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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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HoratioVonBecker said:
Well, it might be worth discussing that with her. It might also be worth trying red-tinted goggles. And past experience also suggests that, at least for me, it takes about a week to get results. We try things. Thank you for listening.
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One thing I can share from my end is a program called f.lux, if you're unfamiliar with it. You give it your general location, and it tints the screen slightly red between sunset and sunrise. I think there's an iPhone version too. There's an analogous Android app called Twilight.
 
I wonder if Hazo could develop a seal which creates a magical weight, allowing him to imitate the Gei-and-Lee trick of ankle and wrist weights without actually carrying around hundreds of pounds of iron?
 
Raxner said:
I wonder if Hazo could develop a seal which creates a magical weight, allowing him to imitate the Gei-and-Lee trick of ankle and wrist weights without actually carrying around hundreds of pounds of iron?
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I just want gravity-affecting seals. :D

Or maybe a combination of force-generating seals, force-reversing seals, and force-halting seals. Make yourself a puppet to the seals you use.
 
Cariyaga said:
I just want gravity-affecting seals. :D
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Yeah, we could have them balance the earth on their noses! We could reward them with Mari-sensei's congee!

Actually, balancing the earth on your nose isn't such a great trick, come to think of it. After all, I balance the earth on the soles of my feet every day.
 
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Cariyaga said:
Or maybe a combination of force-generating seals, force-reversing seals, and force-halting seals. Make yourself a puppet to the seals you use.
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Man, thinking about this, it'd be really brutal for taijutsu. Just being able to reverse the direction of force instantly would be terrifying to deal with, much less in combination with full-body Impulse seals for tac move.
 
bayesclef said:
Yes (by ~5 hours), and the length of time that it takes to accomplish the transition from full wakefulness to sleep.
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Never really had that problem consistently, for me it was pretty much always when I was trying to get to sleep much earlier than I was used to, and wore off (if I didn't just reset to my previous sleep schedule) quite quickly. How long has this been happening? I assume you've also tried meditation?
One trick I've noticed is that when I'm in a state of fugue or torpor, watching a pot of water boil breaks it. No idea if that'll help, but it seems worth mentioning.
 
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Cariyaga said:
Techniques desired:

Training techniques for:
  • Intelligence for Hazou (maybe get help from the Nara here?)
  • Chakra Control for Noburi (Jiraiya and/or Tsunade could help with this)
  • Dexterity, the above, or Capacity for Kei

Actual techniques:

  • Flame Cloak technique for Akane: Anti-close-combatspecialist technique. Usable during melee combat, adds small bonus to attack, major bonus against close combat specialists.
  • Rocket boots technique for Akane: For closing distance.
  • High power offensive techniques for Noburi.
  • Shadow Clones for Noburi
  • No idea what Kei needs, technique-wise.
  • Defensive techniques in general
Seals desired:
  • Impulse (produce force in given direction; variants for airships and personal use -- boosts tacmove) seals and variants (such as "stop force", "reverse force", etc.)
  • Social seals (gotta prove Jiraiya wrong)
  • CCTV seals (variant of casino seals, long term project)
  • Force Barrier variants (extend out instead of in, apply to shuriken, invisible death frisbee. Arm-mountable version for no-encumbrance buckler, etc.)
  • Recorder seals (record and play back sound -- probably available already in Konoha)
  • Tears of Red seal (Hazou's pet project and birthday present for Akane)

Social stuff desired:
  • Help for Kagome
  • Help for Mari
  • Help for Kei
  • Help for Hazou

(wow our team's fucked in the head)

Short term goals:
  • Make sure the team stays safe, sane, and together. In that order.
  • Complete Jiraiya's missions without causing another fucking diplomatic incident
  • Given J's permission, investigate the state of trade of the places we visit, and check his network for compromisation.
  • Improve Kagome's headspace such that he's not quite so hard on himself.

Medium term goals:
  • Expatriating Hana
  • Contributing to the rescue of Naruto
  • Establishing collaboration with the Nara sealmasters
  • Give normies better stuff (We are team UPLIFT after all)
Long term goals:
  • Resurrection
  • Immortality
  • Finding out what the hell happened to Whirlpool
  • Accelerate the formation of the Shinobi Union
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Addded a couple details, a medium term goal, and a long term goal.

@PurposefulZephyr Sorry, didn't add your stuff -- as far as I'm aware, this isn't meant to be a plan so much as an outline.

e: Added another short term goal as well.
 
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By the way, about Kagome's "perimeter check": Is this a
  1. get the entire team up and ready to stop Kagome doing something really stupid or
  2. let him cool off?
 
faflec said:
But Hazou would also have to believe that...which I do not believe he would believe. At all.
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Believe what? That that's the only way to immediately stop him? I mean, it might not be the only way, but it's nearly guaranteed to work -- more guaranteed to work than infusing a seal, at least.
 
faflec said:
That it was the only way, which would mean Hazou would never successfully precommit to doing so.
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I'm not sure why he wouldn't be able to -- even if it wasn't the only way to do so, from my point of view it has signfiicantly less risk than a day's time researching seals, based on how much Kagome cares for him and the team. The precommitment in question is, "If you kill yourself, I do too."
 
Cariyaga said:
I'm not sure why he wouldn't be able to -- even if it wasn't the only way to do so, from my point of view it has signfiicantly less risk than a day's time researching seals, based on how much Kagome cares for him and the team. The precommitment in question is, "If you kill yourself, I do too."
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Precommitting to killing yourself is a lot harder than you'd expect.
 
Cariyaga said:
I'm not sure why he wouldn't be able to -- even if it wasn't the only way to do so, from my point of view it has signfiicantly less risk than a day's time researching seals, based on how much Kagome cares for him and the team. The precommitment in question is, "If you kill yourself, I do too."
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Why would we ever do that. Resurrection techniques are probably a thing in MfD. So you are saying you want Kagome to die forever

Edit: also can we not use suicide as a therapy technique. That's really just not cool TBH
 
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faflec said:
Precommitting to killing yourself is a lot harder than you'd expect.
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...Oh, right, most people have self-preservation instincts.

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Oneiros43 said:
Why would we ever do that. Resurrection techniques are probably a thing in MfD. So you are saying you want Kagome to die forever

Edit: also can we not use suicide as a therapy technique. That's really just not cool TBH
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As I have said multiple times, I ascribe lower odds to that Kagome goes through with suicide given that precommittment than that Hazou die in any one sealing research roll. I would appreciate it if you would not put words in my mouth.

Regarding your edit, it is not intended as a therapy technique but as a way to prevent Kagome's suicide in the moment.
 
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Cariyaga said:
Regarding your edit, it is not intended as a therapy technique but as a way to prevent Kagome's suicide in the moment.
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TBH: Your talking about Hazō being willing to precommit to suicide is really offensive. Like when I was going to kill myself if someone threatened that they would kill them selves as well it would have probably pushed me over the edge. I just find this line of thought very distasteful
 
Oneiros43 said:
TBH: Your talking about Hazō being willing to precommit to suicide is really offensive. Like when I was going to kill myself if someone threatened that they would kill them selves as well it would have probably pushed me over the edge. I just find this line of thought very distasteful
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It is distasteful, and you are right to find it so, but I do not think that Kagome would share your impressions.

I just know that the choice would be clear for me under the probabilities that I judge the situation by.
 
Cariyaga said:
I just know that the choice would be clear for me under the probabilities that I judge the situation by.
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I think you should revisit your probabilities.

Fake edit: To clarify, I mean that I don't see the situation as so dire that the only way for Kagome to not kill himself would be to threaten our own suicide. I don't think it'll ever be at that point since if Kagome was ever suicidal enough such that threatening suicide is our only way to stop him, he would have already killed himself.
 
faflec said:
I think you should revisit your probabilities.

Fake edit: To clarify, I mean that I don't see the situation as so dire that the only way for Kagome to not kill himself would be to threaten our own suicide. I don't think it'll ever be at that point since if Kagome was ever suicidal enough such that threatening suicide is our only way to stop him, he would have already killed himself.
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In the theoretical situation that Kagome was about to kill himself and we had the choice to either make such a precommittment or try talking him out of it, I see the precommittment having a significantly higher (greater than 95%) chance of working. e: In this case, it would be doing a disservice to take the less-likely-to-succeed option when we have frequently had higher chances of dying in combat.

Now, if he talked to us about having suicidal thoughts, that would be something else altogether. This is specifically in the "Kagome is holding his rings to his head and giving us his goodbyes" situation.
 
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