What do you fine folk think of the name magi-crafter when describing the general outline we seem to have decided on?
Any other suggestions for possible paths loki could follow?
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We should mass produce and distribute anti mind magic stuff so we can be assured we won't be 'betrayed' because an ally got mind raped.
 
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I think we should befriend poor Sigyn. She was completely ignored in the last thread.

By the way, are we still learning magic by pulling it out of our ass? Like, will Loki learn new magic by focusing really hard and snapping his fingers?

Wouldn't it be better if we actually need a teacher? Especially as a kid? When we are an adult it would be reasonable that we can learn magic on our own, but learning from books should only grant us magic equal to parlor tricks basically.

That would also make Alfheim and maybe Vanaheim more relevant, since Loki could go there to learn from the magic users there.
 
Hopefully, if that is the case, getting a book about magic will unlock actions to do that eventually.
 
Personally I'm not part of the consensus wanting to go the forge route, a tinker quest doesn't interest me all that much (though I'm having some ideas of a Terra-Manipulating or Plant Manipulation Loki could be pretty interesting combined with Singing IE: Disney Princess Loki. :V )

I believe the biggest part of that is I dislike just picking what the character is going to do long before anything happens, instead of letting things organically develop. Though from the activity I'm certainly the minority in this opinion of being against blacksmith Loki.


[X] Plan Asgardian Foundation, Round 1

@KnightDisciple May I ask for your thoughts on choosing Hand-To-Hand for round 1 as you call it? Hand-to-Hand is certainly my second choice though I think Exercise is quite worthwhile as an initial martial action.
 
Wouldn't it be better if we actually need a teacher? Especially as a kid? When we are an adult it would be reasonable that we can learn magic on our own, but learning from books should only grant us magic equal to parlor tricks basically.

That would also make Alfheim and maybe Vanaheim more relevant, since Loki could go there to learn from the magic users there.

Well if that's what you want, I'm not going to stop you.
 
I believe the biggest part of that is I dislike just picking what the character is going to do long before anything happens, instead of letting things organically develop.
Thing is that a major complaint was that we didn't seem to have a direction for Loki and that it seemed we were just wondering around doing whatever aimlessly. That and people want at least some general direction, hence, the plans. Another factor is likely that people don't just want to do the same exact thing like last time and end up playing a quest that may just have us retreading the same grounds/plot development like last quest. Truth be told one of the main reasons I came up with a general plan for Loki myself was that I was worried that people would once again try to heavily go down the magic route again.

At least with at somewhat of a plan people could avoid these issues.
 
Thing is that a major complaint was that we didn't seem to have a direction for Loki and that it seemed we were just wondering around doing whatever aimlessly. That and people want at least some general direction, hence, the plans. Another factor is likely that people don't just want to do the same exact thing like last time and end up playing a quest that may just have us retreading the same grounds/plot development like last quest. Truth be told one of the main reasons I came up with a general plan for Loki myself was that I was worried that people would once again try to heavily go down the magic route again.

At least with at somewhat of a plan people could avoid these issues.

Helpful analysis, I just feel like specifically, Artificer isn't much of a general plan, and mostly a prescription for the rest of the game. Because well if we take that path it means we never have to take another really because we can just build into other paths. I agree we should try and contain ourselves more with magic and put more work into focusing on a few things instead of gaining like 10 different magic trees that we have to juggle.

Also, I really think we should try and make a friend this phase, instead of analyzing people to make a targeted friend next turn, Loki doesn't have much reason to be concerned like we do and just because we know how things can go wrong doesn't mean we have to play to avoid all of them. I do want to try and be stable but we still should do some things "recklessly" I guess is the best word for it.
 
Helpful analysis, I just feel like specifically, Artificer isn't much of a general plan, and mostly a prescription for the rest of the game. Because well if we take that path it means we never have to take another really because we can just build into other paths. I agree we should try and contain ourselves more with magic and put more work into focusing on a few things instead of gaining like 10 different magic trees that we have to juggle.

Also, I really think we should try and make a friend this phase, instead of analyzing people to make a targeted friend next turn, Loki doesn't have much reason to be concerned like we do and just because we know how things can go wrong doesn't mean we have to play to avoid all of them. I do want to try and be stable but we still should do some things "recklessly" I guess is the best word for it.
He us the prince people might take advantage of him. That is the narrative reason, he is scared of his friends going to the more popular Thor.
 
Personally I'm not part of the consensus wanting to go the forge route, a tinker quest doesn't interest me all that much (though I'm having some ideas of a Terra-Manipulating or Plant Manipulation Loki could be pretty interesting combined with Singing IE: Disney Princess Loki. :V )

I believe the biggest part of that is I dislike just picking what the character is going to do long before anything happens, instead of letting things organically develop. Though from the activity I'm certainly the minority in this opinion of being against blacksmith Loki.


[X] Plan Asgardian Foundation, Round 1

@KnightDisciple May I ask for your thoughts on choosing Hand-To-Hand for round 1 as you call it? Hand-to-Hand is certainly my second choice though I think Exercise is quite worthwhile as an initial martial action.
A few thoughts went into choosing H2H:
-Learning the fighting arts (and I'm really hoping Asgard has a bit more than just raw strength brawling/wrestling) will help Loki get a better sense of his body and how it moves, which is valuable for everything else physical.
-To me, picking H2H before Exercise etc means we'll likely always be a leaner character, even if we take Runt off. Which I personally like.
-Loki seems like the sort who would adapt well to the more dexterity, speed, and skill inclined arts.
-Martial arts often require patience to achieve mastery, and patience will be our greatest ally.
-It's still learning martial stuff so we shouldn't lack too much prestige.
-It's different than Swords/Daggers, or Hammers, or even Spears. And I'm trying to do something new here!
 
He us the prince people might take advantage of him. That is the narrative reason, he is scared of his friends going to the more popular Thor.

He has no reason to believe that is the case yet though? Such events have never occurred before his eyes, so why would he have such fears? My response is he shouldn't have that yet, only we as players do.

-It's different than Swords/Daggers, or Hammers, or even Spears. And I'm trying to do something new here!

Personally I'd like to go Spear, maybe Axe. Swords are overdone, and Hammers are Thor's thing. Having hand-to-hand is always good to have available but well a weapon focus isn't ever going to be bad either and is a bit more in line with common Asgardian talents.
 
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I like H2H, and I agree that blacksmith is only 1 aspect of Loki we have to serve as a hobby/goal, and that more things will come about as we continue.
 
He has no reason to believe that is the case yet though? Such events have never occurred before his eyes, so why would he have such fears? My response is he shouldn't have that yet, only we as players do.



Personally I'd like to go Spear, maybe Axe. Swords are overdone, and Hammers are Thor's thing. Having hand-to-hand is always good to have available but well a weapon focus isn't ever going to be bad either and is a bit more in line with common Asgardian talents.
I'm more open to spear, to be sure, even aside from the Gungnir potential. I just liked the idea of Kung Fu Master Loki.
 
I think an immediate doubling of stats on reaching adulthood seems a bit weird, like what Loki just wakes up on his 18th birthday with super strength?
 
I like H2H, and I agree that blacksmith is only 1 aspect of Loki we have to serve as a hobby/goal, and that more things will come about as we continue.
This is pretty my reasoning as well.
I'm more open to spear, to be sure, even aside from the Gungnir potential. I just liked the idea of Kung Fu Master Loki.
And hey if we go the magical cyborg route we could literally turn our entire body into a weapon. Which seems like it would synergize well with Kung Fu.
 
I think an immediate doubling of stats on reaching adulthood seems a bit weird, like what Loki just wakes up on his 18th birthday with super strength?

It is a bit weird but it is better, it also keeps us further away from the bloat of DCs and what not during childhood.

May I suggest having the AL mechanics on the known Mechanics list?
 
I think an immediate doubling of stats on reaching adulthood seems a bit weird, like what Loki just wakes up on his 18th birthday with super strength?
Don't you know, Asgardians go through a VERY quick puberty? They go from their Child Stage to their Adult Stage in a few seconds! [/joke]

More seriously, it would probably just be bothersome to implement a slower doubling, since then you'd almost certainly have to deal with rounding.
 
Don't you know, Asgardians go through a VERY quick puberty? They go from their Child Stage to their Adult Stage in a few seconds! [/joke]

More seriously, it would probably just be bothersome to implement a slower doubling, since then you'd almost certainly have to deal with rounding.
Agree with this. Just seems like it would be like a pain the A to try to go too realistic.
 
He has no reason to believe that is the case yet though? Such events have never occurred before his eyes, so why would he have such fears? My response is he shouldn't have that yet, only we as players do.



Personally I'd like to go Spear, maybe Axe. Swords are overdone, and Hammers are Thor's thing. Having hand-to-hand is always good to have available but well a weapon focus isn't ever going to be bad either and is a bit more in line with common Asgardian talents.
His father likes Thor better and he has low self esteem causing him to think that way.
Also we should focus on one weapon, ranged weapon, and hand to hand. We will only get bonuses from one unless we get a weapon or trait to facilitate multiple.
 
I like the Spear!Loki idea.

May I suggest having the AL mechanics on the known Mechanics list?
Do we really need AL? It was one of the heated topics in the previous thread.

Wouldn't it be better to have more ambiguous descriptions of how much a person likes us? Kinda like what we have right now.

Having max AL with Amora made people think that she was completely loyal/devoted to us, and then everyone lost their mind when that proved to not be the case...
 
Don't you know, Asgardians go through a VERY quick puberty? They go from their Child Stage to their Adult Stage in a few seconds! [/joke]

More seriously, it would probably just be bothersome to implement a slower doubling, since then you'd almost certainly have to deal with rounding.
Yeah I get it might be a pain to implement other wise but I'd maybe consider having teenagers as a 1.5 if adults are a 2 and children are a 1.
 
Alright, here we go hopefully with better vibes this time. As for route, I'm down for maximum magi science. They say they are the same thing here so I say let it be so. I don't wanna Smith, smithing is for primitives.

Nah mate, I want fully automated luxury magitech space Vikings. Let the dorfs make the one off super star shit that nobody not even they understand, that's a niche they fill better than perfectly. Let's make episuper star shit that we totally understand and anyone as genius as we are could too.

I want the line between magic and technology to get so damn fuzzy nobody can tell of it's there. Tony Stark but awesome without secret parents and also more magic and sparky yuherd.

Anyway, I also really don't wanna be a recluse(or go through all the issues of last quest) but it seems like the things people was fussing over been dealt with so here we go with bright eyes and optimism

Oh, and I still want lokigard.(though we ought really be a far less involved monarch than Odin because adventuring is fun.
 
I like the Spear!Loki idea.


Do we really need AL? It was one of the heated topics in the previous thread.

Wouldn't it be better to have more ambiguous descriptions of how much a person likes us? Kinda like what we have right now.

Having max AL with Amora made people think that she was completely loyal/devoted to us, and then everyone lost their mind when that proved to not be the case...

This would be fine, I just want to know the plan for social things.
 
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Yeah I get it might be a pain to implement other wise but I'd maybe consider having teenagers as a 1.5 if adults are a 2 and children are a 1.
It is a good mechanic. It is not meant to be realistic. It's meant to stop Super Soldier Children.

Alright, here we go hopefully with better vibes this time. As for route, I'm down for maximum magi science. They say they are the same thing here so I say let it be so. I don't wanna Smith, smithing is for primitives.

Nah mate, I want fully automated luxury magitech space Vikings. Let the dorfs make the one off super star shit that nobody not even they understand, that's a niche they fill better than perfectly. Let's make episuper star shit that we totally understand and anyone as genius as we are could too.
Ugh... I hate magitech.

Smithing from dwarves + Enchanting from elves = profit.
 
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