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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Any folks who endanger that little girl in character are soon to be the "Folks who always never existed."
 
Well, we do have the ability to cause a huge explosion combined with a potentially even more destructive sealing failure in the middle of Konoha, at will. Just thought I'd point that out so we're all clear about that hypothetical.
 
Roomba said:
Well, we do have the ability to cause a huge explosion combined with a potentially even more destructive sealing failure in the middle of Konoha, at will. Just thought I'd point that out so we're all clear about that hypothetical.
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Oh, yes. That reminds me of this comment about Unsong:
Somewhere in this universe is someone, who often finds themself in danger, who carries a special capsule. It's their last resort, for situations so bad that almost any change is for the better. The capsule has a pin, which had two effects when pulled. One is to activate a Name releasing sudden thermal energy. The other is to remove an internal divider, allowing the two halves of the capsule's contents to mix freely. In one half is a sample of goat flesh.

In the other, its mother's milk.
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And this:
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If you can't win, then do your damnedest to make the universe inconsistent.
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It's certainly a Chaotic Evil idea from a multiversal perspective, and Kagome will certainly scream louder than we've ever heard from him if we suggest that, but if we equip each Team Uplift member with a 100-SIN rigged to explode if its owner dies, then publicly explain to everyone what they do, no-one will ever dare to attack us in fear of ending the world (well, except for omnicidal maniacs).

Actually, after the initial period of screaming, Kagome might even approve this. It's the ultimate, fully general "someone hurts your team, you squish them" tool (where "someone" is "the world").

We should do this ASAP. Maybe we'll even manage to horrify Orochimaru with this! It seems I simply cannot stop myself from weaponizing sealing failures.

Edit: No, seriously, let's fucking do this, at least for Hazou. We're constantly forced to interact with S-rankers as a chuunin, let's build some nasty countermeasures to all their bullshit.
 
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Noumero said:
Oh, yes. That reminds me of this comment about Unsong:

And this:

It's certainly a Chaotic Evil idea from a multiversal perspective, and Kagome will certainly scream louder than we've ever heard from him if we suggest that, but if we equip each Team Uplift member with a 100-SIN rigged to explode if its owner dies, then publicly explain to everyone what they do, no-one will ever dare to attack us in fear of ending the world (well, except for omnicidal maniacs).

Actually, after the initial period of screaming, Kagome might even approve this. It's the ultimate, fully general "someone hurts your team, you squish them" tool (where "someone" is "the world").

We should do this ASAP. Maybe we'll even manage to horrify Orochimaru with this! It seems I simply cannot stop myself from weaponizing sealing failures.

Edit: No, seriously, let's fucking do this, at least for Hazou. We're constantly forced to interact with S-rankers as a chuunin, let's build some nasty countermeasures to all their bullshit.
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Sure why not, better to have it and not (hopefully) need it than to need it and not have it. Worst case Hazo's at the end of his rope and he takes Orochimaru/Hidden Rock/etc with him.
 
Noumero said:
Edit: No, seriously, let's fucking do this, at least for Hazou. We're constantly forced to interact with S-rankers as a chuunin, let's build some nasty countermeasures to all their bullshit.
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Nothing would please me more than winning a social confrontation with someone important because we have a dead man's switch hooked up to reality ending dynamite on our persons.

I think we'd need a bigger rep as a crazy reckless shonen asshole first though, otherwise the morons might think we're bluffing.
 
MMKII said:
Nothing would please me more than winning a social confrontation with someone important because we have a dead man's switch hooked up to reality ending dynamite on our persons.

I think we'd need a bigger rep as a crazy reckless shonen asshole first though, otherwise the morons might think we're bluffing.
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We'll soon be known as the inventor of Skywalkers, we're already considered treacherous due to being former missing-nin, and we already have a not-all-there reputation courtesy of the tournament speech. Once we take PotO, this will be magnified further.

But if you think that's not enough, we could always blow a 13-SIN up during the public demonstration. Surely intentionally causing a sealing failure will suffice to give us the necessary reputation.
 
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I can't help but think that announcing to the world that we're a walking sealing failure waiting to happen will swiftly result in our assassination by ANBU.
 
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But if you think that's not enough, we could always blow a 13-SIN up during the public demonstration. Surely intentionally causing a sealing failure will suffice to give us the necessary reputation.
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And then the watchers will kill us, having drained all the chakra from the 100-sin so that it goes inert and loses its storage pointers.

Edit: More seriously, if we're going to be "the storage scroll guy" anyway, we might as well double down and start researching storage scroll pairs where one is the input and the other is the output, non-time-stopped scrolls, scroll duplication, and the like.

Edit 2: Heh, I like the idea of being "that one ninja who became S-rank with only storage scrolls."
 
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Yes, that's an obvious issue we'll need to solve. A seal which activates if its wearer dies is a good start.
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I mean, they'll just kidnap Hazou, inject him with poison, and deposit him on a boat a couple miles from shore. Don't tell me you can't think of a dozen ways to circumvent a straightforward dead man's switch.
 
Roomba said:
I mean, they'll just kidnap Hazou, inject him with poison, and deposit him on a boat a couple miles from shore. Don't tell me you can't think of a dozen ways to circumvent a straightforward dead man's switch.
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Not sure about that. They sound pretty complacent as far as black ops military divisions go--they didn't even get as far down as we did in the Basement.

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Aside:Why havent we set their bar tabs to "infinity, on us" again? We should put that on the to-do list.
 
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inject him with poison, and deposit him on a boat a couple miles from shore
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That's nowhere near sufficient to deal with all possible, or even all likely, failures. Rifts, non-local failures, time-travelling failures, memetic threats... And the failures will almost certainly compound. Rift to the blade-monster world will become larger and start spawning eldritch abominations which kill you if you see them, that Skywalker-failure will start spreading backwards in time along Hazou's worldline, self-replicating crystals will start consuming space itself, et cetera. The point is that the 100-SIN isn't a village-ending threat, it's a world-ending one. Not being near it won't save you.

Or at least if it causes multiple failures, not just one large failure. I think it's plausible, as far as we know. Let's never test that in case I'm wrong.
 
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MMKII said:
Nothing would please me more than winning a social confrontation with someone important because we have a dead man's switch hooked up to reality ending dynamite on our persons.

I think we'd need a bigger rep as a crazy reckless shonen asshole first though, otherwise the morons might think we're bluffing.
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Naruto: I told you Hazo, it's admirable how you're willing to throw yourself in danger for your family but reality has to hit you eventually. Orochimaru is just proof of that.

*Proceeds to build a dead switch SIN vest*

Hazo: Don't worry, NOW I'm ready to deal with Orochimaru!

Naruto:...Holy shit you're a lunatic
 
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That's nowhere near sufficient to deal with all possible, or even all likely, failures. Rifts, non-local failures, time-travelling failures, memetic threats... And the failures will almost certainly compound. Rift to the blade-monster world will become larger and start spawning eldritch abominations which kill you if you see them, that Skywalker-failure will start spreading backwards in time along Hazou's worldline, self-replicating crystals will start consuming space itself, et cetera. The point is that the 100-SIN isn't a village-ending threat, it's a world-ending one. Not being near it won't save you.

Or at least if it causes multiple failures, not just one large failure, which is at least plausible, as far as we know. Let's never test that in case we're wrong.
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They might try and knock us out or something, and take the seals away/damage them while we can't activate anything. It would be extremely risky though, so probably only something they'd try if we really start being a problem. Kind of like Orochimaru, probably. As long as we don't start slaughtering people in broad daylight, it's probably not worth it to take the risks necessary to reign us in.
Hmmm. Might not be a bad idea, if we can get it past the Kagome scream test.
 
So, am I the only one who thinks that SINs don't abritrarily fail at 13, but it was instead a random failure from breaking a sealing scroll in nonstandard ways, made more likely due to a higher number of seals?

There's a reason Kagome told Mari off for having civvies use storage scrolls as one time use extradimensional backpacks.

Im pretty sure we *could* get up to city ending SINs, there's just an increased chance of a sealing failure.

Also, a life saving purifier could be a 1 seal nuke. Turn off the output, leave it on for a few weeks. Throw it on a kunai with an explosive tag. Bye-bye village.
 
Twinnstars said:
So, am I the only one who thinks that SINs don't abritrarily fail at 13, but it was instead a random failure from breaking a sealing scroll in nonstandard ways, made more likely due to a higher number of seals?
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Implosion Seals self-destruct when used conventionally too. If it was as you say, Kagome would've never used them.

Presumably he designed them to reliably unstore their contents upon destruction.
 
This quest is not going to end because we picked a fight with various S-rankers but because Hazou tripped on some stairs which triggered his world ending dead man's switch, right?
 
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