I agree. I didn't mean to go into magical blacksmithing. If we use smithing to make our weapons, it still can be innovative. I just don't want to make plans and give them to someone else to make it. I liked it when Tony made his Iron Man Mk. 1. It had more life to it then the later, mass produced versions.
Yes! It was so awesome when it was this original spark of innovation than when it's rote and done.
Taking what you said, j want to make that mark 1 but not because the mark 1 is the greatest ever but because it's original. I just have zero problem with handing the schematics so other people can make them too.
It's not about the item itself but about that spark, the flash and pop of innovation. The understanding involved, the wonder.
I don't want this. I don't want Loki to become someone so obsessed with innovation that he would mutilate himself if he can achieve similar results in a different way.
I don't see why with what we have being a cyborg should mean permanent mutilation. We're willing to shaoeshift, wear clothes, and take medicine right? With what we have being or not being a cyborg should be more like those than like mutilation. Or hell, like getting a tattoo but cooler.
The only situation in which I'm really okay with permanently and irrevocably removing ourselves of body parts here would be if we're already mutilated (i.e sif last quest) or if we're in a crisis and it's our only out (i.e Tony Stark heart arc reactor in the cave)
I wont be the most enthusiastic to complain otherwise but I would really prefer if we kept things sane. Unless of course we go all the way all the way in but as you said it's too jack of all master of none for me to really like it unless we generally agree that's the route we're taking really early on.
Here comes the problem that people already said existed in the previous thread. Da Vinci, Einstein, Warrior Prince?
Once again, this is a route of a Jack of All Trades, master of none. We will be once again left behind if we try to be everything.
Point, I really meant warrior prince in the "decent not spectacular" sense just by sheer defualt of being a prince of Asgard. I definetly want martial to be tertiary at best and for fighting to be among our least preferred solutions.
Well then WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO!!!
FINALLY SOMEONE GETS THE TECH ROUTE!
I know you said you want the balance, but you've basically described the ideal techy to me. The one I could never convey. Magic is the power, Science the frame, the universe is the screen and Loki the outlet.
Glad to have you ack on board for round two. If I'm being honest I've been looking at some old children card games formerly players don motorcycles as the passion in some cards gets inspiring. But like
@ComiTurtle said, getting ahead of ourselves ruins some of the fun. Now tell me, what inventions have you thought about thus far?
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@Nahden tbf the Da Vinci Einstein thing I said was more of a reference to Da Vinci's drive and imagination than his skill. You are right about maybe spreading too far. Perhaps we let Thor be the warrior Prince and instead we play the classic duo of jock older sibling, genius younger brother?
I'm with you. As for innovations I've yet conceived, I'm thinking a combination of scientific and magical principles to make a perfect language that all life can understand beyond lies and misunderstanding. That's one, I dont wanna be that guy who goes overboard but that seems suitably whimsical and something beyond magic or science alone.
People don't see it as mutilation considering it's just changing the body to be something else. Kind of like how Captain America transformed his body into a super soldier.
Basically this with a side dose of we have the technology to do it we probably have the technology to undo it. Treat it more like tatoo or shapeshifting or clothes wearing.
Uh, when I said ultimate blacksmith I meant more along the lines of what you are mentioning when it comes to creation. Forging does not need to be limited to just plain forging and imbuing magic into metal. It's a more personal thing that Loki could be passionate about, like an art form where his creations can be legendary things. That and blacksmithing could in fact combine magic forging and science to create a unique kind of blacksmith art that combines both aspects.
That and it would give Loki a good reason to want to explore. I like the idea of Ultimate Blacksmith Loki who discovers magitech, adores creation and innovation and wondering around every once in a while to learn new things and maybe even give out legendary crafts to would be heroes.
You're kinda like where I'm at except I kinda want our personal creations to always be something new and radically different from anythjbg seen, a forever innovation and invention. Like, less blacksmith and more artistic inventor kinda thing. The da Vinci point was pretty it to me in terms of styling.
That being said I can now see all the magitech we make being radically superior because we made it.
That said you're grabbing me with the art. I wanna straddle that line between art and science just as between magic and technology to really maximise the personal wonder and whimsy with our genius and inventions being legendary.
Build Ea, Ekidu, and the gates of Babylon and let's go full archer on fool's. You want to beat Loki well survive all the weapons I am throwing at you.
Can we melt down the metal and use it as ink to make tattoos?
Eh, these sound like cool bits of magitech but Archer is least interesting Gil and a thousand samey swords are boring fite me.
That being said, while I don't want to do infinite boring sword everything else you said calls to me.
Taking a formula to enhance your biological body and cutting of parts of yourself to replace with metal are two very different things.
You're looking at going cyborg route wrong.
