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Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]

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James D. Fawkes said:
Well, I mean, FGO has done bosses with special mechanics like that, but yeah. I'm picturing it in my head and it's actually a really cool scene, but there's no way they would have done it in canon and risked the Mouse's ire. Someone should commission a sketch panel or something showing it, though.
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I could see them doing more or less what you did in an event only without the explicit name drops. "Modern depictions influence old fairy tales. Most people know the Evil Fairy through her depiction in film. In which she is given vastly greater characterization, power, and narrative significance as the antagonist, but it comes at the cost of becoming the villain that the protagonist defeats instead of a background character that never answers for her deeds."
MWKillKenny84 said:
Oh yes, Yen Sid's tale gave the Wicked Fairy a Name and impressive power boosts... and it also gave her mortality.
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"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed." - G.K. Chesterton
"Children are people, and they should have to reach to learn about things, to understand things, just as adults have to reach if they want to grow in mental stature. Life is composed of lights and shadows, and we would be untruthful, insincere, and saccharine if we tried to pretend there were no shadows. Most things are good, and they are the strongest things; but there are evil things too, and you are not doing a child a favor by trying to shield him from reality. The important thing is to teach a child that good can always triumph over evil." - Walt himself.
I feel Walt would be one hell of a foil for Anderson if he was summoned as a Servant or appears in an event. He won't ever be unless Don Mouse approves a crossover, but it would be something to behold.
 
famfrit said:
idk I thought that inheriting the cons with the pros was obvious enough to have thought of that, her kingdom hearts defeats and the live action version's iron weakness as soon as her appearance was confirmed tho the last was even before that when it said Flamel's cage was steel I just went Mistake cause it wasn't iron due to the general fairy weakness to it and well they had Emiya and Flamel right there.
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Yes, it was the obvious thing to do.

But that doesn't make it any less fun.

I also don't think it counts as an order to kill Puss given they all knew about the fairy tale thing.
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She still gave an order for Emiya to inflict brutal violence on an enemy. Consider how much Rika had been freaking out about having to fight at the start, as well as her own interlude where she perceives herself to be useless in part because of this fear (if I'm recalling correctly, am at work ATM and so don't have time to double check).

Her being confident enough to give such an order, even if it doesn't kill the opponent, even if she orders it in part because she knows it won't kill the opponent, is a pretty huge step up for her.
 
Formerly said:
The important thing is to teach a child that good can always triumph over evil." - Walt himself.
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I also like Jordan Peterson's take on it. A good story can teach children that the dragons in their lives can be beaten

Still great fight, can't wait for Jackie to pull her own mvp moment and kill the last servant only to be killed herself by Goti/ not Soloman. Taylor will be in full momma bear mod and deeply pissed.
 
You know, I don't think I see a lot of times in a Fate fic where the hero's plan is to send an Assassin to deal with the enemy via sneaky murder, even though that's what they're for.

Also, yes, Maleficent was deeply enjoyable.
 
James D. Fawkes said:
And she didn't die in her story.
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wait a second.....
James D. Fawkes said:
"And how fortunate for me that is," she said gleefully. "Why, I think I should thank that man for having bestowed upon me such a precious gift. His name was…Walt, wasn't it?"
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She totally dies! i remember it fairly well.
Back when Disney princes killed off the big monsters.
Come on people, she is straight up telling you the answer.


James D. Fawkes said:
"Wait!" said Rika. "Wait, wait, wait! I think I know how to kill her!"
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Finally someone decided to listen and think.
 
James D. Fawkes said:
"Wait!" said Rika. "Wait, wait, wait! I think I know how to kill her!"

"Uhn?"

Ritsuka shook his head. "We aren't trying to kill her —"

"For good, I mean!" Rika clarified. "Look, the dragon thing isn't something she can do in the OG fairy tale, right? That's what you said, isn't it?"

"The evil fairy doesn't even have a name in the original story," Andersen told her.

Rika nodded. "Then the rest of this, it's all stuff she can do because Disney added onto her, isn't it? In that case…!"

She could be killed the same way as she died in the movie?

My first reaction was to deny it. The literary purist in me didn't even want to entertain the idea. But when I put that first instinct aside…

"Maybe," was all I said.

"We've got nothing to lose by trying," said Arash.

We really didn't.

"Go for it, Rika."

Her grin was bright enough to light up her face.

"Mo-chan! Come quick!" she called over to Mordred.

Mordred jogged back over to us, keeping an eye on the struggling evil fairy as she did, and when she reached us, she said, "What? Make it quick. That don't look like it's gonna keep."

"I need you to do your best knight errant impression!" Rika said swiftly. "I'm gonna say an incantation, and then I need you to throw your sword straight at Maleficent's heart!"

Mordred did a double-take, eyeing Rika with utter bewilderment. "Throw my sword? You outta your mind?"

"Just trust me!" Rika insisted.

She had some obvious reservations about it, but reluctantly, Mordred did as Rika said and held out her sword, waiting as she watched the evil fairy strain. Rika held her hands out to the blade of Mordred's Clarent, fingers splayed as though she was about to deliver a blessing.

"Sword of truth, fly swift and sure," she breathed out, "that evil may die and good endure!"

Mordred did another double-take. "What?"

Rika just pointed at the dragon. "Throw it!"

Mordred hesitated another second, and then, as the evil fairy drew back, groaning and shaking its head, pulled her arm back, braced herself, and threw her sword like a javelin.

Against all sense and reason, it flew straight, tip first, and pierced the dragon's heart.

The reaction was immediate: the dragon reared back, the paws of its front legs grasping desperately at the wound even though they were too large to grip the much smaller sword, and a loud, agonized roar ripped out of its throat, half massive, furious beast and half dying, tortured woman. The cavern around us shook with the sound, vibrating, and for a second, I thought all we had accomplished was to make her even angrier than she had been.

And then the dragon fell, collapsing as though all its strings had been cut, and landed with a weighty thud on the cavern floor, sending the ground beneath us to trembling. It laid there limply, eyes closed and acid green tongue lolling out of its mouth, as a large pool of purple blood slowly grew beneath it.

Just as she had been in the movie, the evil fairy had been defeated.
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Did Rika just make Mordred accidentally propose to Renée? And does that mean that Mordred is kissing Renée in a future chapter to wake her up?
 
The-Chained-One said:
does she not have her mask on? it's got toned lenses to specifically prevent bright lights from hindering her, it came up multiple times in worm if I recall
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She took it off when they returned to their base and has left it off cause she doesn't really like it and as a show of solidarity tho she has it with her in case Flamel's np fails and cause well once this is over they'll leave.
 
MWKillKenny84 said:
They could have him appear under a pseudonym like they did with TotallyNot!Lovecraft (remember the Salem Singularity?) and spritz enough hints on who he is without using directly his name.
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Disney has a few too many lawyers, far too much money, and too much of a reputation for using them compared to the estate of Lovecraft to try that. Even if Type-Moon won that legal dispute it wouldn't be worth the time, money, and bad blood it'd cost them to win it.
 
So the evil fairy was "defeated" and not "killed" ....Mmmmmmmmmmm.

...now that I think about it, if you turn an "m" upside down you get a "w" so what is the chance of it actually being Walt who summoned Malificent?

...and what is stopping the summoner from just summoning her again?

Hmmm so many ideas, so many questions I can't put into words right now...
 
Megabyte97 said:
So the evil fairy was "defeated" and not "killed" ....Mmmmmmmmmmm.

...now that I think about it, if you turn an "m" upside down you get a "w" so what is the chance of it actually being Walt who summoned Malificent?

...and what is stopping the summoner from just summoning her again?

Hmmm so many ideas, so many questions I can't put into words right now...
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Now that'd be a plot twist—"M" is for "Mickey Mouse!" The true villain of this singularity was capitalism all along!
 
alvus said:
She totally dies! i remember it fairly well.
Back when Disney princes killed off the big monsters.
Come on people, she is straight up telling you the answer.
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I mean, Taylor explained pretty concisely in this chapter why she wasn't the one to come up with it.

Because she's a neeeeerd. A literary purist. The only reason she didn't say: "Acktually, that's not canon" is because she believes she's too cool for the rest of us other book nerds.

But yeah, it makes sense that Rika would be the one to test the Disney approach. She's the pop culture reference generator of the team, after all.
 
Raiseth said:
Gives us an opportunity to see Mordred's absolutely fucking flabbergasted face in the middle of a realization that she's playing a role of a knight in shining armor defeating an evil dragon with the help of a wizard, just like daddy.
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Dmol8 said:
Did Rika just make Mordred accidentally propose to Renée? And does that mean that Mordred is kissing Renée in a future chapter to wake her up?
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Mo, internally: So this is it. This is what I've been reduced to. Playing the role of Prince Charming so I can rescue a homunculus maid who's the stand in for a princess. If I have to kiss her to wake her up I swear to god I'll find the fucker responsible for this bullshit and kill them so hard their grandparents will feel it.

Mo, internally: …At least I got to kill a dragon. That was pretty rad.
 
Amid the (justified) Mordred-praise, let me also throw in a round of applause for Jeanne Alter. "Now, heel!"

(The mob may be grateful that this is Maleficent-via-Disney rather than Carabosse-via-Tchaikovsky - I don't think anyone's background knowledge extends to ballet...)
 
incandescens said:
Amid the (justified) Mordred-praise, let me also throw in a round of applause for Jeanne Alter. "Now, heel!"

(The mob may be grateful that this is Maleficent-via-Disney rather than Carabosse-via-Tchaikovsky - I don't think anyone's background knowledge extends to ballet...)
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Hence why Taylor doesn't recognize it. She gets the literature aspect, and Disney is too ubiquitous for her to miss once it's thrown in her face, but "Carabosse" is a little too niche for her.

And yeah. The Jalter thing...actually wasn't originally going to happen, and then I had a moment and remembered, "Oh, right, Dragon Witch!" and her wrangling Mal was born.
 
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