Can I point out that akatsuki played a big role in the death of the third and that asuma will 100% kill us if we tell him we initiated contact? It's entirely within his character too, with his response to the mere idea of friendly relations with rock.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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IIRC if we can't make a contract with the Dogs Asuma was supposed to let us take another prize or something.
No they didn't.
Akatsuki only showed up after Yagura (who was the Yondaime Mizukage, and not a member of Akatsuki as far as any of us know) killed the Third.
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Anyone here an expert in building GLaDOS-style AIs? Because I don't think it's within human power to protect the QM docs anymore. (If it knows how to make cake without conventional baking ingredients, which are presently unavailable where I live, that would be a bonus.)Hey, this isn't actually a joke. Ami will deal with Keiko's image issues in the eyes of the world, because she sure as shit isn't gonna let Keiko die or get assassins thrown at her. And anyway, her name is Nara Keiko, now.
Actually, it was Yagura that killed the Third. Akatsuki showed up after that, and they killed the Yagura in their ritual.
With Rock, I think it's because the emotional wounds were still very fresh.
Honestly, I think "Ami would burn the world and commit any atrocity necessary to keep Keiko safe" is common sense if you know anything about Ami, so in this case I don't think the docs got cracked.
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Can I have the cake-baking AI anyway?Honestly, I think "Ami would burn the world and commit any atrocity necessary to keep Keiko safe" is common sense if you know anything about Ami, so in this case I don't think the docs got cracked.
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Do you seriously think an AI is going to do any better?
The best I can find you is a group that managed to make an AI that could make cupcake recipes.
AI Cupcakes
www.cupcaikes.com
You'll need to direct your requests to them.
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I think it'll do weirder. Once we've fed it the complete works of Kishimoto, it will stylishly provide the desired results while at the same time making no sense whatsoever.
That is utterly excellent. Thank you.The best I can find you is a group that managed to make an AI that could make cupcake recipes.
AI Cupcakes
You'll need to direct your requests to them.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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Now I'm imagining Out!Hazou as a baker.
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Okay, I've been studying for finals so I haven't been al that active today. Give me a sec (fair warning, I've had a drink or two).
Or perhaps Orochimaru has been changed so much by his experimentation (or, implementing his most successful experiments into himself) that he no longer counts as "human" enough for the ritual to work? It'd be interesting to know if Hidan's ritual works on anything with blood, or if it's human-specific. On that note, if Chakra Beasts are affected by it?
Yup, if we tell the truth to Asuma, we need to fork over the Scroll. I have a feeling that we've been banking too much on Asuma's goodwill, but I might just be over-fixating on Asuma's response to our Rock suggestion. The Goketsu, as a clan, are living proof of his moral philosophy and we've contributed a lot towards Leaf's military power. Judging by his behavior when he taught Hazou the SC jutsu (not to mention a lot of personal interactions we've had, Library Incident included), Asuma's probably going to be more patient/understanding with us than we rightfully deserve. But that said, we shouldn't push that too much. Let's bring the Scroll in good faith. There's a (small) chance he might assign it to our clan anyway, to make sure that other clans see it. As a sort of: "the Tower rewards those who actively work towards her benefit, loyalty and trust is rewarded in kind."
*looks longingly at my plan to use those as a foothold to get Leaf to open up to the idea of global trade, humanizing their neighbors*
Yeah, I guess you're right...
We might get bonus points for it... Though once Orochimaru finds out that we went through that portal and didn't die, he might also want Hazou as a "control" element for comparison to the Lazarus guy. Mixed bag, that.
Yeah, I adore Asuma's character and I'm ecstatic that we have a Hokage that likes us, but we shouldn't push it. People do distasteful things all the time, especially leaders.
But yeah, I'm pretty indifferent on who gets the Scroll, as long as it isn't Haru. I'm leaning more favorably toward Hazou, but that's basically only because Earglejarl wants to write that and I'm all for using my limited power as a player to ensure that the QMs enjoy what they write.
SHIKAMARU: "How??"
HAZOU: "Iron Nerve, obviously."
I've be okay with starting Akane and Hazou on training for receiving one. I mean, out of all of Team Uplift, they're the ones that are most likely to get one.
[X] Poll: Doggos scroll go to Hazo
I'm particularly indifferent on this matter, but eaglejarl would like to write it.
Yup, basically this. Besides, we know nothing about Haru's skillset. It might turn out that Summons work against his skillset. Of course, if he had a Scroll land in his lap, he'd probably feel obligated to respec himself to use it, but he might resent the change.
Fuck. I thought that this was just like the previous Condor/Pangolin war where it wasn't that big of a deal. I thought that the Summoning Clans were isolated enough that they didn't really care about what happened to the others, as long as it didn't reach them. Fuck. Welp, Hazou might not be able to sign contracts now... shit.
Or perhaps Orochimaru has been changed so much by his experimentation (or, implementing his most successful experiments into himself) that he no longer counts as "human" enough for the ritual to work? It'd be interesting to know if Hidan's ritual works on anything with blood, or if it's human-specific. On that note, if Chakra Beasts are affected by it?
Yup, if we tell the truth to Asuma, we need to fork over the Scroll. I have a feeling that we've been banking too much on Asuma's goodwill, but I might just be over-fixating on Asuma's response to our Rock suggestion. The Goketsu, as a clan, are living proof of his moral philosophy and we've contributed a lot towards Leaf's military power. Judging by his behavior when he taught Hazou the SC jutsu (not to mention a lot of personal interactions we've had, Library Incident included), Asuma's probably going to be more patient/understanding with us than we rightfully deserve. But that said, we shouldn't push that too much. Let's bring the Scroll in good faith. There's a (small) chance he might assign it to our clan anyway, to make sure that other clans see it. As a sort of: "the Tower rewards those who actively work towards her benefit, loyalty and trust is rewarded in kind."
*looks longingly at my plan to use those as a foothold to get Leaf to open up to the idea of global trade, humanizing their neighbors*
Yeah, I guess you're right...
We might get bonus points for it... Though once Orochimaru finds out that we went through that portal and didn't die, he might also want Hazou as a "control" element for comparison to the Lazarus guy. Mixed bag, that.
Yeah, I adore Asuma's character and I'm ecstatic that we have a Hokage that likes us, but we shouldn't push it. People do distasteful things all the time, especially leaders.
But yeah, I'm pretty indifferent on who gets the Scroll, as long as it isn't Haru. I'm leaning more favorably toward Hazou, but that's basically only because Earglejarl wants to write that and I'm all for using my limited power as a player to ensure that the QMs enjoy what they write.
SHIKAMARU: "How??"
HAZOU: "Iron Nerve, obviously."
I've be okay with starting Akane and Hazou on training for receiving one. I mean, out of all of Team Uplift, they're the ones that are most likely to get one.
[X] Poll: Doggos scroll go to Hazo
I'm particularly indifferent on this matter, but eaglejarl would like to write it.
Yup, basically this. Besides, we know nothing about Haru's skillset. It might turn out that Summons work against his skillset. Of course, if he had a Scroll land in his lap, he'd probably feel obligated to respec himself to use it, but he might resent the change.
Fuck. I thought that this was just like the previous Condor/Pangolin war where it wasn't that big of a deal. I thought that the Summoning Clans were isolated enough that they didn't really care about what happened to the others, as long as it didn't reach them. Fuck. Welp, Hazou might not be able to sign contracts now... shit.
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[X]Action Plan: Always follow the Oracle.
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[X] Action Plan: The Report
Before we talk to Akane about the Oracle, I'd suggest that Hazou talks to Mari about this. Whether it's in the style of a ramble/rant where he does most of the talking, or whether it's a more mutual back and forth, I think that it'd be worth getting her opinion on this. Her last advice basically boiled down to "what are you looking for in a relationship, kid?" And Hazou still doesn't really know.
This is where I'd prefer to allow simulationism to take over. Let the QMs discuss what they think that Hazou, as a character would decide. That, along with what they want to write. We, the players, each have our individual thoughts and feelings on Hazou's romance arc, but at the end of the day, we're not the one's writing it. Let the QMs think about it and decide what they want to write for Hazou's character.
That said, I still think that we should talk to Akane and clear the air about the Out Incident. From her point of view, Hazou was unusually cruel to her and we should fix that misunderstanding.
Before we talk to Akane about the Oracle, I'd suggest that Hazou talks to Mari about this. Whether it's in the style of a ramble/rant where he does most of the talking, or whether it's a more mutual back and forth, I think that it'd be worth getting her opinion on this. Her last advice basically boiled down to "what are you looking for in a relationship, kid?" And Hazou still doesn't really know.
This is where I'd prefer to allow simulationism to take over. Let the QMs discuss what they think that Hazou, as a character would decide. That, along with what they want to write. We, the players, each have our individual thoughts and feelings on Hazou's romance arc, but at the end of the day, we're not the one's writing it. Let the QMs think about it and decide what they want to write for Hazou's character.
That said, I still think that we should talk to Akane and clear the air about the Out Incident. From her point of view, Hazou was unusually cruel to her and we should fix that misunderstanding.
We are not relying on his goodwill, but his pragmatism.
Bit worried that Asuma even if he is fine with us will do something like send a task force to find and kill Akatsuki. If they came and expressed willingness to cooperate with plans and stuff that would have been one thing. But the story as is that the akatsuki are emotionally unstable, expressing willingness to cooperate one moment, and threatening to kill us the next. Much less persuasive case to Asuma for them to be useful partners.
That's only Itachi. He will get over it, probably.
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That was more "What should we do, and propose to Asuma" than "What Asuma will order us".
"Those S-Rank ninja are batshit insane, i brought back a bunch of information and positive relationship with them because the situation was that desperate, please don't make me do it again" would be what i would say to Asuma after the beefing, if we survive.
That is suicide. What task force? The 3 S-Ranker that are the only reason Leaf is not conquered?To fight 7-S Rankers?
Also we can't sell the Akatsuki as partners angle, Asuma will rightfully be pissed at us for trying that, We can sell the "Make so they won't nuke Leaf to the ground and at the same time bring back intel on their foreign policy so we don't fear getting flattened every day".
Jokes aside, the problem is that we went behind Hiashi back, but the result of the operation are on the level of far more than a summon scroll.(Without counting the Summon Scroll).
Leaf knows Akatsuki foreign policy and general physical and psychological status,this is big, it's massive. It changes completely any strategy Asuma will make from here on, it's that big of a deal. Plus that, we're bringing:
- The intel that Akatsuki have insider info in Leaf(They know about the Mari's plan) and more generally are capable of keeping tab on the Hidden Villages.
- A Summon Scroll
- A relationship(?) that coupled with their Foreign policy means Akatsuki will probably leave Leaf alone unless provoked
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Historically, that is exactly how becoming the richest man in the world worked
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Plus, we actually worked for the first scroll, and only inherited the second one. Usually you inherit your first massive amount of money, then use that to make even more. In MfD, that would be like if we had inherited the toad scroll and then used our toad summons and Jiraiya's connections to find the pangolin and porcupine scrolls.Historically, that is exactly how becoming the richest man in the world worked
Admittedly, we did use one of Jiraiya's connections to find the pangolin scroll, but that was before we were family.
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[X] Poll: Make no decisions until we're actually holding the scrolls
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Plus, we actually worked for the first scroll, and only inherited the second one. Usually you inherit your first massive amount of money, then use that to make even more. In MfD, that would be like if we had inherited the toad scroll and then used our toad summons and Jiraiya's connections to find the pangolin and porcupine scrolls.
Admittedly, we did use one of Jiraiya's connections to find the pangolin scroll, but that was before we were family.
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[X] Poll: Make no decisions until we're actually holding the scrolls
There's always going to be some amount of capital even if that is only your brain and body.
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[X] Action Plan: The Report
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I wonder how the authority of being a clan head factors in to being a Summoner. If the dogs pick Hazou us as their summoner, they now have incredible leverage over the Toads, since we have absolute authority over Noburi.
This makes me think Hazou should get the last scroll because no summon clan will want to take a summoner already beholden to another clan's summoner and conversely, Hazou's value as a summoner dramatically increases the more summoners he has personal authority over.
Hell, even if whatever clan's scroll we get hates the Goketsou, it might be too good an opportunity for them to pass up.
This makes me think Hazou should get the last scroll because no summon clan will want to take a summoner already beholden to another clan's summoner and conversely, Hazou's value as a summoner dramatically increases the more summoners he has personal authority over.
Hell, even if whatever clan's scroll we get hates the Goketsou, it might be too good an opportunity for them to pass up.
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A summoner is, by itself, a position devoid of meaningful political power: as Keiko showed, a summoner is appreciated but not necessary part of a clan, that has no real power aside from a relationship of give and take and a certain level of respect and admiration from the masses. Anything else depends on the person. Trying something like that ends in the Toads refusing anything Hazou orders Noburi to do, and just getting pissed at Hazou for trying to play political games.
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Visit Momma, chat with the ramen guy, start a war, nab some merchants for trade. You know, the usual.
1. We buy fishes, using Goketsu storage seals, and possibly investments from merchants and our money. Price of salt might be cheaper in Mist than in Leaf.
2. Hang out with Hana. Speak to Ren, reconcile. Possibly meet our grandparents for the first time.
3. Make new contact with merchants to restart the whole merchant empire thingy.