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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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We need to talk to Haru and get his take on everything. On one hand, he stuck up for us, implicitly, against Itachi and Hidan. On the other hand, that might've just been because the guillotine's edge was caressing everyone's jugular. The upside, of course, is that he sees that Team Uplift is serious about our mission statement. If Haru doesn't react too poorly, Noburi gets a drinking buddy that gets to share in his Hazou-related woes.

[But my prefrence is that we...] should also try and tackle the more social stuff, too. Let our current experiments continue on in the background (maybe set a few more up, but mostly let it run in the background), generating valuable data, while we spend time with friends and family. Hazou has a history of seeing people as tools/pawns and we've tried to correct that. Let's not backslide, yeah? Check up on Mari, Have lunch with Kagome, check on Honoka, have a "come to Jesus" talk with Noburi about Yuno, clear the air with Akane about the Awkward Out Attack, have lunch with Ino, talk with Haru, spend some cloud-watching time with Shikamaru to bond with our brother-in-law, and all the other things that we should probably do to make sure Hazou doesn't lose sight of the trees while staring at the forest.

If nothing else, Hazou's been given two really good reasons to do so. 1) near-death experiences make one reexamine their priorities, and 2) Itachi lost track of what it means to care for those whom you fight for. Hazou's been shown to hate the Akatsuki for what they did to his family, and he's expressed a particularly strong revulsion for Itachi's hypocrisy. So it'd make sense for him to take action and change so as to not be anything like Itachi.

Edit: in fact, Itachi's mindset (working for Peace but not really caring about those who live in it) is so completely antithetical to Hazou's personality that I could easily see him needing to go to Mari to try and gain some understanding about it. I imagine that it'd be like if Hashirama (who fought for a more peaceful world) met Danzou (who would burn down the world for the sake of his home, which is actually a pretty interesting refit of the Warring Clan Era's Us vs Them mindset --just retrofitted for the "modern" EN era).
 
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Lord Marshal said:
What stops Haru to stop the first ANBU/Jonin and notify that his clan head just committed high treason,ruining any plan we're doing, if completely unaddressed?
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Good point. We could tell him that we're going to tell the full truth to Asuma, and this is a clan/village secret that he is absolutely not to mention to anyone else in the village?


Enjou said:
I don't think we really need to write in reasoning for our plan to talk to Asuma. Whatever we happen to be honest about, it'll involve Hazou's actual motivations anyway since we don't want to actively lie to Asuma.
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It's been long enough that most of the players didn't even remember why we did it. I think it's fully reasonable to remind both Hazō and the QMs what our reasoning was. Otherwise we might get something along the lines of wanting peace at all costs or something.
 
MMKII said:
Good point, lets take a poll:

Like this post if you think that Haru is not really much of a problem at all in the current situation.
Informative this post if you think that Haru is some sort of problem we need to solve.
Insightful this post if you don't care either way and would like to go do more dangerous things.
Heart this post if you (like me) want to sweep up some of these romantic plot threads left hanging.
Funny this post if you want to go blow things up.
SiK this post if you want to go find Keiko and brutally kill the condor summoner with some pro-wrestling moves assisted by rocket boots, because its what Gai sensei would have wanted.
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***Screaming in Kagome***

Wow, this is harder than it looks. @faflec makes it look so natural.

Also, @eaglejarl and I would have the most amazing debates about how to model that in the combat simulator.
 
We're not interested in looking at the Porcy Scroll, right? It's most likely just going to give us another brain bleed?
 
Sentient Tree said:
It's been long enough that most of the players didn't even remember why we did it. I think it's fully reasonable to remind both Hazō and the QMs what our reasoning was. Otherwise we might get something along the lines of wanting peace at all costs or something.
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I think it is quite obvious to all concerned that Hazō would go pretty damn far for peace.
 
Alright, so we gonna wanna act fast before Goketsu get surrounded by a sea of lava and the forest sets on fire preventing their escape. In fact, that might have already happened. Do we wanna flee the tube now using skywalkers to avoid touching the ground of lava and flaming trees or hope we have enough time to fix the tube before leaving?
 
roobee said:
Alright, so we gonna wanna act fast before Goketsu get surrounded by a sea of lava and the forest sets on fire preventing their escape. In fact, that might have already happened. Do we wanna flee the tube now using skywalkers to avoid touching the ground of lava and flaming trees or hope we have enough time to fix the tube before leaving?
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We can go underground.
 
Noburi has 30 sets of skywalkers. With each lasting minimum around 28 minutes of running, split between the 4 that gives 3.5 hours of running. I dunno how fast the tube is spewing lava but I doubt we can't escape the lava ocean and burning forest within 3.5 hours.

edit: although the ones hazou brought through the portal are prob less time. hopefully that won't be a large effect
 
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roobee said:
Noburi has 30 sets of skywalkers. With each lasting minimum around 28 minutes of running, split between the 4 that gives 3.5 hours of running. I dunno how fast the tube is spewing lava but I doubt we can't escape the lava ocean and burning forest within 3.5 hours.

edit: although the ones hazou brought through the portal are prob less time. hopefully that won't be a large effect
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The lava isn't coming out that fast, and it's running off. You won't have any difficulty coming or going as you please, even without skywalkers.
 
Enjou said:
I say the lava tube is Akatsuki's problem and we leave.
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Then we'd better get a LOT of cuttings/samples/seeds for our garden, with enough inventory to have a good amount of room for error. Because Itachi and Hidan aren't exactly big on actually caring about people, especially not right now since Hazou's twisted Itachi into knots and unnerved Hidan's foundation of faith. So they'll likely just wander off the island, heads turned inwards for some much-needed introspection.

As fascinating as I'm sure it'll be to write/plan (sarcasm), I have a feeling that if we ignore this sealing failure completely, there won't be an island/town/temple to come back to. Bare minimum should be to find a way to sufficiently stall it for long enough to send for a more experienced sealmaster (kagome) to consult with. Unless Hazou, in character, knows of a better way to go about dealing with it than we, ourselves do? Not really that the player-character dissonance is working in our favor here...

faflec said:
Should we...do something, about this?
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...Well. Shit. Eaglejarl warned us not to go near Itachi right now, basically flat out telling us that it'd result in a TPK... maybe this is their way of getting rid of a location they don't want to come back to? Or maybe it's a narrative sign of just how outclassed we are by the Akatsuki, and that no matter what we, the hivemind, might plan out, there are still forces in the EN that disturb planning/machinations by their mere existence.
 
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faflec said:
So, uh...

Should we...do something, about this?
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Nope. Unless we want to also become a target.

Unfortunately, this means it will be difficult to set up any fruit trading agreements with the civilians here, since we would run the risk of getting Itachi'd.

Edit: let's get all the cuttings and fruits we can while we're in the forest. We can at least bring back samples to convince the Akimichi to open up trade with the place, and if we're lucky we may be able to grow some of them around Leaf despite the climate difference.

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Actually, the Akimichi are probably our greatest allies in the quest for peace through trade. They'll understand the value of being able to import exotic new foods and stuff.
 
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Sentient Tree said:
Nope. Unless we want to also become a target.

Unfortunately, this means it will be difficult to set up any fruit trading agreements with the civilians here, since we would run the risk of getting Itachi'd.

Edit: let's get all the cuttings and fruits we can while we're in the forest. We can at least bring back samples to convince the Akamichi to open up trade with the place, and if we're lucky we may be able to grow some of them around Leaf despite the climate difference.

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Actually, the Akimichi are probably our greatest allies in the quest for peace through trade. They'll understand the value of being able to import exotic new foods and stuff.
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And we're on good terms with the Yamanaka and the Nara, so the Akimichi should be open to listening to us, at least. I think that the main issue would be convincing them away from the traditional food styles. And that can be solved through exposing them to lemons/limes with beer --which is something unique/limited to this area, based on the conversations with the local shopkeepers --since alcohol is a universal constant in every human civilization.

Edit: And even if this Temple/town is ruined, there are others that might be open to trading.

Edit2: And we can always to a humanitarian mission to help this place out. Help them bury their dead, help bring in crops, plant more (also get more info, yay!), build homes, all that awesome Uplift stuff. If we need permission, we could spin it as good PR for the Leaf while also training genin on a relatively safe mission. If we really get involved, we could set up a new local government to replace the old one, ensuring that this one is more favorable to Leaf (not exactly my first choice, but it's an idea to spin to Asuma if he needs convincing, even after all the other reasons... and it's not like we destroyed the place).
 
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RandomOTP said:
Then we'd better get a LOT of cuttings/samples/seeds for our garden, with enough inventory to have a good amount of room for error. Because Itachi and Hidan aren't exactly big on actually caring about people, especially not right now since Hazou's twisted Itachi into knots and unnerved Hidan's foundation of faith. So they'll likely just wander off the island, heads turned inwards for some much-needed introspection.

As fascinating as I'm sure it'll be to write/plan (sarcasm), I have a feeling that if we ignore this sealing failure completely, there won't be an island/town/temple to come back to. Bare minimum should be to find a way to sufficiently stall it for long enough to send for a more experienced sealmaster (kagome) to consult with. Unless Hazou, in character, knows of a better way to go about dealing with it than we, ourselves do? Not really that the player-character dissonance is working in our favor here...
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The lava isn't coming out super fast and is running off. Frankly, I'm not sure there's anything we can do about this one. If we box it up the pressure would just build and it would erupt. The best we could probably do is wall it up and direct the flow to an extent, and hope it peters our before too much damage can be done.
 
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