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The basic contingencies we had when we made our first contact with the jeweler. Don't split the party up. Have escape routes planned. Have spotters prepare an ambush. Assume that every contact might be a ninja. Have a bit of paranoia.

Per WoG, we might actually get screwed over if the entire team is here.

Also, it is unlikely an operation from Jiraiya. We are breathing in poison gas after all.
 
The basic contingencies we had when we made our first contact with the jeweler. Don't split the party up. Have escape routes planned. Have spotters prepare an ambush. Assume that every contact might be a ninja. Have a bit of paranoia.

The Hozuki Mantle would have kinda fucked us this time around because of the MC reduction. The only advantage would have been Kagome who maybe could have blown her into pieces.
 
OK so here's a basic subplan for getting the fuck out of here. It's not complete since I'm trying to figure out if the Jonin would stay to trip us up and why they'd do that instead of digging below the Air Dome to destroy one of the two seals before killing us.
  • Main Questline:
    • Dispel.
    • Heal whatever Noburi can do quickly medical-wise. Do not push him given what's already happened to us (disorientation, malus die).
      • Do this while we're doing everything else.
    • Confirm that the ninja has actually left the house.
      • Activate Earth Release: Living Roots to track the enemy's movements.
      • Activate Misterators inside the dome.
      • Create clones (Earth or Water, it doesn't matter). Give Purifier seals + storage seal.
      • Activate a second Air Dome, such that clones are between the two domes.
      • Clones deactivate the outermost Air Dome.
      • Noburi uses mist sense and checks for hostile chakra signatures.
    • Search the house.
      • Clones activate Purifier seals to remove traces of poison.
      • Clones search house for information/clues on WTF JUST HAPPENED.
      • Clones remove seals from Minami's body, then seal her in a storage seal.
    • Escape.
      • Calculate the nearest position to natural cover (trees, hills...).
      • Use explosives to blow up the side of the house facing that cover.
        • Also do the same with another point in the house, and send in fake clones of us (1 Hazou + 1 Noburi) going in that direction.
      • Run. Chakra boost and Misterator our path.
      • After getting to cover, Skywalk away.
Note that this technically isn't the safest way to escaping. That would be using multiple rounds of Air Dome seals to provide a consistent barrier as we ran. But it's a slow-as-fuck method relying heavily on clones, and if the Jonin cared enough to stop us the Air Domes wouldn't be enough.
 
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The basic contingencies we had when we made our first contact with the jeweler. Don't split the party up. Have escape routes planned. Have spotters prepare an ambush. Assume that every contact might be a ninja. Have a bit of paranoia.
If you didn't split the party up, I think things would have got worse. You could have won, but there would definitely have been more casualties. (Reminder: she one-shotted the one person to attack her, and was immune to MC bonuses.)

What escape routes could you have prepared from a building with exactly one exit which the jōnin made a point of locking?

Whom would you be ambushing, and where, after the jōnin sealed you in?

What would you have done differently under the assumption that this contact might be a ninja?
 
OK so here's a basic subplan for getting the fuck out of here. It's not complete since I'm trying to figure out if the Jonin would stay to trip us up and why they'd do that instead of digging below the Air Dome to destroy one of the two seals before killing us.
  • Main Questline:
    • Heal whatever Noburi can do quickly medical-wise. Do not push him given what's already happened to us (disorientation, malus die).
    • Confirm that the ninja has actually left the house.
      • Activate Misterators inside the dome.
      • Create clones (Earth or Water, it doesn't matter). Give Purifier seals + storage seal.
      • Activate a second Air Dome, such that clones are between the two domes.
      • Clones deactivate the outermost Air Dome.
      • Noburi uses mist sense and checks for hostile chakra signatures.
    • Search the house.
      • Clones activate Purifier seals to remove traces of poison.
      • Clones search house for information/clues on WTF JUST HAPPENED.
      • Clones remove seals from Minami's body, then seal her in a storage seal.
    • Escape.
      • Calculate the nearest position to natural cover (trees, hills...).
      • Use explosives to blow up the side of the house facing that cover.
      • Run. Chakra boost and Misterator our path.
      • After getting to cover, Skywalk away.
Note that this technically isn't the safest way to escaping. That would be using multiple rounds of Air Dome seals to provide a consistent barrier as we ran. But it's a slow-as-fuck method relying heavily on clones, and if the Jonin cared enough to stop us the Air Domes wouldn't be enough.

Step Zero: Dispel.
 
Also, it is unlikely an operation from Jiraiya. We are breathing in poison gas after all.

Another point against it being Jiraiya is also that he couldn't have known that we would split up and that 5 chunnin (one jonin?) vs 1 jonin isn't a very safe bet for precision killing of a single ninja. Jiraiya would probably do something different, but who knows.

This mission really hasn't been kind to Minami, has it?

From funny and smart genki girl to stoic forced professional killer to a corpse. Fun times indeed.

Sorry @Vecht, good luck with your next character.
 
When we first started the mission we where super paranoid. Had spotters. Had escape routes. Had an ambush set up. After that we got auto missioned every time. Then we got punished for it in this update. Basically we can't expect any degree of compotence from the team so have micro manage everything. Which will slow every thing down.

Truthfully, that seems entirely in-character. It's just not human nature to be able to maintain constant paranoia in the face of the seeming routine. The danger didn't seem very great. I mean, already some voters are convinced that Jiraiya ordered the hit (I don't buy it) because we can't conceive how this could have happened! That's how not-in-danger we felt.

OK so here's a basic subplan for getting the fuck out of here. It's not complete since I'm trying to figure out if the Jonin would stay to trip us up and why they'd do that instead of digging below the Air Dome to destroy one of the two seals before killing us.

I know the assassin wanted to act cool and in control, but staying to attack a sealmaster who has foiled your ambush and has time to start pulling out seals seems like a poor choice. Even for a jounin.

She really has no way of knowing what Hazou has in his pocket if she wants to dig under the air dome and force the fight to keep going. Maybe he has enough explosion seals on his person to make sure they all die together. (SPOILER: He does!)
 
When we first started the mission we where super paranoid. Had spotters. Had escape routes. Had an ambush set up. After that we got auto missioned every time. Then we got punished for it in this update. Basically we can't expect any degree of compotence from the team so have micro manage everything. Which will slow every thing down.

Like I said before I didn't expect the community and QMs to go for smaller less detailed plans. Then the second time it gets implemented we suffer our first team death.
CCnJ: I perceive your attitude as very rude and combative and it bothers me. You talk about the QMs "punishing you", which I think is a maladaptive attitude for the goal of everyone having fun. You talk about how the team "cannot show competence", yet I see a lack of willingness to accept responsibility yourself: You did not vote, you did not suggest a plan, you did not suggest any contingencies, yet you throw shade. It would make me happy if you redirected some of your efforts towards fixing the issues that you are instead simply criticizing. As a very simple first step in that: if you don't vote and you don't offer suggestions then you should not complain if things don't go the way you like.
 
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Hazou should use Living Root's to confirm her leave, I mean if he activates it right know he should be able to tell if someone is going away or notm, even if he can't pin point her directly.
Clones who aren't moving will be able to dodge the technique, that's the other reason I'm using such a convoluted method.

For that matter, we have no proof that the being who killed Minami is the actual Jonin, and not a clone.

Though there is not serious loss...I'll add it.
 
Jumping at shadows, I'm afraid.

I knew it, and apparently everyone realized
OK so here's a basic subplan for getting the fuck out of here. It's not complete since I'm trying to figure out if the Jonin would stay to trip us up and why they'd do that instead of digging below the Air Dome to destroy one of the two seals before killing us.
  • Main Questline:
    • Dispel.
    • Heal whatever Noburi can do quickly medical-wise. Do not push him given what's already happened to us (disorientation, malus die).
    • Confirm that the ninja has actually left the house.
      • Activate Misterators inside the dome.
      • Create clones (Earth or Water, it doesn't matter). Give Purifier seals + storage seal.
      • Activate a second Air Dome, such that clones are between the two domes.
      • Clones deactivate the outermost Air Dome.
      • Noburi uses mist sense and checks for hostile chakra signatures.
    • Search the house.
      • Clones activate Purifier seals to remove traces of poison.
      • Clones search house for information/clues on WTF JUST HAPPENED.
      • Clones remove seals from Minami's body, then seal her in a storage seal.
    • Escape.
      • Calculate the nearest position to natural cover (trees, hills...).
      • Use explosives to blow up the side of the house facing that cover.
        • Also do the same with another point in the house, and send in fake clones of us (1 Hazou + 1 Noburi) going in that direction.
      • Run. Chakra boost and Misterator our path.
      • After getting to cover, Skywalk away.
Note that this technically isn't the safest way to escaping. That would be using multiple rounds of Air Dome seals to provide a consistent barrier as we ran. But it's a slow-as-fuck method relying heavily on clones, and if the Jonin cared enough to stop us the Air Domes wouldn't be enough.

Why are we getting back to One Big Plan anyway?
 
Is it in-character for the Yakuza to leave people alive to spread the tale "don't mess with the Yakuza"? Or is this ninja tricking us into believing it such that we'd lower our guard?

Does this ninja even care about our guard or lack thereof given their proven combat power over us?
 
Though keep in mind, he was the one who gave us the air purifier and tunnelers friend. Why wouldn't he think we use them at the sign of poison gas being used?

Also, the jonin just standing around in the air dome doesn't seem right unless they were waiting for us to do something like that...

Keep in mind that this situation would have gone MUCH WORSE per WoG.

There is no way that Jiraiya would deliberately frag his own clanmates in attempt to eliminate Minami, which is going to happen if everyone is there. What would be the point of gaining more family members and losing it and seeing your wife in tear?
 
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I knew it, and apparently everyone realized


Why are we getting back to One Big Plan anyway?

Short plans resulted in minimal discussion, which resulted in a one line plan getting voted in with no contingencies or suggestions. From an EXP standpoint alone that's going to cost us significantly, and while a more detailed plan might not have helped us here it can very easily mean the difference between life and death in other situations.
 
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