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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
- Thread starter eaglejarl
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard
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accuracy is speed over long stretches of time, especially when you're right every time
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- Pacific standard
Thats why we need all that space for the academy, many rooms for nascent sealmasters
Emstar
The Shining One
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accuracy is speed over long stretches of time, especially when you're right every time
Yeah I'm still assuming that everyone prints seals like a printing press and doesn't spend an equivalent amount of time checking the blanks over or something. It could easily take 60-70 hours to get 100 skywalker pairs if you spend time checking blanks to make sure you didn't smudge stuff.
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I'm pretty sure that we got confirmation from you guys that we can turn accuracy into speed though.
The process was "attempt to draw a seal 50% faster" until we got it once, then we had that permanent buff for producing that seal faster. The mechanics side of it was rolling our calligraphy for that seal with a minor - significant malus dependant on how much faster we were trying to go.
This is incredibly stupid for anyone who doesn't have IN, which is why other people stay so slow. It makes sense for us to do, since we're mostly drawing the same seals over and over (sky tower quotas, skywalker quotas, infinite explosives)
Emstar
The Shining One
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That was more of a vague "We aren't totally against it" than a "Yes." IIRC.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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- United States
That's not an assumption we're making here.
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
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The classic method here is "get the civilians to sell their land to you, which makes the civilian land clan land, which means they don't owe taxes to the Daimyo anymore. Keep taxing them, but at a lower rate than the Hokage does. Hope the Hokage has bigger fish to fry than you pinching a single acre of chakra-beast infested hellscape somewhere in the boonies."
Everyone wins except the Hokage.
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I found it! Hehe I am the faflec now
Emstar
The Shining One
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Not to linger on this too much, but this is actually a super big deal if we can pull this off.
We get to roughly double the amount of our logistical manpower with two decently competent but not super OP Nara working full-time work weeks with us. We might be able to bargain for some extra stuff there too at a lesser scale (20 hours of one of his Journeyman tier [better than Noburi but not Tsunade or Kabuto] mednin , to spend healing retainer's families and associates , charity work, etc. or something else).
Shikamaru is happy with us, because we have just freed up two of his Kagome's spare time. They are less unhappy if they are already working backbreaking hours to meet the tax burden of the Nara Jonin or for themselves. They can work on projects for themselves or the clan , or kick back and nap. We have also given two of his competent but average-ish clanmates jobs that will give them good experience.
Half of the thread will be happy, because we are getting tangible shit out of the Nara.
The other half of the thread will be happy, because we are acting in a pro-social manner towards the Nara.
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Agreed, though I do want to haggle pretty aggressively. Shika did lie to us the last time we spoke, while we've consistently acted in good faith. Not cool bruh.
Emstar
The Shining One
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I don't think its unreasonable to be honest and open in negotiations to try and get good value for your time. People do this with each other even if they're bestest buds.
So yeah, we should ask Keiko to guesstimate the in-house value of different types of Nara hours first.
accuracy is speed over long stretches of time, especially when you're right every time
Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.
Got that from a tv show.
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But aren't those really the same thing? Hazo doesn't have to spend time verifying the seals - which is a process nearly as long as making the things. Also, I know he isn't actually faster moving the brush, but by virtue of not needing to be constantly vigilant he doesn't burn out from pouring attention into it the way most sealmasters would.
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I see no way in which this could go badly. You should absolutely do that. I'm sure it will all turn out well.
Emstar
The Shining One
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If we're going to do clever tax bullshit we need Jason Bateman's character from Ozark (7.5/10 show, would rec.), half a dozen Yakuza cells along with their accountants/bookies, and a bunch of folks with working knowledge of the market for a variety of goods.
We at least have that last bit if our contracted merchants ever get around to stopping by.
We at least have that last bit if our contracted merchants ever get around to stopping by.
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Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
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Yeah, this does have the historical issue of "the local military power that's bigger than you comes and steps on you."
Emstar
The Shining One
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I don't have an issue with this as long as Kenta or Mrs. I vouches that they're good people.
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You know that update makes it look like the village's founding laws are there to keep the wealth away from the Clanless so they're wage-slaves without too much time to train or too much to spend on good equipment.
The Merchant Council system stops them from becoming successful entrepreneurs with their skills, the 80% Tax Rate stops them from building up capital to live off and the No Violence Against Civilians law could be selectively applied to stop them from extorting civilians while letting patron Founding Clans get away with the same thing with political pull or regulatory bullshit.
As long as the Merchants don't have chakra and the Clanless don't have money neither are able to act as political forces to threaten the Clans.
EDIT: Does Konoha have an inheritance tax? If it does the Clans might work as Trusts to dodge it by putting all it's members' money into the Clan then paying out UBI to the members. Meanwhile the Clanless get stripped of inter-generational wealth building.
The Merchant Council system stops them from becoming successful entrepreneurs with their skills, the 80% Tax Rate stops them from building up capital to live off and the No Violence Against Civilians law could be selectively applied to stop them from extorting civilians while letting patron Founding Clans get away with the same thing with political pull or regulatory bullshit.
As long as the Merchants don't have chakra and the Clanless don't have money neither are able to act as political forces to threaten the Clans.
EDIT: Does Konoha have an inheritance tax? If it does the Clans might work as Trusts to dodge it by putting all it's members' money into the Clan then paying out UBI to the members. Meanwhile the Clanless get stripped of inter-generational wealth building.
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Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
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Yeah, this does historically come with a noticeable risk of getting your head lopped off. If it's small enough you get tolerated, but you can also get stepped on pretty hard.
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
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Rihaku
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In addition, any Clanless that become powerful enough to shake up the system (full Jounin) are inducted into the Clan Benefits system with attendant UBI and tax advantages, so they're incentivized to perpetrate the system instead of opposing it, and those below them are given a goal to aspire towards that promotes the overall strength of Leaf.
Of course, the lot of a clanless ninja is still much better than that of virtually any civilian, even highly wealthy civilian merchants.
Rural Civilians = Third Worlders, Subsistence Poverty
Urban Civilians = Wage Slaves, Middle to Lower Middle-Class
Clanless Ninja = Highly Paid Professionals, Doctor/Lawyer-level pay
Sealmasters, Jounin, Non-Founding Clans = New Money
Founding Clans = Old Money
Petty Nobility are higher than urban civlians but lower than Clanless Ninja. The Daimyo holds significant wealth for a civilian but would be unable to match the riches of even a single Non-Founding Clan.
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So you're saying land will be really cheap to buy from the Daimyo, got it
Especially if we frame it as "land to do sealing/jutsu experiments on", which is technically true.
We're testing how effective force walls are at being uber ploughs
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