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She had defeated a social-spec stronger than Mari-sensei, on her home ground and without a plan.
Sure you did, Keiko. :rolleyes:
she and Hana could become friends after all
And isn't Hana just a great person? She made you feel better and even complimented your skill!

Hana merely conceded an argument without promising anything substantial. There are plenty of ways to put that woman down without open hostility.
 
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It's really weird for Keiko to just fix things like that. It's especially weird for Keiko to win social fu against someone who is presumably leagues better than her. I expect that Hana actually won and just let Keiko think she won because she didn't want Keiko infuriated with her.

Also Mari is legitimately a pretty messed up human being.
 
Hey guys, we respected other characters agency and got badass Keiko fixing things.

But didn't Keiko violate Hazou's, Hana's and Mari's agency by butting into their fight?

A behavioral trait she must have learned from Hazou himself. One which resulted in fixing the problem.

Do you guys know what this means?
Ignoring NPC agency just got validated by a QM as the most optimal strategy for any situation - so lets keep doing it.

In fact, I hope the winning plan includes Hazou finding a girlfriend for Noburi because he is such a nice bro and he deserves to be happy. We should ask Mom for tips.
 
I can only presume this is all according to plan.

Hana's Hivemind is a pile of geniuses.

Meh, I don't see it. Obviously once the conversation begins Hana was navigating it well; but she still had to make some concessions.

It seems the 'get Mari out of here' plan would have been better if this entire conversation didn't happen at all.

Also remember Keiko has 21 in diplomacy. It's not bad.
 
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@Velorien

Is it permissible for plans to have Hazou retroactively training with Hana before Keiko arrived?

Spend some more time with Hana and invite her to game night.
  • Possible conflicts of interest, but would it be possible to learn skills or tricks using Iron Nerve?
  • Tips for training Alertness and/or Chakra Capacity
 
We need to get Keiko Shadow Clones ASAP. If clone!Keiko really wouldn't have Frozen Skein, can you imagine what the two of them would be able to accomplish together? A motivated Keiko gets results. What would a motivated Keiko with a self-made plan be capable of?

Perhaps we don't need Ami after all.
Ignoring NPC agency just got validated by a QM as the most optimal strategy for any situation - so lets keep doing it.
That's not the lesson I took from it...? The most optimal strategy1​ for any situation is to throw an angry Keiko at the problem.

1. Or at least Step 1 of the strategy.
 
For reference, the character sheets are in my sig. Social builds are below, dump stats are in red, important stats are in blue. For why some stats are important and others aren't, see my numerous rants on the subject.

Hazou:
  • Deceit 24
  • Empathy 10
  • Intimidation 5+4
  • Presence 15
  • Rapport 10
  • Resolve 20
Noburi:
  • Deceit 8
  • Empathy 20
  • Intimidation 9+4
  • Presence 10
  • Rapport 24
  • Resolve 20
Noburi is fine for now. Kei is in a really weird position where we might have to just minmax Intimidation, but it would be better if we could switch her focuses around without wrecking her build in the process. As to Hazou, we need to get him more Empathy, use Empathy as his main, and get him the Forged in Fire stunt (which switches the TYS bonus from Intimidation to Empathy and Rapport, meaning if he had Empathy 20 then it would become 20+4 instead).
 
For reference, the character sheets are in my sig. Social builds are below, dump stats are in red, important stats are in blue. For why some stats are important and others aren't, see my numerous rants on the subject.
I was under the impression that we proposed a rebalance/buff that met with your approval. Am I wrong?
 
Eh, I count it as a win for Keiko. She isn't a sobbing, incoherent mess on par with with Hana after she thought that Hazou was killed-killed.
I would praise you for giving the QMs ideas, but I feel like Mari is already filling that party slot quite well.

Um... I don't recall such a conversation. Although that's not to say it didn't happen. I don't suppose you can find the quote?
Please stand by while we try to correct you.
 
I was under the impression that we proposed a rebalance/buff that met with your approval. Am I wrong?
This one? I wrote an analysis on it, but I don't think it was ever stated that that was a proposed reform. If it is though, it looks good.

e: As far as MadScientist's stat spreads go, though, our prospective stat spreads should remain the same for Hazou and Noburi. Not sure about Keiko, though.
 
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