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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Sir Stompy said:
Hazou can only throw one seal per round, so this is something of a misuse of his combat skills, since the combat is likely going to take 3 rounds or less. Same with carrying their ninjutsu spec, Hazou should be attacking and inflicting Consequences if he can, and drawing fire and tanking hits if he can't. Otherwise he won't unstagnate, and it is modestly less useful for him to be doing this.
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I feel like stagnation should be a very far second priority compared to not dying. If Hazou has 3 Dog jounin with him, then sure. If he doesn't, then priority one is to avoid being slaughtered by the Leopard jounin.

I don't think it will take actions for Hazou to be carrying the chihuahua on his shoulder on in a chest pouch.
 
Have Kagome make/provide caltrops, and attach Force Blades(and MARS).
tie the caltrops along a string, ending with a ~1.4meter chain of spikey death waiting to activate, attach a weight at one end. attach a few dozen of these to a handle(a stick with a ring at the end?), and attach a few blades to the handle that are slightly to short to cut the strings free, then put Force Blades and MARS on them.

Then whip this stupid thing at a zone you don't plan to visit, and activate MARS while it's in midair. the thing will spread out and spin like death-spider, then each string should detach from the handle and fly off separately, and the tumbling caltrops will hopefully cut their string apart in several places as well.

Cleaning up is left as an exersize to the reader someone else, hopefully.
 
Damn, was the 4m long blade an option? Because that sounds amazing. Imagine someone swinging a small kunai at you, from 12+ feet away but suddenly you're cut in half. Pure sorcery.
 
RandomOTP said:
Isn't this what we tried in Hyena, where we got picked off with ranged jutsu until it devolved into melee?
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Not at all. We were traveling on foot, got pursued by a bunch of Hyenas. Realized they would catch up. Made a bunch of SCs to evacuate to a skytower and got caught with our pants down. Without any chakra and outnumbered 2:1 at least.

It devolved into a melee very quickly.
 
I'm assuming the force claws on the pangolin gauntlet are attached to or near the, well, claws, correct?

But I can't help but think about a batman style gauntlet with invisible force blades along the forearm. Somebody narrowly dodges the actual claws, then the hidden blades come out. Or Hazo catches a punch on the side of his arm.

Actually if Hazo can turn the seals off and on relatively easily, he could attach them to all striking and blocking surfaces on his body, under his clothes. It doesn't have to be 'flicker the lightsaber off and on to go around their block' levels of cheese, just reliable enough that he can turn them off after battle and doesn't have to walk around like a self-stabbing porcupine.

For more conventional uses, I'm thinking of those senbon needles some ninja throw instead of kunai. Those might make a good delivery system for a ranged claw. Placing the seal near the end of the blade for a sword or knife feels a bit awkward, but not so for something more like a staff or pole, where the lethality would be totally unexpected but the tip makes for a solid surface to slap the seal down on.

Such a staff, designed in the future specifically for this purpose, could be built in such a way that it hides and protects the seal(s) except for thin slits where the force blades would extrude.
 
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Left-Hand Mutant said:
yeah, 10cm might make sense for Hazou's claws, but we're gonna need to make a 4m wide version for Kei's kunai, and a 4m long version for Yuno's axe.
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There's a narrative tension here between Naruto being a setting where everyone has their own unique fighting style and the reality-according version where everyone just uses the same best weapon pool. I think the story-approved way to resolve this is to make it a clan style.

Obviously Yuno won't do sane things and just stop using an axe, but I don't see why anyone else should want anything that isn't a kunai, or potentially a two-handed kunai.
 
Rihaku said:
I feel like stagnation should be a very far second priority compared to not dying. If Hazou has 3 Dog jounin with him, then sure. If he doesn't, then priority one is to avoid being slaughtered by the Leopard jounin.

I don't think it will take actions for Hazou to be carrying the chihuahua on his shoulder on in a chest pouch.
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The Chihuahua is likely better at dodging than Hazou is, so I'm not sure how this is supposed to help...

Anyway, if the Chihuahua is in range to cast their ninjutsu they are in range to be attacked at range. So if the idea is for Hazou to carry the Chihuahua in and out of range while they attack, the Chihuahua would need to attack when it is not Hazou's turn, so Hazou would need to end his turn in range of enemy ninjutsu so the Chihuahua could attack.

So there's no benefit here as far as I can see.
 
Left-Hand Mutant said:
yeah, 10cm might make sense for Hazou's claws, but we're gonna need to make a 4m wide version for Kei's kunai, and a 4m long version for Yuno's axe.
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Veedrac said:
There's a narrative tension here between Naruto being a setting where everyone has their own unique fighting style and the reality-according version where everyone just uses the same best weapon pool. I think the story-approved way to resolve this is to make it a clan style.

Obviously Yuno won't do sane things and just stop using an axe, but I don't see why anyone else should want anything that isn't a kunai, or potentially a two-handed kunai.
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eh, this breaks down into
  • "the long one for axe/sword/scythe users with the Melee Weapons stat"
  • "the wide one with a half-second delay for Kunai-throwers with the Ranged Weapons stat"
  • "the short one for Hazou and his weird claw-gauntlets, who attacks with the Taijutsu stat"
 
Left-Hand Mutant said:
eh, this breaks down into
  • "the long one for axe/sword/scythe users with the Melee Weapons stat"
  • "the wide one with a half-second delay for Kunai-throwers with the Ranged Weapons stat"
  • "the short one for Hazou and his weird claw-gauntlets, who attacks with the Taijutsu stat"
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I maintain the claim. Hazō using claws as a primary weapon when he could stick it to a kunai instead is at best mechanical contrivance. Thrown kunai should use explosives. Anyone sticking these to a weapon heavier than a two handed hilt is at best mechanical contrivance.
 
Veedrac said:
I maintain the claim. Hazō using claws as a primary weapon when he could stick it to a kunai instead is at best mechanical contrivance. Thrown kunai should use explosives. Anyone sticking these to a weapon heavier than a two handed hilt is at best mechanical contrivance.
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Eh. If an enemy is swinging a sword hilt at you, you're going to assume trickery and maybe be cautious of a possible invisible sword. Genjutsu is still a thing that exists. If you want to maintain the element of surprise, sticking it on another tool or weapon they think they understand can catch them off guard.

Plus there was specifically a possibility of the seal getting damaged and failing, so its good to have an actual weapon to fall back on.
 
Veedrac said:
I maintain the claim. Hazō using claws as a primary weapon when he could stick it to a kunai instead is at best mechanical contrivance. Thrown kunai should use explosives. Anyone sticking these to a weapon heavier than a two handed hilt is at best mechanical contrivance.
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Hazou is limit to short blades to not kill himself, because of his preexisting clawed-gantlet fighting style. Yuno isn't about to break up with Saksuko. Kei needs to throw things anyway, and want her projectiles to look like normal weapons in order to catch people by surprise.

Any new Goketsu Weaponmasters in the next generation can be trained in lightsaber combat, 100%.
Though we may want to start training them with a normal saber or something first, until our Force Blades OPSEC breaks, to maximize the timeframe where we can enjoy the "I didn't expect that" combat bonus.
 
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redzonejoe said:
Eh. If an enemy is swinging a sword hilt at you, you're going to assume trickery and maybe be cautious of a possible invisible sword. Genjutsu is still a thing that exists. If you want to maintain the element of surprise, sticking it on another tool or weapon they think they understand can catch them off guard.
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Hence, kunai.
Plus there was specifically a possibility of the seal getting damaged and failing, so its good to have an actual weapon to fall back on.
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Hence, second kunai.
 
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