We'll win if we help out the adoption candidates with their particular problems even if we don't end up adopting them. The THer in particular needs help or she'll die of alcohol posioning within a year or two. Technique hackers is a valuable village resource.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
We'll win if we help out the adoption candidates with their particular problems even if we don't end up adopting them. The THer in particular needs help or she'll die of alcohol posioning within a year or two. Technique hackers is a valuable village resource.
Early brainstorming involves proposing as many ideas as possible, even a lot of unviable ones. Those can be pruned out later on so there should be no shame in Goketsu changing our minds. I'd like to give the clan council (at least the adults) the benefit of the doubt of being rational. Although after the whole threaten Hiashi fiasco I'm a bit unconfident in my social modeling.
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Maybe. At least this time if they don't think of it as brainstorming, we'll just look indecisive, instead of treasonous.
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So there's something I'd like to remind everyone about:
We have recently mailed the Akatsuki an invitation to swing by Leaf and try and negotiate things. If things go very well we may even be able to cooperate with them to enforce peace on the world for at least a little while.
We do not want to make them our scapegoat, if we want to cooperate with them.
We have recently mailed the Akatsuki an invitation to swing by Leaf and try and negotiate things. If things go very well we may even be able to cooperate with them to enforce peace on the world for at least a little while.
We do not want to make them our scapegoat, if we want to cooperate with them.
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More or less. Some minor suggestions below, but otherwise it's good.
[X] Action plan: Who let the dogs out + Necromancy
How is the "no tax hit" supposed to work, exactly? FMPOV the clans that were hit (so, mostly everyone we're talking to in this section) are gonna lose on a lot of revenue due to having lost a fuckton of their ninjas/tax money, and the other/minor clans are gonna benefit due to having been relatively unaffected. Is this something we're supposed to artifically introduce to keep the status quo; how are we signing off on the Minami or Sarutobi on this?
Other:
- There ought to be a thing on pushing getting Kagome working from home. I do believe he's going to snap at some point unless (and even then) we are actively moving to get him out of the sweatshop.
- Mentioning Jiraiya's cache in the Swamp of Death might be a good idea. He's probably got all sorts of notes on the local wildlife, and...at the start of the quest, Keiko noted that the chakra monsters were acting as though they were running from a predator (probably Jiraiya); there might be ideas on how to herd them properly.
- At some point I would like to see us keeping track of our thoughts the way Ami suggested, but that's just me.
Should be spelled "negotiate".
It sounds like if we go the bioplague Rock plan we are hoping that'll stave off war from all other nations for enough time for us to Uplift fast enough to change the status quo such that another world war is against everyone's best interests?
Main reasons Leaf hasn't already ushered in a chakra Uplift revolution is ninja civilian prejudice, needing to devote so many ninja to military, and everyone else gaining up on you when your revolution gives you so much power. Bioterror, if it works, can help relieve ninja manpower. Goketsu influence can deal with prejudice. But the ill will we gain from it will make everyone gaining up on us a problem. Jiraiya never said why Leaf couldn't convince the other nations to copy the revolution approach instead of ganging up on Leaf in that hypothetical situation, but I imagine there would be some reason.
Added land clearing ideas to Rock negotiations
Main reasons Leaf hasn't already ushered in a chakra Uplift revolution is ninja civilian prejudice, needing to devote so many ninja to military, and everyone else gaining up on you when your revolution gives you so much power. Bioterror, if it works, can help relieve ninja manpower. Goketsu influence can deal with prejudice. But the ill will we gain from it will make everyone gaining up on us a problem. Jiraiya never said why Leaf couldn't convince the other nations to copy the revolution approach instead of ganging up on Leaf in that hypothetical situation, but I imagine there would be some reason.
Added land clearing ideas to Rock negotiations
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A year during which we won't be able to fully collaborate with her on research, because she won't be a fellow clanmate, and therefore neither we nor she would be able to fully share each other's secrets.
I really don't see how Haru or Aya are even a consideration. Kaiyo is at least as talented as them; under our wing, she'll continue to grow as fast as they would have, except she'll be starting from a higher point. Her skillset is much more unique and useful for us, and isn't something any of our current clanmates can replicate — unlike Haru and Aya's taijutsu, genjutsu, and weapons. Adopting her now would give us more immediate utility and more long-term utility.
In my view, Yuno is the only other contender. Hopefully we'll manage to go around the current adoption limit, but if we can only adopt one other person and it isn't Yuno, it should be Kaiyo.
I fear the QMs might have forgotten that part.
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Damn, I type stuff slow. Same suggestions as what I gave to Cariyaga above, and also a request that you run things by Mari as per usual.
TBF she's a non-functioning alcoholic from what Noburi's reported (no missions in years), and I'm not entirely sure she's even capable of doing technique hacking the way we want right now. At the very least it'll take months of work to get her back on track, and I'm pretty sure adoption slots will reset by then anyway.
Let's consider it from purely a capability perspective:
As Professor Geralt of Riva might tell you, you don't want to be limited to a screwdriver as a mechanic. That's why he had swords for both monsters and men, crossbows, poisons, magic, etc. Both Haru and Aya looked more of the same.
If I were to rank adoption, I would pick Noda, Haru, and followed by Aya.
- Haru adds firepower, which we have plenty of, plus lighting jutsu which increases lethality for Mari and Kagome.
- Aya adds firepower plus genjutsu, which isn't something present in our generation.
- Noda appeared to be an experienced chunin or higher, plus she has skills in TH, which is something that NONE of the clan possessed in any manner.
As Professor Geralt of Riva might tell you, you don't want to be limited to a screwdriver as a mechanic. That's why he had swords for both monsters and men, crossbows, poisons, magic, etc. Both Haru and Aya looked more of the same.
If I were to rank adoption, I would pick Noda, Haru, and followed by Aya.
How about saying we should remain skeptical of who did it? It could be Rock, could be Akatsuki.
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Alright, this is my first plan. I'm also open to adding additional stuff, but as this plan is already a bit too long, I figured I'd just put it in as is and see what you all thought of it. Feel free to tag me with suggestions for adding stuff or how to trim the plan down.
This plan has been deprecated, see #162,529 for the updated version
[X] Plan: Keep Pandora's Box Shut (324 words)
This plan has been deprecated, see #162,529 for the updated version
- ASAP in private with Mari:
- Talk about Bio-warfare and why we're not okay with it.
- Ask for her help in convincing others away from plague blankets without harming her credibility
- Suggest Skywalker assisted bombing runs of Hidden Rock instead
- Suggest fomenting insurrection within Grass (Rock will be effectively annexing grass with their move)
- Convince Asuma to veto the plague blankets
- This is a massive 'fuck you' to Tsunade
- Bio-warfare can very easily backfire
- If we engage in Bio-warfare, so will our foes, then everyone loses.
- First opportunity after meeting:
- Decide with Mari which of Jiraiya's spy-network notes are useful for Leaf and which we can keep without harming Leaf's NatSec.
- Unconditionally give Asuma translations of all approved notes.
- Offer to help re-establish Jiraiya's spy network.
- Get Kagome out of the seal sweatshop, offer resources or Hazo's scribing (pending Kagome's approval) in exchange.
- Put Ami's suggestions into practice:
- Carry around a journal to note feelings and emotions
- Practice daily with Mari on genjutsu
- When it's convenient
- Interview secretarial candidates
- Find 'skinwastes' to hire for the bank,
- Optimize for ideological compatibility with uplift
- Also look for new Genin, particularly civilian born.
- Meet Noburi's candidates and evaluate:
- Compatibility with uplift
- Compatibility with clan
- Willingness to join clan
- Willingness to become auxillary, working closely with clan for support now + adoption next year.
- Kagome/Noda interaction
- Go with Noburi and Akane to loot Jiraiya's Swamp of Death cache.
- When we have downtime
- Talk with Mari:
- Thank her for her work, and for trusting us in general.
- Talk about morality, get a grasp of her understanding of good/evil.
- Bring up insight about how we are all connected.
- Float Ninja UN idea and what it would take to make it happen
- Ask if she'd like some downtime or prefer a different assignment
- Talk with Keiko, thank her for trusting us with her sister's secret. Express our gratitude for getting us the help we needed
- Talk with Mari:
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Add checking with the clan and I'll vote for it.
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All Leaf's sealmasters got conscripted after the Tower went down and took Leaf's seal stores with it. The only reason Hazou isn't stuck there too is he has a verified sealing injury that makes it unsafe for him to produce seals.
Specifics are unknown, but seals are apparently very finicky and the brushstrokes are required. It's probably possible to create a seal printing press, but how is currently unknown.
Just post them here.
Finally, your plan format does not work. Do not spoil it or it breaks everything.
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Ah, thanks for letting me know, post has been edited.
Also, seal idea:
Projection Screen Seal: 8 tags define two equally sized quadrilaterals A and B, A projects an image of the light B absorbs.
Limitation: All 8 tags must be placed on a single, connected, object.
This seal could be abused to create an invisible 'box' for the user to move around in, however, moving the surfaces is unwieldy, and the illusion quickly falls apart at close range, when something 5 yards away suddenly shifts to appear only two yards away. With the use of skywalkers however, such a seal can be used to conceal the bottom face of a skytower, allowing attackers from above to strike near invisibly.
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[] Action plan: Who let the dogs out
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Oh yeah @Cariyaga @Oneiros With Konoha's spy network shredded it might be prudent to reveal we still have some of Jiraiya's spy notes, however less-than-valuable compared to his full spy network. It'd raise us in the eyes of the clans, get us resources to get the spy network going, and possibly net us some goodies.
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Okay, so maybe the Narrative Hijack plan wasn't as well supported as I thought. In which case:
[X] Action Plan: Internal Political Sausage-Making
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Run plans by the clan.
[X] Action Plan: Internal Political Sausage-Making
Wordcount: 299
Run plans by the clan.
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- Meet adoption candidates:
- Evaluate:
- Candidate fit.
- Willingness to join.
- Scope of issues.
- Wants.
- Offers
- Haru: You get how fucked up this unjust society is. I need your help to burn it down and build a better Leaf.
- Aya: Learning from people like Hazou, Shikamaru, Keiko, Mari, etc. would help her reach her full potential.
- Noda: Makaira and your mother would be sad to see you now. You owe it to them to do better. We'll help you do that. We have experience.
- Evaluate:
- Continue previous tasks.
- Consult Aburame and Inuzuka on chakra beast farming.
- Meet adoption candidates:
- Politics
- Temporary adoption limit increase:
- Reasoning:
- Due to Leaf's current scarcity of higher-ranked ninja and destruction of academic institutions, Leaf should temporarily use the ancient means of educating ninja: the clan.
- Proposal:
- Temporarily increase the clan adoption limit to five ninja per year for three years. Evaluate results.
- Execution:
- Meet allied clans to find the cost of their support.
- Meet hostile clans to find points of agreement.
- Submit consensus plan to Asuma.
- Reasoning:
- Sealing sweatshop conditions
- Continue campaign for better sealmaster conditions or working from home.
- Mention Kagome's reaction to sealing sweatshops to ISC during politicking.
- Continue campaign for better sealmaster conditions or working from home.
- Point of clarification: How are we mitigating downsides like pox blankets backfiring via both plague and Tsunade getting pissed?
- Temporary adoption limit increase:
- Kei
- Thank her for helping us with our mental state. It helped greatly.
- Try to convince the Dog Clan to only accept Goketsu summoners ala the Snakes.
- Jiraiya's legacy
- Continue drawing from or maintaining Jiraiya's resource caches.
- Mention the cache in the Swamp of Death especially, considering the current plan.
- Reactivate portions of his spy networks with notes that we have.
- Reveal a fraction of what we have to get support.
- Continue drawing from or maintaining Jiraiya's resource caches.
- Implement Ami's suggestions.
- Note feelings and emotions in journal.
- Practice daily with Mari on genjutsu.
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[X] Action plan: Who let the dogs out
I like most of the plan. I still don't agree with the pangolin jutsu stuff and teaching the jounin will just mean their clans will all know it but I'm sure Keiko will shut down that train of thought anyway.
I like most of the plan. I still don't agree with the pangolin jutsu stuff and teaching the jounin will just mean their clans will all know it but I'm sure Keiko will shut down that train of thought anyway.
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[X] Action Plan: Internal Political Sausage-Making
@eaglejarl: earlier you said the clan has almost no revenue right now. Did you not include any money Kagome is currently making from the sealing sweatshop, or is he not being paid?
For the love of god don't vote for plans with the belief that the NPCs are going to nix part of them as part of your reasoning.
@eaglejarl: earlier you said the clan has almost no revenue right now. Did you not include any money Kagome is currently making from the sealing sweatshop, or is he not being paid?
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