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a AU fic of RWBY where summer is a mob boss the the way summer came into the scane made think it was the same type of AU just with the details being different
a AU fic of RWBY where summer is a mob boss the the way summer came into the scane made think it was the same type of AU just with the details being different
Interesting, I've not heard of that fic, is it any good?a AU fic of RWBY where summer is a mob boss the the way summer came into the scane made think it was the same type of AU just with the details being different
hmmm somewhat good I like at least but I have been told my test in fics are thresh before
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Is Ruby going to have a moral crisis over meeting Young Cinder ("It's wrong what is happening to her......but she has hurt so many people........" etc. etc.), or is she just going to slap Rhodes upside the head for being an idiot and run off with the kid?
I must know.
Also, depending on how much and what Yang tells Summer.....oooooooh she is going to want to have WORDS with Ozpin and her entire team.
Thank you.So just to note, I am loving these descriptions, the set up and general vibe so far. The descriptions are especially good at setting the scene and conveying how the characters are feeling, very impressive!
I do think "Thugs" was a bit overused and Summer feels more like a "Stand down" type to me, but otherwise great stuff
I'm going on the assumption that the movies are canon, just not really talked about in the show, so Part 1 is definitely going to be something they're all thinking about early on as they come to grips with the situation they're in.Oh great stuff all round here, weaving in the movies and Weiss's grief and lack of desire to confront the Penny situation, kudos. Also again great scene setting!
That was a personal note I forgot to delete. Fixed, thank you.The bit in brackets is a little confusing, is it a note for later?
Yeah I believe so.Did Cinder have both Relics by this point? I might need to do a re-watch.
Regardless you built up Ruby's anxieties and desperate bid to problem solve well.
Also, weird question, what happened to the civilians who fell? Did they go splat?
Oh that's good, using that.Low key I thought Yang's eyes would be red turning to lilac to help sell the connection XD
Personally, I can't imagine any canonical version of Ruby ever seriously considering about whether to hold Young Cinder accountable for the crimes of Future Cinder. I am firmly convinced that Ruby would take a look at her and decide that she has to help her, not just to avert the things she would have done but because here and now, she's done nothing to deserve this and Ruby isn't really the type to decide that people "deserve" to suffer just because they've done shitty things. She's fully ready to kill a bitch to stop them from continuing to hurt people, but retributive vengeance isn't something she's ever been strongly committed to.
Keep in mind that Ruby has tried to reason with Roman, Cinder, Neo, and Tyrian, each while they were actively trying to kill her and often in the midst or the wake of doing awful shit to her and people she cares about.
However, I do think she would be affected by the memory of who Cinder became and what Cinder did, and that even if she studiously kept it from affecting how she treated Young Cinder in word or deed, Young Cinder would almost certainly pick up on that seeming discomfort and the feeling of there being a wall between them, of Ruby looking at her and not really seeing her but someone or something else, and that would probably cause issues all on its own.
the justice league one or some other movie
NP, thanks for sharing!Thank you.
And noted, will probably change around.
I'm going on the assumption that the movies are canon, just not really talked about in the show, so Part 1 is definitely going to be something they're all thinking about early on as they come to grips with the situation they're in.
That was a personal note I forgot to delete. Fixed, thank you.
eah I believe so.
Ruby I feel like in this situation is both doing better in some ways than canon at this point while also doing worse in other ways. Because being in Atlas means she feels like she's in a much easier to fix situation while at the same time she doesn't have the sheer confusion of being in Ever After to distract her.
And I get the impression that dead bodies just kind of didn't make through since the most we saw in Ever After were bits like Penny's blades.
Oh that's good, using that.
Honestly one of my favorite things about Yang & Ruby is that they are the two most ruthless members of their team. Like they don't want to kill, they will offer the olive branch or give you the chance to leave. But if you don't take it they won't make any bones about offing their foe. After all, they chose to make it a death fight, not them. The fact they can both use it to set up surprise attacks or goad a temperamental foe is even better.Yeah. Ruby is ruthless in a fight but she does try to reason with people generally when possible.
Its funny, before V8 I don't think Ruby hate, hated Cinder. Not anymore than she hated Emerald, Mercury, Neo or Roman anyway. It gave Cinder's would be rivalry a hilarious feeling that Ruby was the only normal one about it. Over there is Cinder seething about Ruby and burning effigies of her, on the other side is Ruby who has a somewhat firmer voice when the prospect of Cinder sending an assassin after her comes up.
I don't usually go into how they transform unless its something very obvious like 'unfurling', I just lean on sounds and sensations of shifting metal and humming machinery.got a weapon ides but I am having trouble describing how it would transform any help would be nice
Hmm, looks interesting, thanks!
Honestly I would argue that pre end of Volume 8, Ruby has much stronger feelings about Emerald and Mercury then Cinder. Cinder may have killed Pyrrha but Emerald directly pretended to be their friend before betraying them.ts funny, before V8 I don't think Ruby hate, hated Cinder. Not anymore than she hated Emerald, Mercury, Neo or Roman anyway. It gave Cinder's would be rivalry a hilarious feeling that Ruby was the only normal one about it. Over there is Cinder seething about Ruby and burning effigies of her, on the other side is Ruby who has a somewhat firmer voice when the prospect of Cinder sending an assassin after her comes up.
Its not a writing issue either, the second Ruby sees Cinder in V7 its all business and she sends her running for the hills via silver eyes. Its just cold professionalism. Cinder wanted it to be personal so, so bad, but to Ruby Cinder was just another problem to solve with strategic applications of violence.
But striking down Penny has likely managed to make it personal, so yeah I can definitely see it effecting Ruby even if she doesn't want it to.
Honestly yeah that fits, they betrayed and or used her, the pain there is deeper (Though even then she was open to questioning) Cinder was just a distant foe who hurt her yes, but in a way she expects an enemy to hurt her.Honestly I would argue that pre end of Volume 8, Ruby has much stronger feelings about Emerald and Mercury then Cinder. Cinder may have killed Pyrrha but Emerald directly pretended to be their friend before betraying them.
But yeah, Volume 7 made it hilariously clear that Ruby didn't see Cinder as a rival despite Cinder very much seeing Ruby as a rival. Cinder's attack on the evacuation efforts, even before she finds out about what happened to Penny, has made Ruby a lot more hateful towards Cinder.
My question is how would one justify the funding for such an aircraft? While the speed and maneuverability could mean it could outrun most Grimm, I doubt the stealth would be effective against Grimm, and critics would say it seems more suited to human warfare than Grimm containment. Would Armacham have to convince Vale Council of the potential threat posed by Atlas' military?
I feel like the bigger questions are, "Where are all these features coming from?" and "Why hasn't Atlas made one yet?"
Maybe for the why Atlas hasn't made an F-22 Equivalent, I think you might have to look at their defenses, more specifically the environment.I feel like the bigger questions are, "Where are all these features coming from?" and "Why hasn't Atlas made one yet?"
I think you raise some fair points regarding the distinct circumstances that would inform heavy duty but slow VS fast and maneuverable planes/airships so kudos there. I do however think that there's still issues. Looking at the list of traits it has:Vale might feel more comfortable investing more into offensive systems like F-22s or other Earth weapons.
F-22 Raptor equivalent that is both maneuverable enough to evade most airborne Grimm, well-armed enough to kill them, hosts a suite of aerial recon equipment to catch bandits, and stealthy enough to sneak up on Atlesian aircraft.
Off the cuff I feel the need to note that would appeal to Atlas, but also raises some questions about whether that's true given the Tempest can literally conjure storms and the Geist's can go immaterial to possess things.
This is again iffy, feel the need to note that we see some solidly sized missiles and massive laser canons deployed in defense of Mantle when the Grimm start swarming and they don't do jack shit to some of the more notable Grimm and these weren't even alpha, let alone elder Grimm.
I'm not super well versed on exactly how effective such tech is, but how does it distinguish between bandits or anyone else? Plus, I'd note that we've seen characters snipe and cut missiles from the air, so I am unsure such equipment would always avoid being shot down. Also as before this seems like something Atlas would want for attacking the White Fang or targeting Grimm.
This again seems like something Atlas would really want just to stay ahead/safe/competitive; plus I am unsure I'd just presume its stealth superiority given we are dealing with a society with refined enough energy reading techniques to rip out a persons soul.
I'm not saying it can't be useful, but I think people can oftentimes overestimate what is effective against us squishy humans, with what would be effective against living juggernauts that make tanks look like they are made from wet tissue paper.
Sure, but my point is, if Atlas, the nation that pours stupid amounts of money into its literal floating fortresses and massive fleet with their bombers and missile launcher airships is not producing small, faster, super stealthy things that can spy well and take out big honking Grimm I don't see why Vale can.Honestly do remember that this isn't the American F-22. It's Vale's version so it's likely they won't have one for one combat systems. Perhaps the sidewinder bays were replaced with laser cannons or they have air to surface cameras. And jet craft are capable of carrying a wide variety of munitions, from last guided bombs to air to air missiles. Systems that we might not need here on earth, like say rapid fire cluster missile pods or rocket pods, may be used in place of Aim-120s or Sparrows.
Oh one hundred percent, I have a ton of head-canons about how the White Fang actually operated when it was under competent leadership that wanted it to, ya know, work for something other than hurling soldiers into a meat grinder to slake a murder boner.Do you think White Fang operated with different tactics depending on the kingdom?
White Fang's Valean (pre-Adam) and Atlesian Chapters for example may have been more similar to the Black Panthers (armed self-defense and police confrontation) while the Mistralean Chapter may seem more in keeping with the African National Congress and uMkhonto we Sizwe (despite Faunus in Mistral still being a minority rather than a majority).
All chapters meanwhile would have had groups dedicated to community organizing, complete with community service programs bringing free meals, community education, sanitation, and first aid clinics.
Post-Adam however probably saw Vale Chapter's community organization groups purged outright.
There's also Weiss' specific mention of "family friends disappearing" and "board members executed". Which, while it could still mean more subtle assassinations, makes me think that some of those were instances of the target being kidnapped before having their execution by the WF being broadcast either live or by recording.Atlas/Mantle:
They are/were a small but elite collection of militant agents and combatants who stole from and sabotaged SDC & sometimes Atleasian military materials. They worked to get Faunus out of prison labor, had spies infiltrating Atlas & the SDC itself, usually being human passing Faunus and in cases of extreme displeasure at injustice would assassinate notable figures. For instance whoever got off scot free for the mine cave-in that killed Ilia's family and so many other Faunus died by their hands. Its all very corporate, shadowy spec ops stuff.
While it's only a single character's opinion, we also have Sun's initial knowledge of and perspective on the White Fang as a Vacuo-native faunus. And he was dismissive of them as "holier-than-thou creeps who use force to get whatever they want" and "a cult or something". Corsec and Fennec's pseudo-priestly behavior are probably similar to what he was talking about.Vacuo:
They don't have much of a presence here as far as organized fighting for rights goes, as Vacuo is more rooted in in group VS out group as opposed to human VS Faunus. Still they have branches here, seeking recruits, preaching Faunus unity, offering aid/protection to Faunus businesses and use it extensively for shipping illegal merchandize and materials as well as a hiding place for their more overtly wanted members. Thus sparing Kuo Kuana the political headache of needing to harbor such people while still giving them something to do.
The guards for protests thing is pretty ironic, considering that the first mention we get of the White Fang is the Vale News Network reporting on them violently disrupting a faunus civil rights protest of unaffiliated activists. But that's after Adam's been in charge of the Vale branch for however long, so *shrug*.Vale/Settlements:
The White Fang is comparatively quiet here. They have the largest number of front businesses in Vale (like Tucson's Book Trade) for cleaning money and shipping materials. They provide genuine support to Faunus trying to start their own businesses and offer protection to Faunus communities from gangs, police and Hunters alike. While others mostly serving as guards for protests and information collectors in areas like the Valean government and SDC branch offices. If not for the ties to more overt international terrorism they'd basically be very aggressive activists.
Mhm, yeah that is very much what inspired the "in cases of extreme displeasure at injustice would assassinate notable figures" came from.There's also Weiss' specific mention of "family friends disappearing" and "board members executed". Which, while it could still mean more subtle assassinations, makes me think that some of those were instances of the target being kidnapped before having their execution by the WF being broadcast either live or by recording.
Yeah that too informed a lot of my framing around them being focused on trying to emphasize a united Faunus identity and indeed the Albain brothers whole vibe. I wanted it to be more nuanced than Sun presented it as cos he has a very shallow to none existent understanding of this stuff at the start, but its a useful frame of reference.While it's only a single character's opinion, we also have Sun's initial knowledge of and perspective on the White Fang as a Vacuo-native faunus. And he was dismissive of them as "holier-than-thou creeps who use force to get whatever they want" and "a cult or something". Corsec and Fennec's pseudo-priestly behavior are probably similar to what he was talking about.
That too is what inspired my take, IE, normally they'd be acting as guards or escorts but with Adam in charge they have started becoming inciters. Though I would also note that a lot of times the news says "This group incited violence" and then it turns out said inciting was just sitting there and then being mauled by a cop. So I can see why say, Sienna didn't see this as a red flag.The guards for protests thing is pretty ironic, considering that the first mention we get of the White Fang is the Vale News Network reporting on them violently disrupting a faunus civil rights protest of unaffiliated activists. But that's after Adam's been in charge of the Vale branch for however long, so *shrug*.