Taylor is meddling, you can't be sure this won't become a reality
It's not wrong to make Friends in the Dungeon (Danmachi / Sanctioned [Worm])
Kai Merah
Hound Hearted Hedonist
- Location
- Somewhere in the corners of my imagination
YES! YES! I called it! *does happy dance* I'm so happy to see Bell as part of Freya's Familia! I'm so happy to see a Freya perspective in general. I love orange and blue morality, which is why I love both QA and Freya so much. I love how Freya is so dedicated to drawing out the full potential of her beloveds!
NOOOO!!!
My poor hopes and dreams... I really hope Bell grows as attached to Freya as his canon self was to Hestia. Fight hard for the sake of your Familia Bell! You won't put a scratch on QA, but I like seeing your zeal and growth anyway!
- Location
- Terra-Luna
"New-sister". I can't wait to see her reaction to her new family; she's bitter now, but she'll come around. She won't come to understand, but she'll come to realise just what she doesn't understand. "Oh! She's not evil... she's just completely fucking insane." "She does have a skill for that, actually." "Eh?!"
I can't wait to see her reaction to her new family; she's bitter now, but she'll come around. She won't come to understand, but she'll come to realise just what she doesn't understand. "Oh! She's not evil... she's just completely fucking insane." "She does have a skill for that, actually." "Eh?!"...what was that about shoujo protagonist powers?
Taylor might be the one to make things interesting for Bell there!
QA and Taylor seem to grow at a simply stupidly fast rate by breathing, Hestia. You wanna try making that sort of expectation when they go off to actually train and delve into the dungeon?
- Location
- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
It's a joke about his skill, Liaris Freese. And his Harem-attracting nature. And his "Beyond the Impossible!" attitude.
And also about his love of frilly skirts and love-fueled Justice, apparently. It's best not to judge.
- Location
- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Also
EDIT: Right, so maybe not that unusual.
Why settle for a mere mental image when the Internet will provide?I was going to object to this but he is literally powered by Love and Beauty. So now I have a visual of him in a frilly skirt and a heart-shaped wand as his weapon and I have you to blame for this.
I hope you're happy with what you've done.
*googles*
...*can't find anything*
YOU HAVE FAILED ME, INTERNET!
EDIT: Ah, there we go. Pixiv had some, but I don't think I can link those anyway. Oh, well.
(holy crap it's been years since I saw such a huge ratio of genderbent to canon art)
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
He wants a harem, she is a harem. It's a perfect match.
- Location
- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
That's... Actually pretty bog standard? Aside from the Usagi jokes he's basically a cardboard copy of characters like Ganta from Deadman Wonderland. And fairly similar to Deku from MHA but that's a bit more of a stretch.
Still, going into Danmachi expecting Bell to break the mold is gonna leave one rather confused, IMO.
The closest I found was "Mahou Shoujo Pretty Bell" which is apparently completely unrelated.
- Location
- Terra-Luna
Picard, I call upon thee.
This is what happens when the format lost the ability to indent quotes used to denote reference and the ambiguity of text's tone. Yes, that was known... and rhetorical for being the opening for its own joking point that might not actually be just a joke. Taylor seems to have her heart set on her other self being a magical girl. If along comes someone else who rather evokes the part... well she might just "help" him a little, especially if he further acts the part by declaring QA his rival or something. If QA is to be a magical girl and Bell is both her rival and seems like a magical girl... then Bell must be a magical girl! It's the only reasonable conclusion, really. Or at least it should be; the narrative is serious business to the Dreamer. Come, Bell, walk into the sight of one bearing Melpomene!
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Their hair is exactly the same shape, like it's too shy to stand tall like the Shonen Hair of old but it's still doing its best and that's what's important.
I'm on board with a stealth Kampfer crossover.
- Location
- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
I know, right?
That or a "Zombie wa Desu ka" crossover, which is infinitely more entertaining in my humble opinion.
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I might be misremembering but my understanding is that he's really more comparable to Saotome Ranma, Urashima Keitaro or even Negi Springfield than the likes of Hyoudou Issei.
- Location
- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
You aren't misremembering; Bell still stubbornly maintained a fairly innocent worldview despite the seemingly-incompatible eccentricities brought by his grandfather's influence. The fact that he actually wanted to be a hero more than he wanted to "pick up girls in the dungeon" was a relatively early (IIRC) plot point. Blame Mr. "Peeking is part of a man's romance" for the distortion.
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- Location
- Philippines
- Location
- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Strongly dislikes: Harvest (Faerie Queen), Broadcast (Jack Slash)
Moderately disliked rival: Queen Objective (Leet)
Rivalry for Friendmaking: Maker (Nilbog)
Not a rivalry no matter how much he wishes it was: Escalation (Lung)
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- Location
- Williamsburg, OH
Zeus did it. Fuck that guy for ruining everything he touches!
- Location
- A Table Near You
If anything, I think Syr might be the primary candidate for Best Girl, without Aiz and and Hestia around to act as competition.
The recent Freya Familia Chronicle has confirmed that Freya and Syr are separate people. They met in the slums, and apparently made some sort of deal, but the important details are intentionally removed. Personally, my favorite theory is that she's to Freya what Bell is to Zeus; an adopted protege/daughter, but with a more distant/wary relationship that reflects Freya's devious, two-faced personality.
If so, Freya may see some cute symmetry in shipping her adopted daughter with Zeus's adopted grandson. For their mortal lives anyway — Bell obviously belongs to Freya when he dies.
If so, Freya may see some cute symmetry in shipping her adopted daughter with Zeus's adopted grandson. For their mortal lives anyway — Bell obviously belongs to Freya when he dies.
Bell's character makes a lot more sense when you realize he's a classic shōjo protagonist — beautiful, bashful, deeply emotional, falls in love with a powerful warrior at first sight, vows to become worthy of
Aiz, meanwhile, is the shōnen protagonist.
- Location
- Adelaide, Australia
Lilli is a natural shapeshifter and likely has dozens of different forms she takes. Since she usually robs the groups she joins it wouldn't be smart to stick with only a few different forms in case she was recognised by her past victims.
- Location
- Earth, Sol System, Virgo Supercluster, Earth-1218
The hilarious thing is I think this applies to most of Bell's love interests
Aiz: I will become strong enough to destroy the thing that killed my parents!
Bell: 🤩🤩🤩 she is Beautiful. I must become strong to be worthy!
Lili: I will become strong and overthrow the corrupt Adventurers!
Bell: She is Strong, but Brittle! I must love and support her so she can grow past her pain.
Tiona: You like mythology stories, I like mythology stories, it's like we're childhood friends!
Bell: But, we're not? You know what, you're like 5x as strong as me, and fun to hang out with, sure!
Eina: I will be the BEST teacher and you will learn and not die!
Bell: Yes Sensei!
Eina: Kohai noticed me! (Inverting the 'schoolgirl crush on teacher' trope)
I think Welf is the closest he has to a normal Shonen relationship, and he's definitely not a love interest (if anything he's TOO GOOD at avoiding accidental homoerotic tension to qualify for a normal Shonen relationship):
Welf: I refuse to make Magic Swords because my ancestors did some shifty things with them
Bell: But you're willing to make me normal equipment at a discount while being another teammate? THANK YOU!
I guess that makes LEFIYA the "Rival with unintentional sexual tension" XD
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- Location
- Terra-Luna
Bell has a somewhat unrealistic view of things and is directed by someone with a simply alien perspective to contend against someone also entirely deranged by typical human standards, and she herself associates with another girl who is no social savant. With how Bell is with Aiz in canon, though, and Aiz also perhaps now being something of a worthy pseudo-benevolent opponent for him in Freya's eyes as both a prodigy in her own right and now bolstered by her new skill that likewise promotes growth, I'm legitimately wondering if there might be some sort of love triangle in the works, except one that isn't at all about love, nor anything remotely shaped like a triangle for all that three people might be involved. If QA and Aiz do end up somehow inadvertently engaged or under the assumption that they are betrothed to one another—or simply everyone else believing so, with the way gossip and misinformation spread around here—Bell might well come to the conclusion that a "proper hero" ought challenge one of them for the hand of the other or something, seeing it as his obliged duty to stand up for whichever girl he has a crush on or thinks that he should be trying to woo. That, however, would likely see either girl quite perplexed and confused by his behaviour, and his would-be target would probably either shoot him down or just leave him as bewildered, even as the other girl manages to soundly trounce him, however gently and not intentionally mockingly... which I imagine would do precisely nothing to dampen his resolve, one way or another. He will defeat one of them and win the other girl's heart! But which... Or both?
Even if it doesn't have a pseudo-romantic angle, Bell could end up ga-ga for Aiz as a "trainer of heroes" and seek to prove himself worthy of being her student and setting himself the challenge of besting QA to earn such tutelage... only to get summarily sat on by a cat for his initial efforts, or something, or perhaps set with some inane "competition" by QA that is deeply anticlimactic for not at all understanding to take him seriously in the way for which he thinks he conveys his desire. This could all end hilariously horrible (well, more so) should Bell do the responsible and sensible thing in asking for advice. Freya, how do I get a girl to like me? People have noted that QA may genuinely appreciate Freya's methods for understanding the intend behind them, but that could still get, uh... "awkward". Especially if he tries to rope in Hestia and they get to talking.
- Location
- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
The thing is, the kinds of relationships you're describing are typical for shounen protagonists in the 12-14 age range like Bell apparently is. You're not wrong about the shoujo dynamic being present too, but these "pure feelings" dynamics are typical for harem protags in the younger range of shounen.
Which can get really weird for the ecchi stuff. Not that it isn't already given the age range. (Japan. Stahp.)
Cultural differences can be really strange. The infamous panty shots for one. Just really, why Japan, why?
I was thinking about some of the spells that might be given out. If we want to steal from other places, and if Taylor had them as inspiration it could be pretty funny.
Gandalf, because it is a classic, even if it might really be a spell. Blocks enemies from going forward?
Classic dragon slave. QA might not worry much about the chant, but it could make other people uncomfortable.
Moon healing escalation. Not much more than a very useful joke- probably for Bell. Healing is always useful in Danmachi and it keeps to the running gag of making things a bit Chunni.
Bell would also absolutely be willing to use a spell that has something like "Moon X power, Make up! In the name of the moon I will punish you!" for a long lasting buff spell.
Toil and trouble from Macbeth. As her mom was an English teacher Taylor should have a passing familiarity with this. Possible a spell to help potion brewing?
Curse of the Fates (the ancient "Chinese" curse- not actually from China, or at least a poor translation of a Chinese saying)
I was thinking about some of the spells that might be given out. If we want to steal from other places, and if Taylor had them as inspiration it could be pretty funny.
Gandalf, because it is a classic, even if it might really be a spell. Blocks enemies from going forward?
You cannot pass,
I am a servant of the Secret Fire,
wielder of the flame of Anor.
You cannot pass.
The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn.
Go back to the Shadow!
You cannot pass.
I am a servant of the Secret Fire,
wielder of the flame of Anor.
You cannot pass.
The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn.
Go back to the Shadow!
You cannot pass.
Classic dragon slave. QA might not worry much about the chant, but it could make other people uncomfortable.
Darkness beyond twilight
Crimson beyond blood that flows
Buried in the flow of time
In thy great name, I pledge myself to darkness
Let all the fools who stand in our way be destroyed
by the power you and I possess...
DRAGON SLAVE!
Crimson beyond blood that flows
Buried in the flow of time
In thy great name, I pledge myself to darkness
Let all the fools who stand in our way be destroyed
by the power you and I possess...
DRAGON SLAVE!
Moon healing escalation. Not much more than a very useful joke- probably for Bell. Healing is always useful in Danmachi and it keeps to the running gag of making things a bit Chunni.
Bell would also absolutely be willing to use a spell that has something like "Moon X power, Make up! In the name of the moon I will punish you!" for a long lasting buff spell.
Toil and trouble from Macbeth. As her mom was an English teacher Taylor should have a passing familiarity with this. Possible a spell to help potion brewing?
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg and howlet's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Cool it with a baboon's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good.
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg and howlet's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Cool it with a baboon's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good.
Curse of the Fates (the ancient "Chinese" curse- not actually from China, or at least a poor translation of a Chinese saying)
May you live in interesting times.
Czlyydwr Llrngwl
"Sell ya a door Learn gull," Czly/Celly for short
- Location
- Where the Beef is
- Pronouns
- Any
I think a skill based on the "toil and trouble" chant from Macbeth would be more of an area-effect debuff using a vapor cloud from reagents put into an actual small cauldron. This would be difficult to manage under normal exploration conditions but for a boss battle where you can either prepare an area and kite the enemy into it or have allies to hold it off while cooking it up it could work, at least as long as it has a function to recognize allies and only affect enemies or can be easily counteracted, perhaps with a sip from the potion or a previous brew. Taking the "Double, double, toil and trouble" line literally to base the effect on, going to that amount of effort would still be worth it to cut enemy strength to 25% and give them matching bad luck.
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QA: "I have had enough of Escalation's feeble attempts and now this."
- Location
- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Taylor: "Truly, being Escalation is Suffering."
Actually Ais is secretly half wind spirit (mother's side). Her mother Aria worked with the Zeus familia and her father was part of it.. This is a large part as to why she is so OP. So ironically Ais is closer to being what everyone things QA is than QA.