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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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I would like to repeat my request that the following line be added to plans covering non-trivial amounts of time:
My reasoning for why I think EJ would be okay with this and why I think now is a good time for it are included below:
Inferno Vulpix said:
I would like to suggest that, for plans covering a significant amount of time such as a week, that the following line be added:
Eaglejarl has expressed that he's tentatively okay with linking to a post containing the full methodology of something as long as it's not being used to circumvent wordcount limitations (i.e. methology and reasoning, but not action):

This is a bit of a slow-burn project because we want Hazou to spend a fair amount of time refining the ideas before publication, but now's a good time to start.
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Inferno Vulpix said:
I would like to repeat my request that the following line be added to plans covering non-trivial amounts of time:
My reasoning for why I think EJ would be okay with this and why I think now is a good time for it are included below:
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Sure, why not.
faflec said:
[X] Action Plan: Summoning Structures
Word Count: 391

Run ideas past the clan where applicable.
  • Meet with Ebisu:
    • Act reasonably to achieve our long-term goals.
  • Scroll Hunt:
    • Strategize our investigation of Todoroki Shrine.
      • How are we infiltrating?
        • Pretend to be merchants/religious supplicants.
        • Disguise ourselves as sailors/merchants and travel there via boat.
      • Prepare disguise kits.
      • Do we need additional combat power? Listen to clan recommendations.
  • Estate:
    • Proclaim Uplift as the purpose of the Goketsu Clan.
      • Goal: Give everyone in our clan a reason to go above and beyond for our cause.
      • Main thrust: This world is cold, dark, and unforgiving; but we will give our all to light a path through it.
        • Indeed, we are the vanguards of the Will of Fire, raising our eyes to blaze a trail for all to follow.
      • We, civilian and ninja, must all give everything we have for this better world.
  • Reforms:
    • Projects:
      • Sanitation.
      • Goketsu and affiliate ninja working conditions.
      • Goketsu civilian living standards.
    • Apply the following process to all projects.
      • Team-building:
        • Convene a commission to improve the situation.
          • Sanitation:
            • Include local residents, medical experts, and us.
          • Ninja working conditions:
            • Empower Haru, Atomu, and Reo to conduct review of possible improvements.
              • Suggest they adopt a similar structure.
          • Civilian conditions:
            • Empower civilian leaders in our clan.
              • Give explicit, signed, and legal permission to speak frankly to us with no risk of retribution.
        • Construct the problem.
          • Get every stakeholder (including us) to be able to answer:
            • Why do the problems matter?
            • For whom?
            • Who needs to care more?
            • What will a place with better conditions be like?
              • What would be a measurable end-goal look (or smell) like?
        • Deconstruct the problem into solvable root causes, creating a branching diagram.
          • Create an initial, limited, and detailed plan of action for the more solvable root problems.
            • The plan should be limited to a week.
            • Execute.
      • At the first iteration end time, meet with the team.
        • Evaluate:
          • What worked.
          • What we learned about implementation, assumptions, and the landscape for change.
          • What our next steps are.
        • Make sure to record notes to maintain institutional knowledge.
      • Spread the word about our efforts - and successes! - in various reforms.
        • Goals:
          • Create network of interested people.
          • Create network of authorizers for future reform exports.
        • Key constituencies:
          • Tower
          • KEI
          • ISC
          • Clan members
          • Civilian leaders
      • Draft and implement new plans of action, using recorded lessions, within a timeframe.
  • Start compiling thoughts on the Scientific Method.
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1234qwerty said:
I'm sorry. I should know better by now than to read comments negatively in this thread. I apologize.

Through no fault of your own, these are the things that rubbed me the wrong way: the title has protest vote in the name, skipping to the end of an arc makes lots of world building work in the background and rings of derailing plot threads carefully prepared by the QMs, and ej's recent comment.


Once again, I'm sorry. Hope I didn't cause any stress :(.
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That is a wonderful problem to have, though, you must admit. Big hugs to thread culture here. :)
 
1234qwerty said:
I'm sorry. I should know better by now than to read comments negatively in this thread. I apologize.

Through no fault of your own, these are the things that rubbed me the wrong way: the title has protest vote in the name, skipping to the end of an arc makes lots of world building work in the background and rings of derailing plot threads carefully prepared by the QMs, and ej's recent comment.
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Ah, I see how it could be perceived that way. No, this was mostly just me signaling displeasure with the current docket (I could see how one could this being rude to other folks who care about such stuff, hence the emphasis and the bolding) as well as pressing for what I perceive to be a quasi-reasonable timeskip given how the narrative state and the mechanical state have us in a bit of a doublebind when it comes to uniformly enjoyable content.
Once again, I'm sorry. Hope I didn't cause any stress :(.
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Nope, just concerned I failed a spot check. No worries.
 
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Current plan.
Oneiros said:
word count: 256
[X] Action plan: The quest for the scroll
  • Run ideas past the clan where applicable.
    • Meet with Ebisu. Get the results of his training.
      • We'd like to see a demonstration of his results.
      • If appropriate, send a report to Asuma.
    • Clan discussion: Condors.
      • If the Scroll's taken, Conjura won't be cooperative because Leaf also houses the Pangolins. It'll be caldera'd for Pangolin support or lay fallow until Conjura's hunted down (which may take years).
      • However, an elite social-spec might manage to negotiate for powerful jutsu/summoning contracts in exchange for moderating Pangolin aggression or (clandestinely) providing Conjura resources.
      • If Mari'd be up to it, get her OK to present the idea to Asuma.
    • Summoning Scroll Hunt:
      • We have the information needed to start the mission.
      • Final preparations:
        • Prepare disguise kits.
        • Pay any reasonable amount to recruit some firepower/support. Possibilities:
          • Mari:
            • Pros: Works best with the team, incredibly talented.
            • Cons: Retired, might not be able to spare her from political work.
          • Snake:
            • Pros: Good relations, talented.
            • Cons: ANBU.
          • Anko:
            • Pros: Social-spec, Mari's friend.
            • Cons: Is Anko.
          • Tsunade:
            • Pros: Most talented ninja available.
            • Cons: Difficult to recruit.
          • Other ninja? Follow the clan/Mari's recommendations.
      • Send recruited ninja with Hazō, Akane, and Haru to Todoroki Shrine.
        • Enter the town disguised as merchants or religious supplicants.
          • See if we can get on a boat for the last leg of our journey, we could disguise ourselves as sailors.
        • Meet with Jiraiya's contacts. Look for anyone who came from Sky or Moon in the past 20 years, civilian or ninja.
    • Have a clan member turn in Jiraiya's notes if we aren't back by the end of the contest.
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Briefvoice said:
Because there's been an explicit QM request that it's more fun to write Hazou doing exciting things.
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I'm pretty confident that I did not make an explicit request...I certainly explained what sorts of things would tend to earn more XP, but y'all are free to vote for "Watch paint dry" if you want.

1234qwerty said:
Did the training plan from last time go through?
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Yes.

1234qwerty said:
This is rude to the QMs. I expected better.
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For the record, I wasn't offended. I appreciate you standing up for me, though.

1234qwerty said:
Once again, I'm sorry. Hope I didn't cause any stress :(.
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1234qwerty said:
I'm sorry. I should know better by now than to read comments negatively in this thread. I apologize.
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We have the absolute coolest community here. Not only are people generous to one another, not only do they stick up for one another, they actually recognize and admit when they were wrong about something!

You get all the internet points, @1234qwerty
 
There's SO MANY PLANS this cycle. I love/hate it. Well, so many action plans. Training seems to be taking a very obvious direction that I've very happy with.

[X] Training Plan: Akane (Resolve)
[X] Action Plan: Conferences and Conflagrations
[x] let ej write what he wants, we trust him
[X] Action Plan: Summoning Structures
[X] Action Plan: Awarded Council Seat, Denied the Rank of Master...
 
[x] Training Akane: none

With this, Akane can keep 3 SC active, for +30% of her growth rate. This is really really good if her growth rate is locked to ours (5 recently, though possibly lower with the 2.5/day plan just now - even that is similar to her base).

[X] Action Plan: Structural Reforms
[X] Action Plan: Summoning Structures

I don't see the rationale behind the "Reforms" section of these plans. First, I feel like these wouldn't make a good scene. It feels like we would be voting it in because it's a thing that ought to be voted in, so maybe the sort of thing that should be linked to. Also, I feel like this requires a level of existing organization to build on that isn't there yet.

[-] Action plan: The quest for the scroll

It's probably suboptimal to chase Scrolls before we get better, but I don't expect things to be very hot at Todoroki shrine. Nagi Island is literally on the way, so let's stop by and download Pain's sealing arrays, please?

[-] Protest Plan: Thumbs and Twiddling

Tbh I'd vote for this if we had a gliders writeup to link to.

EDIT: hygp does a convince.

EDIT 2: It costs little to be conservative about how to train. Also wow, my votes didn't age well.
 
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Paperclipped said:
I don't see the rationale behind the "Reforms" section of these plans. First, I feel like these wouldn't make a good scene. It feels like we would be voting it in because it's a thing that ought to be voted in, so maybe the sort of thing that should be linked to. Also, I feel like this requires a level of existing organization to build on that isn't there yet.
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I mean, you might have a good point with regards to "not everything planned here will be an engaging scene to write, but I think that needing to show every step is not only suboptimal but the plan literally doesn't even ask for it.

I think we should vote it in because it's really the most effective way to seriously do reforms, given the difficulties of working with cultures and conditions we don't know; for chrissakes, the staple crops try to kill the farmers who harvest them - what's to say that there isn't some horrible chakra shit monster that's massively impeding efforts to congregate shit together?

Like, details like those are ones that we don't know and can't know unless we're willing to say "tell us about the situation QMs so that we can improve it" - or we could skip a step and say "If Hazou knows about a problem Hazou exercises his discretion and solves the problem.

Lastly, on the point of organization - it's precisely because that we don't have an organization that this style of reform is necessary. If we had a good organization that was capable of implementing high level policy directives immediately, we could just do that - however, because we lack that strong organization, we need build said organization with legitimacy by rapidly achieving a string of successes that improve the lives of the people that the organization is responsible for. We can impart these ideas much more directly to the small reform team rather than the whole clan at once, which makes this organizationally less complex and difficult.
 
[X] Action Plan: Summoning Structures
[X] Protest Plan: Thumbs and Twiddling
[x] let ej write what he wants, we trust him
 
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huhYeahGoodPoint said:
I mean, you might have a good point with regards to "not everything planned here will be an engaging scene to write, but I think that needing to show every step is not only suboptimal but the plan literally doesn't even ask for it.

I think we should vote it in because it's really the most effective way to seriously do reforms, given the difficulties of working with cultures and conditions we don't know; for chrissakes, the staple crops try to kill the farmers who harvest them - what's to say that there isn't some horrible chakra shit monster that's massively impeding efforts to congregate shit together?

Like, details like those are ones that we don't know and can't know unless we're willing to say "tell us about the situation QMs so that we can improve it" - or we could skip a step and say "If Hazou knows about a problem Hazou exercises his discretion and solves the problem.

Lastly, on the point of organization - it's precisely because that we don't have an organization that this style of reform is necessary. If we had a good organization that was capable of implementing high level policy directives immediately, we could just do that - however, because we lack that strong organization, we need build said organization with legitimacy by rapidly achieving a string of successes that improve the lives of the people that the organization is responsible for. We can impart these ideas much more directly to the small reform team rather than the whole clan at once, which makes this organizationally less complex and difficult.
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Thanks, you've changed my view. Reversing my votes.
 
*wakes up*

Uh, guys, if we're voting to not go on a scroll hunt, it might be a good idea to not spend Akane's XP on non-SC things.

[x] Training Akane: none
 
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