Harry Potter and the Whims of Fate (Harry Potter Quest)
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How do you know Voldemort isn't more knowledgeable than Lily or Dumbledore about some bit of non-dark magic? I didn't claim he was, though, only that they failed to defeat him and perhaps more knowledge would've enabled them to. And how is it illogical? You're going to have to break that one down for me.
Oh, and by the way, Dumbledore studied Horcruxes and that's about as dark as magic comes
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Corvus Black
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You're asking me to prove something that can neither be proved or disproved. Voldemort is generally considered to be the most knowledable wizard of the era, but this doesn't factor in that this is only so because he studied a branch of magic Albus refused to.
Also, Voldemort never defeated either Lily or Albus. Lily fended him off three times and willingly sacrificed herself without a fight the fourth. Albus handily held him off every time they fought, and again you need to factor in that Albus was never fighting to kill Voldemort, only hold him off.
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I'm asking you to back up your assertion that I'm wrong yes. If you can't prove it it can go either way and you shouldn't state it as fact. And yeah he was only trying to hold him off after the prophecy, but if he hadn't tried seriously to capture him before that then it's news to me. Yes, though, refusing to use the killing curse is a fairly absolute disadvantage in a fight, I'll grant that. And are you certain that he's only the most knowledgeable because of the dark arts or is that more of the stuff you can't prove.
I don't think she was a complete scrub - she was just short a good 40 years of experience versus voldemort
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Corvus Black
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Yeah, and this 'scrub' held Voldemort off three times. In fact, there are no known cases where he managed to decisively defeat her.
I'll give you Lily, but again as you yourself state she is 40 years his junior. Albus, though, is just as knowledgeable as Voldemort, more so most likely considering his age, in everything except the Dark Arts.
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Yeah but if it takes a hundred years after school that can hardly be attributed to the educational philosophy and opportunities from his education as a gryffindor at hogwarts. Also, she defied him three times; we don't actually know she ever held him off. One of the times she defied him is in refusing to join him when recruited.
Corvus Black
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A hundred years? Lily was 21 when she died, only four years removed from Hogwarts.
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Talking about Dumbledore's matching Voldemort in knowledge bro.
Ravenclaw!Harry has its own cliches; you're just going to have to trust the quest writers regardless of the choice.
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Corvus Black
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Then you are incredibly off base. Albus spent his immediate years after graduation looking after his brother and sister and then after that joined the teaching staff at Hogwarts. Voldemort, meanwhile, spent his at Borgin and Burkes - a treasure trove of Dark artifacts - and a jaunt around the world in search of knowledge. Crediting Voldemort's knowledge soley to Hogwarts is jus completely...wrong.
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Behavior encouraged by their house and by the personality that led to that house. Do you think he could've gotten the Borgin and Burke job after having been in Gryffindor? Or that Dumbledore would have settled for taking care of his family if he'd been in Slytherin? Obviously house choice doesn't decide everything. It does, however, influence one's immediate opportunities. If we want political connections we should go Slytherin, if we want to leave our mark on the world by writing a book we should go Ravenclaw. Obviously we can still write a book if we go with Slytherin, but it'll take some extra effort to make the right connections to learn how to do it well, and yes there are some political connections to be made in Ravenclaw, but there are far more in Slytherin if we've the mettle to claim them.
Corvus Black
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Voldemort could have had any job in the world that he wanted. It came as a great surprise to almost everyone that he 'settled' for Borgin and Burkes.
Are we even going to stay at Hogwarts after this year? I mean, our parents didn't want us to go even when Voldemort was absent. Given that he's going to get resurrected soonish (unless he decides to just chill and fuck off for a century or two, until his Chosen nemesis dies of natural causes?), they're sure to resume home-schooling us again.
So I'm not sure whether we'll be able to establish any deep political connections there. SV doesn't seem inclined to to aggressively play the social game, which is what we'll need to do if we want things to last beyond this year.
So I'm not sure whether we'll be able to establish any deep political connections there. SV doesn't seem inclined to to aggressively play the social game, which is what we'll need to do if we want things to last beyond this year.
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If I wanted to see 7 years of re-hashed canon, I'd go to FFN and read the 200 000 fanfics that do it.
Please, don't force me.
The slash. The Draco/Harry. The Harry/Voldemort.
Oh God. I'm having PTSD flashbacks.
Please, have mercy! I beg of you!
I didn't even know The Root be traumatised until now!
If I wanted to see 7 years of re-hashed canon, I'd go to FFN and read the 200 000 fanfics that do it.
Please, don't force me.
The slash. The Draco/Harry. The Harry/Voldemort.
Oh God. I'm having PTSD flashbacks.
Please, have mercy! I beg of you!
I didn't even know The Root be traumatised until now!
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It's also not an option
We're arguing the merits of the houses, that seems somewhat on topic to me.Isn't that an argument for Slytherin? Lily was Head Girl and I don't remember hearing that she could have her pick of jobs. Also this is another example of you not directly replying to my arguments!
Deep political connections will be easier in a house geared towards that and where we already have an in! And if we've already been at hogwarts for a year we may be able to get them to let us stay. It's all terribly speculative though.
Alright, so you don't want Gryffindor but what about Slytherin? Or at least why Ravenclaw specifically?
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Yeah, but the Ravenclaw cliches are slightly less annoying and easier to avoid
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Less annoying maybe but avoiding any confrontation and keeping your head in the books is kinda boring. And personally I'd be inclined to trust these two to be aware of cliches and avoid them where they can.
With our family history, for us to have access to Slytherin we're going to have to be in Slytherin imo.
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Corvus Black
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Are you actually being serious? That was a direct reply to your post - you were saying how one's House limited their options when leaving school and I pointed out that Voldemort had his pick of jobs despite the bad reputation of Slytherin.
Also, on what do you base Lily's lack of job offers?
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You may think that. I don't, but do find dealing with Slytherin politics tedious.
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Did Slytherin have a bad reputation back when Tom graduated? I thought that was more recent. And I base Lily's lack of total options on the fact that it was said that Tom had his pick and it wasn't discussed with Lily. Obviously as Head Girl she had some options.
That's fair. I'm less interested in Slytherin politics than I am in the fruits of such.
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