ApocalypticFish
Been reflecting lately.
Yeah. I remember my take on them being primarily about forcing the characters to face those thoughts they've had in the back of their head, that fear they have, rather than necessarily the truth of the matter--I could change my mind, but I'd probably have to play through the whole game again.
Regardless, they do say something about these characters; I'm just saying this to make it clear that I'm just going to operate off just my reads of them as of this moment.
Jack's vision, of being chided for his use and disuse of power, can in part be seen as a reflection of his own self-doubt rather than what he must do---after all, Elmina had told him that they have to run away for now, because there's no way they can defeat the demons like this. He was also the one who was protected, with Elmina staying behind for that purpose; he was the last of them, and so, whether it was really a failure or not, . At the same time, of course, Jack didn't really seem to spread the word, even if it'd probably be better, getting lost in his own desire to fight the demons, to get personal power to defeat them.
Anyway, my general thoughts on this one...
It felt to me as though this scene was pointing out a number of things about Cecilia. One, of course, that the role of princess is one that distances her. Two, is that she herself has taken that distance and to some extent internalized it, assumed that there is nothing she can do about it. Three, is that she did want someone to sympathize with her, to really care about her. Four, is that even as she goes on this adventure to try to connect with people, she is still doing this, in some capacity, because she is the princess and is expected to do so--even as she pushes to try to get out of her comfort zone, she still, in some way, remains inside it. Or at least, she on some level feels or fears that it's that way, which can be more important than if it's actually true. Fifth, is that she herself has difficulty letting her barriers down, to properly connect with others from her own side, or she at least feels like that's the case.
A couple of these points also have some amount of the caveat I mentioned for point 4, but it's difficult for me to completely articulate.
She does seem to properly love her father, of course, and her father seems to love her as well. But the fact that they're part of the royal family defines so much of their dynamic, and she spent several years at least at the Abbey--that's going to create some distance, some fear.
And then we get to Rudy.
This is one of the scenes that I think best exemplifies why I think him being a silent protagonist was probably better than him not being one--he doesn't interact too well with others, despite the fact that he does care about people. Rudy, wherever he goes, does not feel like he really belongs. He's always different, and people always seem to just kind of not really consider him part of the community, even when he's been part of it for quite a while. He doesn't really feel, at this moment, that there's any chance of him being really accepted by anyone--and that it's his own fault for that.
I don't really think that the illusory Mayor's statement of "You're distancing yourself from people" is anything but Rudy subconsciously sort of internalizing the idea that this was all his fault, especially in the given context of the illusory people treating him as different, as an outsider. He always took me as someone who couldn't help but want to connect with people, but at the same time, is a person who tends to be quiet, not the most overt in how he interacts with others. Especially when considering later details revealed about Rudy, which builds on that impression.
Him not having any lines just...makes the scene for me. It couples with the music perfectly, to ironically give a voice to that sensation of pining, that feeling like no matter how much you try, you will never be able to find someone who really understands you. And in my opinion, it did a great job of setting the foundation for the future.
Overall, there's a very significant common thread between these characters. One that you could have noticed sooner, but that this makes all-but-explicit: they're all lonely. For different reasons, and with different feelings about it, but it's fairly obviously the case. It may be just me, but it did foster a sense in me that perhaps, that's the real reason they all came together.
Anyway, I'll end off this post by linking one of my favorite tracks. Enjoy.
Regardless, they do say something about these characters; I'm just saying this to make it clear that I'm just going to operate off just my reads of them as of this moment.
Jack's vision, of being chided for his use and disuse of power, can in part be seen as a reflection of his own self-doubt rather than what he must do---after all, Elmina had told him that they have to run away for now, because there's no way they can defeat the demons like this. He was also the one who was protected, with Elmina staying behind for that purpose; he was the last of them, and so, whether it was really a failure or not, . At the same time, of course, Jack didn't really seem to spread the word, even if it'd probably be better, getting lost in his own desire to fight the demons, to get personal power to defeat them.
I will say, I took this part as a, "You asked for this adventure because you wanted to be loved, and you're going to save the world because you're the princess," before continuing with a "What you really want is sympathy, right?"Finally a duplicate of Cecilia herself appears, wearing the dress and long hair from the opening of the game, and she announces that Cecilia claimed she requested this dangerous adventure because she wanted to be loved by someone, but she's really just going off to save the world because it's her duty as a princess.
Anyway, my general thoughts on this one...
It felt to me as though this scene was pointing out a number of things about Cecilia. One, of course, that the role of princess is one that distances her. Two, is that she herself has taken that distance and to some extent internalized it, assumed that there is nothing she can do about it. Three, is that she did want someone to sympathize with her, to really care about her. Four, is that even as she goes on this adventure to try to connect with people, she is still doing this, in some capacity, because she is the princess and is expected to do so--even as she pushes to try to get out of her comfort zone, she still, in some way, remains inside it. Or at least, she on some level feels or fears that it's that way, which can be more important than if it's actually true. Fifth, is that she herself has difficulty letting her barriers down, to properly connect with others from her own side, or she at least feels like that's the case.
A couple of these points also have some amount of the caveat I mentioned for point 4, but it's difficult for me to completely articulate.
She does seem to properly love her father, of course, and her father seems to love her as well. But the fact that they're part of the royal family defines so much of their dynamic, and she spent several years at least at the Abbey--that's going to create some distance, some fear.
And then we get to Rudy.
This is one of the scenes that I think best exemplifies why I think him being a silent protagonist was probably better than him not being one--he doesn't interact too well with others, despite the fact that he does care about people. Rudy, wherever he goes, does not feel like he really belongs. He's always different, and people always seem to just kind of not really consider him part of the community, even when he's been part of it for quite a while. He doesn't really feel, at this moment, that there's any chance of him being really accepted by anyone--and that it's his own fault for that.
I don't really think that the illusory Mayor's statement of "You're distancing yourself from people" is anything but Rudy subconsciously sort of internalizing the idea that this was all his fault, especially in the given context of the illusory people treating him as different, as an outsider. He always took me as someone who couldn't help but want to connect with people, but at the same time, is a person who tends to be quiet, not the most overt in how he interacts with others. Especially when considering later details revealed about Rudy, which builds on that impression.
Him not having any lines just...makes the scene for me. It couples with the music perfectly, to ironically give a voice to that sensation of pining, that feeling like no matter how much you try, you will never be able to find someone who really understands you. And in my opinion, it did a great job of setting the foundation for the future.
Overall, there's a very significant common thread between these characters. One that you could have noticed sooner, but that this makes all-but-explicit: they're all lonely. For different reasons, and with different feelings about it, but it's fairly obviously the case. It may be just me, but it did foster a sense in me that perhaps, that's the real reason they all came together.
Anyway, I'll end off this post by linking one of my favorite tracks. Enjoy.
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