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It Belongs to a Museum

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Yo ho, yo ho, curator's life for me
We excavate tombs, we study and loot
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
We scavenge your icons and don't give a hoot
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Yo ho, yo ho, curator's life for me
We extort more funding, we filch and sack
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Display frauds embezzle and even hijack
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Yo ho, yo ho, curator's life for me
We steal the bizarre and the tomb kings incite
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
We'll take all your statues, we're really a fright
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
We're constantly censured, we're villains and knaves
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
We're lacking in tenure, we're really bad eggs
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Yo ho, yo ho, curator's life for me
We're beggars for funding and ne'er do-well cads
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Aye, but we're loved by our mad lad vampire dads
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Yo ho, yo ho, curator's life for me
 
demond said:
@Boney
What about having a museum ship kinda like a upgradable black ark which is really just a floating city.
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A museum the size of a city seems like am ambition to start working on after other milestones have already been achieved, such as the museum existing at all.

Dragonofelder said:
Speak of; @Boney how long is this vote going to last?
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I don't like to give an end time in advance, it only seems to stress people out.
 
consequences said:
Yo ho, yo ho, curator's life for me
We excavate tombs, we study and loot
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
We scavenge your icons and don't give a hoot
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Yo ho, yo ho, curator's life for me
We extort more funding, we filch and sack
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Display frauds embezzle and even hijack
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Yo ho, yo ho, curator's life for me
We steal the bizarre and the tomb kings incite
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
We'll take all your statues, we're really a fright
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
We're constantly censured, we're villains and knaves
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
We're lacking in tenure, we're really bad eggs
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Yo ho, yo ho, curator's life for me
We're beggars for funding and ne'er do-well cads
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Aye, but we're loved by our mad lad vampire dads
Dig up me hearties, yo ho
Yo ho, yo ho, curator's life for me
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This is the sort of maniac energy I imagine happening in this story this is what I imagine trazyn to be like does it make sense not really does it fit in the setting not quite like a puzzle piece that is just slightly off that doesn't quite fit do I care absolutely not I love this mad energy dig up me hearties indeed.
 
Speaking of vampires. Can anyone explain why they have a reputation for being virtually indestructible creatures for whom death is just waiting until the next resurrection?
Is it really impossible to completely eliminate from the remains or use divine intervention to finally destroy at least the most odious vampires?
 
H2F2 said:
Speaking of vampires. Can anyone explain why they have a reputation for being virtually indestructible creatures for whom death is just waiting until the next resurrection?
Is it really impossible to completely eliminate from the remains or use divine intervention to finally destroy at least the most odious vampires?
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The design goal of vampires was to inexorably bind the soul to the physical matter of the body in the physical world, withdrawing the part of the soul that would usually exist within the Aethyr.

That means that gods are unable to get at a vampire's soul, as unlike a regular mortal the vampire keeps it someone the gods can't directly touch.
 
H2F2 said:
Speaking of vampires. Can anyone explain why they have a reputation for being virtually indestructible creatures for whom death is just waiting until the next resurrection?
Is it really impossible to completely eliminate from the remains or use divine intervention to finally destroy at least the most odious vampires?
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In practical terms, most vampires will stay dead when they are reduced to ashes, or regenerate so slowly as to barely matter.

Hell, most vampires go mad and turn into a Vargheist or Vargulf just from being imprisoned and starved a long time.

But yeah, technically they are truly immortal and that is a problem because people attempt to bring back the most famous and dangerous vampires on occasion, using necromantic healing and some blood sacrifice to help them grow a new body.
 
Artemis1992 said:
In practical terms, most vampires will stay dead when they are reduced to ashes, or regenerate so slowly as to barely matter.

Hell, most vampires go mad and turn into a Vargheist or Vargulf just from being imprisoned and starved a long time.

But yeah, technically they are truly immortal and that is a problem because people attempt to bring back the most famous and dangerous vampires on occasion, using necromantic healing and some blood sacrifice to help them grow a new body.
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In a couple thousand years, the endless tide of regenerating vampires is going to be the equivalent of microplastics today. "We should really do something about that, it keeps getting more widespread and dumping them in the ocean just results in zombie wildlife raiding the coast..."
 
H2F2 said:
Speaking of vampires. Can anyone explain why they have a reputation for being virtually indestructible creatures for whom death is just waiting until the next resurrection?
Is it really impossible to completely eliminate from the remains or use divine intervention to finally destroy at least the most odious vampires?
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In Boneyverse terms, Dhar attracts and is attracted to magic. Put enough Dhar in one place, and you get the magical equivalent of a singularity, where it can't escape from its own pull. Put that vortex of Dhar inside your soul, and it means even if you're killed, no part of your soul can escape your corpse to move on to any afterlife. Nor can any external magic, be it divine, chaotic, or otherwise, touch your soul without being similarly sucked into the vortex and trapped.

However, trapping your soul inside your body doesn't inherently give you regenerating powers, as the Lich Priests of Nehekhara found out to their chagrin. That part is owed to Nagash's creation of necromancy, and vampires are only a flawed imitation of what Nagash achieved, which is why vampires have all kinds of weird side effects and mutations, and are not all on the cusp of literal godhood.
 
Natch said:
In Boneyverse terms, Dhar attracts and is attracted to magic. Put enough Dhar in one place, and you get the magical equivalent of a singularity, where it can't escape from its own pull. Put that vortex of Dhar inside your soul, and it means even if you're killed, no part of your soul can escape your corpse to move on to any afterlife. Nor can any external magic, be it divine, chaotic, or otherwise, touch your soul without being similarly sucked into the vortex and trapped.
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Can't some types of magic destroy the dhar? For example, Qhaysh or Hysh.
Besides, even if external magic gets sucked into the dhara vortex, can't so much magic be poured in that the soul inside that vortex is damaged?
 
Vampires are arguably a superior version of what Nagash managed. Much cheaper, and much easier to reproduce. Nagash is a lot more dependent on external infrastructure, and he consumed an absolute shed load of warpstone, turning himself into a very mutated skeleton. A vampire that chooses to can retain a living body, which probably adds significantly to their quality of life.

Modern Vampires have loads of downsides, but they're not inherent to their condition. They exist because Nagash and possibly others cursed vampires with additional weaknesses, probably be took advocate of the vulnerabilities that his follower inserted into the design.

Their biggest advantage vampires probably have over Nagash is that they can feed on lifeforce via blood rather than needing to eat warpstone to revitalise their soul.
 
H2F2 said:
Can't some types of magic destroy the dhar? For example, Qhaysh or Hysh.
Besides, even if external magic gets sucked into the dhara vortex, can't so much magic be poured in that the soul inside that vortex is damaged?
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If there is an upper limit to how much magic that vortex of Dhar that is a Vampire's soul can contain, it has yet to be found.
 
By the way, if vampires are separated from the ether, then how can they create magic? Especially considering that there is a constant stream of Dhar around their souls that draws any magic into itself?
 
H2F2 said:
By the way, if vampires are separated from the ether, then how can they create magic? Especially considering that there is a constant stream of Dhar around their souls that draws any magic into itself?
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The magic that people in the physical world manipulate is not in the Aether. Correctly arranged ROCKS can manipulate the magic that people in the physical world manipulate, there's nothing that breaks any expectations for Vampires to be able to do it.
 
Confused by the vote button now included near the post reply button. I hope I'm correct in hitting it instead of just writing in a vote.

Edit: this was surprisingly difficult to hit the right thing on a phone screen. Had to delete and repeat my post several times.

[x] Altdorf
 
H2F2 said:
Can't some types of magic destroy the dhar? For example, Qhaysh or Hysh.
Besides, even if external magic gets sucked into the dhara vortex, can't so much magic be poured in that the soul inside that vortex is damaged?
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Other forms of magic can be used to disrupt Dhar-based spells, but the Dhar itself continues to exist, and even transforms some of the energy that was used to disrupt it into more Dhar. Pouring magic into a Vampire's soul feeds them. Pouring huge amounts in is more likely to transform them into a more terrible form than it is to meaningfully damage them.

H2F2 said:
By the way, if vampires are separated from the ether, then how can they create magic? Especially considering that there is a constant stream of Dhar around their souls that draws any magic into itself?
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'Creating magic' might be a misleading way of putting it. Using magic can be seen as an act of creation, but in terms of the energy being used by spellcasters, it's ambient magical energy that has already left the Aethyr and entered the physical world that is being manipulated.
 
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