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It's a bit bare bones but, sure why not. Unfortunately don't have more time to throw more suggestions at people because sleepy time but I like the idea of H&H just hanging out. This has been a long time coming.

[X] Action Plan: Let it Go: The Redux
Intentionally so!

Honestly, as much as we meme about it, we can trust the QMs to make good faith interpretations of our votes, and this vote is basically "Hazou relaxes with his mom. Write what scenes you wish." Incidentally -- I don't think it's a bad idea to give the QMs free reign with scenes now and then.
 
Also,



I strongly disagree with the hyperfocus on taking only "rational" actions. At best, you are constantly following incentive gradients as determined by your personal search horizon. Like, I almost want to do a small brain, big brain, galaxy brain meme here where the start and endpoints are "do things that make you happy" with a bunch of convoluted scaffolding interspersed with signaling nonsense inbetween.

I think here I was using rational to mean realistic, in the sense that this is "rational Naruto". In the real world, a lieutenant does NOT deliver cookies as wry teasing to a 5 star general whom he doesnt know. I wouldn't send cookies to my company's VP even if he made a joke about cookies in a conversation we had once. In canon Naruto this kind of random spunk is endearing, but in a "rational" take on the setting, I'd expect it to come across as socially awkward and annoying (similarly to how our request to spar Asuma went).

I actually just want Hazou to have an excuse to interact with Kakashi outside of professional life, in a way that Kakashi might actually respond to. I mean, this is Kakashi. How else do you get his attention without being a little eccentric?
I can't really see it hurting us to deliver cookies to Kakashi, either.
Personally I think Hazou is already pretty eccentric by his society's standards and if we want to be taken seriously in those aspects that we care about more, we should try not to compound that with extra craziness.
 
I wouldn't send cookies to my company's VP even if he made a joke about cookies in a conversation we had once.

Really? Damn. I bought mine a bottle of Kraken as a joke and got a raise and a promotion.

E:

Personally I think Hazou is already pretty eccentric by his society's standards and if we want to be taken seriously in those aspects that we care about more, we should try not to compound that with extra craziness.

But seriously, countersignalling is a thing too.

I agree the cookies thing is pretty inane and not even particularly effective on that front, but it's really, incredibly minor, and tbh my greatest gripe with our decisions throughout the quest is that we are way too serious about insignificant details, and not nearly serious enough about the things that actually matter.

...It's almost like those things are hard and we know that and want to be serious about serious things, but are afraid of failure, and so all of that seriousness gets transferred to affecting ridiculously minor optimizations.
 
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Really? Damn. I bought mine a bottle of Kraken as a joke and got a raise and a promotion.

E:



But seriously, countersignalling is a thing.

I agree the cookies thing is pretty inane and not very effective on that front, but it's really, incredibly minor, and tbh my greatest gripe with our decisions throughout the quest is that we are way too serious about insignificant details, and not nearly serious enough about the things that actually matter.

...It's almost like those things are hard and we know that and want to be serious about serious things, but are afraid of failure, and so all of that seriousness gets transferred to affecting ridiculously minor optimizations.

Yeah, definitely depends on how well you know the VP! There are directors whom I'd happily Smirnoff Ice, but as far as I know Hazou's only real interaction with Kakashi was asking to hang out and Kakashi telling Hazou he's busy. I think you're right that this isn't that big a deal; we might seem weird and mildly annoying but at least we're not demanding his time; worst case he'll be a bit bemused or annoyed. It seems like a running thread in our interactions this last update was "Hazou presuming he's important enough to take people's time when he should know better" and I'd like to avoid that, but you've convinced me that this doesn't make that meaningfully worse.

Also while I'm on the topic... I'm totally team lean on mom for emotional support if we want because he absolutely is important enough to her enough to be worth her time and attention!
 
"Hazou presuming he's important enough to take people's time when he should know better"

Yeah, I'd have liked to improve on that front. I think the concern was brought up a time or two and was even addressed in some version of the Plan, but my silly inanity vote won out somehow and I failed to adequately channel the hivemind in edits. Sorry. :cry:

(Not all of us can be as awesome as @faflec)
 
[X] A Simple BLAM... with cookies

Hana
  • Introduce Hana to the clan.
  • When asked about missing clan members, remember OPSEC and let Mari handle it.
  • Try to steer her interactions with Mari-sensei to safe waters, like plans for Game Night
  • Hey, look, it's a distraction Kagome-sensei! Gently introduce two of our beloved family members. Encourage them to swap stories, if necessary, while baking OPSEC cookies for when we find Kakashi.
  • Catch up with Mom. Tell her about our adventures, details redacted or edited as necessary for OPSEC.
  • If mom's not too tired, confide in her about girl problems

A Very Secret Mission
  • Hazō's got a sense of a huge thing potentially going down.
    • He proceed to draw skywalker seals this evening. Then implosion seals. Then whatever he deemed potentially useful in a battle.
    • Ask Kagome to assist. Remember OPSEC.
 
Also, Kagome-sensei and Keiko deserved some credit for their contributions to the skywalkers and the Exams.

Since the new accepted venue for influencing Hazou thoughts is posting your own thoughts, I have a whole graveyard's worth of bones to pick with this. Particularly the Exams.

Forget the "Some" part. Focus on how only Keiko gets mentioned. Noburi should be getting mad respect. These are just the accomplishments that I remember:
  • He schooled team bloodrage so thoroughly it probably got Naruto rescued.
  • Covered for us in the Yakuza meetings.
  • Saved our sorry ass when we were unconscious in a tunnel.
  • He thought of the OPSEC idea of going out on the water.
  • That crazy trick defusing the stack of explosion seals
  • As I will never tire of mentioning, he rolled a 78. He could have literally fought the entire 9 ninja team blindfolded.
Noburi is a beast. I drew up plans during the exams that involved him soloing a whole team, but only because I didn't think we could get multiple teams to follow us onto open water. I thought the plan would only fail if S rankers or Jonin got involved, but since he rolled a 78 I think it would depend on the Jonin.
 
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Since the new accepted venue for influencing Hazou thoughts is posting your own thoughts, I have a whole graveyard's worth of bones to pick with this. Particularly the Exams.

Forget the "Some" part. Focus on how only Keiko gets mentioned. Noburi should be getting mad respect. These are just the accomplishments that I remember:
  • He schooled team bloodrage so thoroughly it probably got Naruto rescued.
  • Covered for us in the Yakuza meetings.
  • Saved our sorry ass when we were unconscious in a tunnel.
  • He thought of the OPSEC idea of going out on the water.
  • That crazy trick defusing the stack of explosion seals
  • As I will never tire of mentioning, he rolled a 78. He could have literally fought the entire 9 ninja team blindfolded.
Noburi is a beast. I drew up plans during the exams that involved him soloing a whole team, but only because I didn't think we could get multiple teams to follow us onto open water. I thought the plan would only fail if S rankers or Jonin got involved, but since he rolled a 78 I think it would depend on the Jonin.
Keiko gets ALL the ratings.

How many likes for our Boy in Blue?

That Monster of a Med-nin.

The Jolly Jutsu Juggernaut!

The TITAN of TEAMWORK!!

N O B U R I
 
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I think instead of venting or talking about specific things, we can probably just tell Mom about the highlights of everything (good and bad).

Hana-pilot should be able to take it from there, I think.

Perhaps we need to be a bit louder, it seems the kid's got some shit caked up into the trans-dimensional interface.
Bonus XP be damned, I've gotten at least one or two of those OOC and by thunder if I need to write a thousand Omakes to slam this into this kids head, I will.


We are under the limit.

Wordcount: 133
[X] Action Plan: Tonight We Fix the Kid

Spend FP to resist any compels.
Hazou maintains strict OPSEC despite his emotionally vulnerable state.

  • Quickly take Mom aside.
    • Explain how we would rather she be civil to Mari at least until tomorrow.
      • Please?
  • Introduce her to everyone!
    • Especially Kagome-sensei!
  • Spend some quality time with Mom after dinner making OPSEC "cookies".
    • We should have acquired the ingredients
  • Come home and chill in your room with Hana.
    • Put up air domes for privacy
  • Catch up:
  • Hug Momma.
  • Thank her for being there.
  • Go to bed.
 
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I think that Air Domes are extremely unnecessary within the center of the Goketsu compounds past all of Kagome's various defenses.
 
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I think instead of venting or talking about specific things, we can probably just tell Mom about the highlights of everything (good and bad).

Hana-pilot should be able to take it from there, I think.

There's a lot of shit that Hazō cannot tell mom about. Can we stow it for the time being until we get Mari and Jiraiya to help with opsec?
 
There's a lot of shit that Hazō cannot tell mom about. Can we stow it for the time being until we get Mari and Jiraiya to help with opsec?
Easy fix.


Perhaps we need to be a bit louder, it seems the kid's got some shit caked up into the trans-dimensional interface.
Bonus XP be damned, I've gotten at least one or two of those OOC and by thunder if I need to write a thousand Omakes to slam this into this kids head, I will.


We are under the limit.

Wordcount: 144
[X] Action Plan: Tonight We Fix the Kid

Spend FP to resist any compels.
Hazou maintains strict OPSEC despite his emotionally vulnerable state.

  • Quickly take Mom aside.
    • Explain how we would rather she be civil to Mari at least until tomorrow.
      • Please?
  • Introduce her to everyone!
    • Especially Kagome-sensei!
  • Spend some quality time with Mom after dinner making OPSEC "cookies".
    • We should have acquired the ingredients
  • Come home and chill in your room with Hana.
    • Put up air domes for privacy.
  • Catch up:
  • Hug Momma.
  • Thank her for being there.
  • Go to bed.
 
I don't think it's simple as "don't spill any secret"?

I should fix that in my plan TBH. I totally see flaws.
How many times would you like the word OPSEC to show up before you are satisfied the child will not blurt any obvious and important secrets out?

Despite me having "Use FP to resist compels" in bold as the topmost bulletpoint, and the secondmost being a bolded statement on OPSEC preservation, you seem unconvinced.

I am >99% certain that there are no risks as is, even before I wasted a few words on adding "OPSEC" in a few more times. I'm not going to not have the kid talk to his mother because we think there is an epsilon chance he'll let slip some mildly important secret.
 
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