partnership with Akatsuki.
          • Intel on the afterlife and portal.
          • Intel on potential meteorites/chakra metal.
    • Debrief at the Tower, following Mari's advice.
  • Let Hazou recover for at least 1 week before we leave for Mist. In the meantime:
    • General preparations for the koi heist. Listen to Mari's advice.
      • Discuss having multiple trips over longer periods of time to throw Mist off our scent when we steal the koi.
      • Make use of Summons to take/transport fish safely.
      • If possible aim to do this while someone known to be lax/incompetent is in charge of inspecting the nets.
      • Steal younger fish and tear the net between the ponds.
      • Be seen elsewhere when it happens.
    • Visit Keiko and ask how her mission went, if she's back.
    • Catch up on our Skyslider/other projects.
    • Get some checkups with Noburi/a medic-nin.
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faflec said:
I'm not sure Akatsuki was ever in that mindset, and I'm not sure our conversation made them more inclined to do so?
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They weren't but both us and Asuma didn't know that, do you remember how after Rock attacked we didn't know who it was and Akatsuki was one of the possibilities? The fact that we went to them, brought intel that they won't flatten the village and were ready to give them reasons for Leaf continued existed is important, not what actually happened. Mission Objectives and Mission results are two different things.
 
faflec said:
Anyone else have suggestions, please put them out.
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since these doesn't require portal risk. @Jello_Raptor , you might be interested in these 2 as well
roobee said:
Change your clothes. Store you clothes to freeze them in time to later study if changed by portal.
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bring the tortoise back alive if possible to do without inconvenience. else store it in seal.

since you expressed interest in dissecting daizen, what do you think of bringing him along?
mention we got the scroll when talking with mari, she could use as leverage to appease Asuma
add how hazou should respond to haru if he asks about the letter or akatsuki before we arrive at leaf. ex: clan secrets, tell u later, etc.
 
roobee said:
since these doesn't require portal risk. @Jello_Raptor , you might be interested in these 2 as well

bring the tortoise back alive if possible to do without inconvenience. else store it in seal.

since you expressed interest in dissecting daizen, what do you think of bringing him along?
mention we got the scroll when talking with mari, she could use as leverage to appease Asuma
add how hazou should respond to haru if he asks about the letter or akatsuki before we arrive at leaf. ex: clan secrets, tell u later, etc.
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You do realize that it's additional stuff to add to the plan? The plan is currently right sized.
 
Noumero said:
Mm, I'm not sure he'd go that far. They're pretty politically savvy, and apparently have agents high in Leaf's hierarchy. Attempting this kind of maneuvering is likely to make them realize he's calling the shots, which risks retaliation. I'm thinking he'll just set up a pattern where we exchange low-importance messages that leak give some information about what each party is doing, as a way of "keeping an eye" on them. On the other hand, it is a prime opportunity to get rid of them...

Regardless, since you agree with the general idea, maybe prepare Hazou for this in your plan? I'm concerned he'll expect Asuma to not seize the control over the communications, leading to some unpleasantries. Maybe even specifically present it as one of our successes, that we've managed to get a channel Asuma could use to manipulate them?
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Lord Marshal said:
They weren't but both us and Asuma didn't know that, do you remember how after Rock attacked we didn't know who it was and Akatsuki was one of the possibilities? The fact that we went to them, brought intel that they won't flatten the village and were ready to give them reasons for Leaf continued existed is important, not what actually happened. Mission Objectives and Mission results are two different things.
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Added sections to both these suggestions; please check if they work with you.
roobee said:
bring the tortoise back alive if possible to do without inconvenience. else store it in seal.
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Tortoise is probably run off by now, TBH.
roobee said:
since you expressed interest in dissecting daizen, what do you think of bringing him along?
mention we got the scroll when talking with mari, she could use as leverage to appease Asuma
add how hazou should respond to haru if he asks about the letter or akatsuki before we arrive at leaf. ex: clan secrets, tell u later, etc.
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Daizen was a fucking joke, Jashin damnit. I don't want Hazou to hand him off to Orochimaru/Asuma and I expect Hazou to internally veto the idea. Added telling Mari about the Porcupine scroll, though I think she'd already know about it.

Haru...yeah, that should have a section. Dunno what to add, though. Will put that on hold for now.
faflec said:
[X] Action Plan: The Report
Word Count: 293
  • Leave a note detailing our Naraka Path observations near Daizen.
  • Return to Leaf.
    • Hazou's injured, so take additional safety precautions.
  • Meet with Asuma.
    • Stop at the clan compound first.
      • Finger-signal Noburi/Akane to keep an eye on Haru; we don't want him running to the Hokage to blurt out our treason.
      • Talk to Mari privately, fully detailing our mission and discussing how we should report to Asuma.
        • Hazou leans towards full disclosure but wants to avoid major Consequences.
          • Would a written report, with Mari to smooth things over, be appropriate? We'd have to leave for Mist immediately...
        • Talking points:
          • Yes, we got the Scroll.
          • Letter was sent to control WW4; if Akatsuki'd intervened, Rock's attack may have failed.
            • Do we need to mention the letter? Itachi mentioned it in front of Haru...
          • Intel on Hidan and Itachi.
            • Among other things, they were aware of our pox/plague plan against Iwa.
          • Possible limited partnership with Akatsuki.
            • They at least seem unlikely to attack.
            • Would Asuma try to take over over communications?
          • Intel on the afterlife and portal.
          • Intel on potential meteorites/chakra metal.
    • Debrief at the Tower, following Mari's advice.
  • R&R for >1week before we leave for Mist. In the meantime:
    • Prepare for the koi heist. Get Mari's advice.
      • Consider multiple trips to throw Mist off our scent when we steal the koi.
      • Make use of Summons to take/transport fish safely.
      • If possible aim to do this while someone known to be lax/incompetent is in charge of inspecting the nets.
      • Steal younger fish and tear the net between the ponds.
      • Be seen elsewhere when it happens.
    • Visit Keiko and ask how her mission went, if she's back.
    • Catch up on our Skyslider/other projects.
    • Get some checkups with Noburi/a medic-nin.
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