It wasn't an explicit discussion, but it literally *has* to work that way based on what's been shown both in canon and onscreen in MfD. Clones are constantly created to do unpleasant or dangerous jobs and they never refuse to do them.
Dangerous jobs can be rationalized by the same thoughts Hazō/Clone Hazō had regarding their own suicide, minus the musing wether it was forced rationalization. As for unpleasant jobs: That would merely require a belief that Clones are inferior beings to originals so ingrained that even your own clone believes it. Top all that off with the original's ability to dispel the clone at will and from any distance and it shouldn't be impossible.
Or to put it differently, most ninja already believe that their lives are worth less than mission failure. Even IRL humans can willingly accept death penalties in various societies. And that's without the (near) certain knowledge that (almost) all that makes you you will live on.
Lastly, I don't actually remember us seeing a Shadow Clone do stuff so truly unpleasant that ninja wouldn't do it on-screen. Most ninja would wade through smelly garbage, resist torture, kill innocent people, endure humiliation, or do boring and tedious tasks if they are required to by a valid superior.
All this is just an argument that not inherently obedient Shadow Clones should be possible without retconning previous work, not that there is any reason to rewrite the current chapter in order to make it so.
Speaking of, how did Hazō's Clone come to the realization that it was ultimately forced to obey? How did that instinct become conscious?
"Be able to reliably roll 22 on your Resolve check" does not remove the disadvantages from the jutsu.
Maybe I am missing something. What is a drawback that using Shadow Clones has, other than costing chakra and causing headaches? Like, imperfect recall of your clone's experiences isn't a drawback compared to no recall of your non-existent clone's experiences.
I don't care. It's a vague bit of fluff that y'all provided no reason or purpose for, so I'm assuming it's just a justification for why Hazō will be coming up with flight-related ideas.
My understanding was that we voted for that to see wether Hazō would notice some sort of consistency in "Wind Spirit" behavior. Not being allowed to insert OOC knowledge directly into Hazō's brain means that any "sudden insights" leading to "inventions" on Hazō's part must ultimately come from the QMs. As long as you don't tell us that Hazō's thinking led to something actionable we can't really act on it. At the same time plausible but wrong actionable thoughts should lead to Hazō at the very least experimenting in that wrong direction later.
But maybe I'm confused, since I neither wrote the plan nor actively participated in that part of it.
@faflec What was the purpose of the "Hazō thinking about air stuff" part of the plan and what did you hope to see because of it?
Yes. They have been for a while.
And did they ever tell Hazō about their mission? If yes, can we still get a scene on it? What would a plan need in order to get that? Or is it just tedious and uninspiring writing that you (the QMs) avoided for good reason and would want to continue to do so? In which case, can we have cliff-notes?
