Going To Make A Krillin! (Dragon Ball SI)

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Dragon Ball canon is screwy. It's even more screwy when you try to plot out changes and your only memories of canon is the abridged, foggy reminiscence of reading the OG Dragon Ball manga, and bitter recollections of losing in the fighting games. Good thing I'm not alone and can ask my fellow SIs for help!

Wait, what?
Chapter 1: In Which Canon Slowly Teeters At The Rails
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Done.

I'm finally fucking done with life.

This is it. Fuck life. I've already died once. I know there's an afterlife. I know there's reincarnation, it's just a matter of rerolling the gacha wheel. And sure, it sounds like I'm about to kill myself, but I'm not.

This insane, spartan training is what kills me. Not Piccolo's demons. Not Frieza, or is it Freeza? Either/or. Not that fucker either. Not Cell. Not Buu. Not any of the BS in Super. No, the beginning of the story. THe very first time I appear. The training. The part before all the crazy Dragon Ball powerwank Bullshit starts ramping up.

This is what kills me. If I have to lug this forty kilo turtle shell for another day, I will stab something, most likely myself, and enjoy it. I am exhausted.

"Come on Krillin!" my training mate shouted, "Just one more time! We're almost done."

I don't have the best memory of Dragon Ball. I only read the mangas and that was a LONG time ago. At least a decade. More importantly, I didn't touch the filler. Closest I have to knowing filler is the Team Fourstar Abridged series. I would have if I knew how much Dragon Ball lore was going to affect my life. Point is that my Dragon Ball lore is spotty at best.

I sure as fuck don't remember Krillin practicing fighting against Goku before the Tenkaichi Budokai. Especially with forty kilogram turtle shells. Did I mention the forty kilogram turtle shells? Those things SUCK!

"Shut up, Goku! That's what you said the last five times we fought! Not all of us are battle maniacs like you!" I shouted even as I rocked the turtle shell back and forth to hop onto my feet once more.

"But it's the last day!" Goku stomped his feet in excitement. "We're going to go fight and I want to be all warmed up!"

"Ugh, fine," I rolled my eyes before dropping into a squat stance with a half twist at the waist. I then motioned with my hand for him to come at me, signaling my readiness.

And come at me he did, leaping forward with a double handed rocket punch. Kicking off the ground, I pivoted on one foot, using the bare minimum to dodge. As he sped past me, I leant in with an open palm strike to the chest.

It connected with a satisfying smack, but I didn't stop there. Hopping off the ground, I drove my full body weight into the strike, forcing his body to slam into the ground. I stayed like that for a moment, a one handed handstand on top of a wheezing Goku.

Of course, I paid dearly for my showing off when Goku suddenly kipped up, throwing me off of him. Flipping through the air, I quickly reoriented myself to land on the ground before throwing my hands up into a cross to block the dropping axe kick from Goku.

Turning my hands around, I immediately sandwiched his leg between my hands to catch it. With a quick twist of my body, I slammed him into the ground once more. This time, I didn't pause and immediately stepped forward to stomp at his face.

He rolled away and I chased with three more follow up stomps. On my last stomp however, he caught it with a grin, shouting, "Got you now!"

Then he hauled my foot to his curled up body. I allowed him to pull my leg towards him, lowering my body as he did so to keep balance and keeping my torso away from him. The end result was that I was effectively squatting on one bent leg with one foot fully extended.

A strange position for sure, but not one where I had fallen. Eyes furrowing in confusion, Goku muttered, "What the…?"

Tapping my bent back leg, I grinned and butchered a forgotten quote from one of my old martial arts lessons, "So long as one grasps the world with even one limb, one shall never fall."

Then I pressed my caught foot against the ground, giving me two points of contact against the earth. Extending my bent leg, I rushed forward, keeping my body low to the ground to hit Goku with another palm strike to the face.

It was my turn to be confused when that only caused him to hug my foot tighter. Poking him once, twice, thrice, I briefly thought about hitting him again, but… well, that seemed unnecessarily dickish. Patting his head lightly, I whispered, "Uh… Are you just going to hug my leg?"

His response was to suddenly twist his body to launch a kick to the side of my head.

My response was to quickly lean back and see my life flash before my eyes as his kick whiffed right across where my nose was. You know, if I had one. Tucking my chin, I let myself fall onto my back, rolling to lift Goku. As he let go of my leg, I took the opportunity to use the other leg to kick him off into the distance.

Finishing the roll, I fell back into my stance and shouted, "Dick move!"

"Ka" was the answering call. I was confused until I saw him in the infamous position of the Turtle School's signature move. He mirrored my stance, but instead of having his hands up in a defensive position, he had his hands clutched together at his side as if he was clutching a ball.

"Me" Instead of the ball of dense energy known as Ki. AKA SHIT THAT I CAN'T FUCKING DO!

"That's not fair!" I shouted as I dashed forward, arms crossed across my face. I could run away, but that would just give him time to charge it further. And also aim. My only hope was to disrupte the casting.

"Ha" the asshole continued channeling Ki into his move, ignoring my completely valid point of it not being fair. Gritting my teeth, I glared at him as I focused on gathering Ki to my arms. I couldn't manifest it like he and Master Roshi could, but I sure as FUCK could manipulate it and boost my movements.

"ME" he began thrusting his hands forward, the ball of light beginning to extend forward into the beginnings of lance. Keeping my arms in front of me, I hopped forward to slide into a brake, forcing Ki into my legs, setting myself up for a hail mary.

"HA!" Goku shouted, finishing the move.

Leaning forward, I leapt with Ki-empowered legs at the beam, hitting it with my still-crossed arms. It was unbearably hot and I would never be able to withstand it like the muscle bound idiots of Dragon Ball Z. Thankfully, blocking it was never my intention.

Bracing my arms, I hit it at an angle, forcing the beam to hit slightly lower than me. More importantly, the recoil allowed me to bring my legs over my head in such a way that I was sent flying into the air. Flipping once, twice, thrice, I quickly spread my arms out to control my descent. Keeping one leg extended and the other bent, I descended foot first towards Goku's gobsmacked face, shouting, "FALCON KICK!"

The impact was oh~SO satisfying~ Especially since I had coated the very tip of my foot in Ki and the impact ignited it so that if one was to film the thing, I burst beautifully into flame at the point of contact, displaying a kick that Captain Falcon would be proud of.

Of course, Goku being the bullshit berserker he is, just grabbed my leg before twirling me around to send me flying. He didn't even have the decency to look phased as he did it, just grinning madly as he tossed me. Just spit on all my training for near perfect technique with your stupid haxx brute strength, why don't you!?

Crossing my arms once more, I tucked my ball as I crashed through a wooden wall, rolling as I landed. As soon as I got back up, I got a nice big eyefull of a pair of breasts of a magazine called Hooters.

Then it was lowered so a pair of eyes could glare over a pair of shades menacingly. For a bald old man, Muten Roshi sure could make an aura when he wanted to.

Smiling with an impending sense of doom, I quickly bowed. "Hello, Master Roshi. Apologies for the mess! Our spar just got a bit too enthusiastic."

From my peripheral vision, I saw the magazine slide onto the coffee table. Closed. And more importantly, the backside up. Goku and I were so fucking dead.

"Get Goku. We're having a discussion."

Bowing even lower, I saluted, palm over fist."Hai."

...We were SO fucked.





Kneeling before our master, Goku and I bowed our heads as Master Roshi loomed silently over us. It felt as if we were in a courtroom where he was the Judge, Jury, and Executioner. The debris and hole in the wall existed, poignantly existing to act as the wtness and accuser of our sins.

Master Rosh finally broke the silence with a sgh, "So who broke the house this time?"

Immediately, I pointed at the culprit, unabashedly tossing him into the blastwave, "Goku."

"You made me do it!" Goku refuted.

Looking at him, I lowered my eyelids to give him a flat stare. "How did I MAKE you use the Kamehameha!?"

"You were strong!" Goku complimented. Clever of him. It made me almost not want to ht hm for his stupidity because of how fuzzy it made me to hear one of the universe's strongest fighters call me strong. The other part was filled with righteous rage.

"I was using technique!" I spat back before pointing at the wall, "And you threw me at the house!"

"That you broke!" He pointed at me with a grn.

I returned it with a pointing finger and scowl. "That you THREW me at!"

Shrugging, Goku sighed, shaking his head as if I was in the wrong. "Well, you kicked me in the face.."

If I had hair, I'd be pulling it out right now. Slamming both hands on the ground, I barely reframed from shouting Objection. "You used the Kamehameha! I thought we agreed! No Ki Attacks!"

He had the gall to pout, crossing his arms and turning his face away to sulk. "Then how am I supposed to practice them!"

I waved my hands n confusion, not quite sure how or even where to begin refuting. Eventually, I pinched the brow of my nose and just breathed. Then I shouted, "When we're not fighting!? I can't do that yet! It's not fair to use it against me!"

"How else would you learn!?" Goku yelled back. With honest confusion in his voice, Kami save me from his dumbassery.

"Not all of us are monkeys! It's not something as simple as monkey see, monkey do!"

"I already taught you how though!"

"Your teaching was and I quote, 'Make a burnie squishie ball. Hold it in your hands, then push and FUWAH!'" I mockingly repeated in a high pitched voice, following the movements he showed me in the exact same way.

"Well, you can do it!" Goku pouted, crossing his arms and looking away. "You can make the burnie squishie now!"

My mouth dropped. Then I leapt to my feet and pinched his face to make him look at me. With my other hand, I focused. Focused. FOCUSED. And then a very, very, VERY small ball of light popped into existence above the palm. Shoving it into his face for him to look at, I shouted, "I CAN MAKE A TINY ASS LIGHT BULB! I'M A USELESS FLASHLIGHT!"

It radiated heat quite well, so I could also be a walking radiator, but my point was thus. My biggest achievement with Ki so far beside strengthening my body was to become a fucking household appliance.

Ripping his face free, he grinned, dropping into a stance, ready for another fight. Good. I wanted to shove my fucking light ball down his stupi--

"BOTH OF YOU SIT DOWN!" Master Roshi shouted.

Immediately, the both of us sat down into Seiza, bowing "Hai!" We had gotten quite heated and had stood up during our argument at some point. It was embarassing to say the least.

"Finally! I've been trying to get your attention for a while now," Master Roshi sighed. Then he cleared hs throat before he began the lecture, "Now onto the original intent of this conversation. Both of you are in the wrong. Goku, you have to learn better control. Think of the consequences before acting. I can't keep paying contractors to fix the house. As for you, Krillin…"-He hummed in thought before stroking his beard-"Actually, now that I think about it, you didn't actually do anything wrong."

"...Well, I could've deescalated the fight sooner," I offered, uncomfortable with the idea of only Goku getting chewed out. Logically, I knew Master Roshi well enough that he was a good teacher who didn't have a bas. Emotionally, I was still an introverted piece of shit who got weirded out if I wasn't being scolded.

He shook his head in disagreement. "No. I was watching and Goku acted much too fast for you to properly deescalate the fight. Excellent recovery at the end by the way. Your fighting style has an excellent foundation. You move too little though, staying in one place for far too long. There will come a time when waiting will simply amount to nothing."-Readjusting his shades, they caught the light to become completely white as if he was Gendo Ikari-"At times, you must move to hunt and open opportunities for victory. Don't feel too bad about not being able to do the Kamehameha. It takes much practice to pull it off reliably. Being able to manifest Ki is already quite impressive. Right now, your Ki Enforcement is top notch and will complement your martial arts nicely."

"On that note," Master Roshi turned to face Goku, completely slipping into teaching mode. It kind of irked me because it felt as if this wasn't in canon, but… It has been more than a decade since I touched the original material.

"Goku," he addressed with a smile, "I must say that your Kamehameha is getting better. You still need to work on your hand to hand, but your daily sparring with Krillin has already honed it. Yours is the opposite problem. Where Krillin stays too still, you move too much, jumping from place to place and acting on the spur of the moment. Learn how to have a proper stance and a proper form and you will find opportunities open up more often than expected."

Goku nodded as if he understood. Though the way he crossed hs arms and furrowed his brow as soon as Master Roshi turned around meant he definitely did not understand. Elbowing him, I muttered, "What he means is that I don't move enough and you move too much. Also that you need to work on technique."

He grinned, slapping a fist into a palm in understanding, whispering "That makes so much more sense! Thanks, Krillin."

"Now we're going to eat dinner," Master Roshi called out to us as he sat down at the dining table, already shoving food into his maw A bit rude, but then he is the eldest and also our master, so he had that right. "Launch has made us a lovely meal, katsudon! The bowl of victory!"

As the both of us took our seats at the table, Launch, the blond/black haired bipolar criminal we had… taken back a few months prior, placed two steaming bowls of fried pork meat over rice. She was thankfully in her mellow black haired form. I feel like Toriyama was being a bit stereotypical with the violent blond yankee girl stereotype, but fuck it.

She's a good cook. Like a really fucking good cook. Bit murderous in her blond form, but Launch-Black is a nice girl. Bit too defenseless against Ero-Master Roshi, but that's why I've been teaching Goku to drink his RESPECT WOMEN juice. Speaking of…

I slapped Goku's hand and scolded, "Oi! Thank the cook and give thanks for the meal before you eat!"

"Oh!" Goku nodded even as he rubbed his hand, "Thanks Launch!"-Then following my motion, he clasped both palms together and bowed his head, whispering, "Ittidakimasu!"

As he began shoveling food down, I followed suit and thanked Launch as she sat down with her dinner. Giving thanks for the food, I then grabbed the srirarcha bottle and started drowning my bowl of katsudon. If I had no memories of having a sense of smell, I'm sure I'd have enjoyed the meal as is. The thing about not having a nose though is that it makes all food taste that much more blander. Thankfully, spiciness wasn't so much a taste so much as a sensation. A painful, tasty one.

Bonus point was that nobody ever tried to steal food from my red hot bowl of danger.

"After this," Master Roshi said even as he chewed food. This was annoying since I had just gotten Goku to stop chewing with his mouth open and I just KNOW he's going to backslide. " the both of you are going to fix that hole in the wall. And you're not going to sleep until you fix it."

We groaned even as we continued to eat. Chores sucked.

"No aws," Master Roshi scolded, clacking hs chopsticks together, "I understand the tournament is tomorrow, but I've already given the both of you far too many freebies when it comes to breaking shit. Stop breaking it or learn how to fix it."

...He had a point. I elbowed Goku and when he turned to look at me, I tilted my head at Master Roshi.

There was suddenly a sneeze and Launch's hair turned into a bushy blond. We didn't pay much attention to that now. Blond Launch had long stopped trying to kill the three of us after Master Roshi started using her bullets to help teach us to DODGE.

...There's something off about that statement, but for the life of me, I can't put my finger on it. Ah well! Enjoy the food! After this, we have chores...





Fixing a wall was hard. It wasn't just a simple matter of using wood to repair it, one also had to do plaster. And plaster could take forever to dry. Okay. Add in the ramen noodles. Add on the plaster. Add on water with the spritz bottle. And… carefully hold the Ki Ball next to it to dry the plaster faster.

...Okay, it wasn't hard. Just time consuming to wait for it to dry… But not if you use Ki to cheat! There! All dry! Dismissing the ball of Ki, I got outthe sandpaper and began sanding, using it to practice some basic motions. Wax on. Wax off. Wax on. Wax off.

Just as I finished and was beginning to spray the pain on, Goku stopped hammering and shouted, "I'm done on my side Krillin!"

"Just about done on the plaster side too!" I called back, "Go brush your teeth and then we'll go sleep."

"Okay!"

Putting on the final touches, I left to quickly join Goku in the nightly ritual of night. Brushing out teeth, showering, it was all boring. Getting out the futons, I crawled in to bed, sleeping on my stomach. I tried sleeping on my back, but the turtle shell just… kind of fucked up my back.

And now to sleep! I'm not going to win any tournaments tomorrow, but who knows! If I do well enough, I might get second and third place prizes! Does the tournament have that? I can't quite remember… Ah well. Close the eyes, count the sheep and sleep...

"Sorry for throwing you," Goku said suddenly, snapping me out of sleep.

"That's fine," I answered, keeping my eyes closed, I'm more annoyed that we broke the house again." Also annoyed at how you woke me up right when I was about to sleep, but it's fine.

"That just means we're strong!" he shouted.

Gritting my teeth, I stubbornly refused to open them. I may have lost that little trance state between awakeness and sleepiness, but if I can get Goku to shut up long enough, I'm sure I can return to it. Wait! I'll just give him a lot of words. "Strength means nothing without control, idiot! You can break the coconut all you want, but if all the juice leaks out and the meat is ruined, what was the point of breaking it? Besides, do you want to always break the place where you sleep?"

"No, I don't," Goku sighed before perking up, "Is that why Master Roshi is always going on about control and taking it slow! Now it makes sense! Thanks, Krillin! You're smart."

...I did not expect him to understand that word vomit. "Uh… You are too. Just in a different way."

"Do you think I can be smart like you?" Goku suddenly asked a ridiculously heavy question.

Ugh… He was always an idiot for anything other than fighting. Guy got married because of a promise he didn't understand. He's a horrible father. He gets tricked way too often. It's honestly a miracle that earth survived with how often he saved his enemies out of some misguided moral compass. Honestly, who the fuck heals a genocidal fuck like Freeza? If only he learned… Learned… Learned not to do that!

Why settle for canon events when I can make it more streamlined!? Less pain and suffering! Teach Goku to just finish the job! Or something like that! Keeping my eyes closed, I answered, "Of course! You just have to train! It's hard though."

"Can you teach me?"

"Yes." Yes, I will, my little meal ticket to fame, power, and riches. Yes, I will.

"Thanks!" Goku pepped. He was silent before continuing, "You're strong."

"Thanks," I blushed. Honestly, knowing what I know, it was a surprsie that I didn't melt to the ground. THe universe's strongest thought I was strong.

"I'm going to beat you though," he growled good naturedly.

"Looking forward to it," I replied honestly. I mean, if he beat me, then everything will want to kill him, not me. And also… Actually, I don't know. Life's confusing, but I'll just support him. He may be my meal ticket, but he's also my friend.

The only response was snoring. Fucker had the stupid ability of instantly falling asleep. I liked him. He's a nice guy and strong. It was still pissing me off that he could instantly drop to sleep when he was the one who kept me awake and left me WIDE awake with all his questions.

...It was still mind boggling that I was somehow a better fighter than Goku right now. To be fair, he relied too heavily on his natural Saiyan strength and instincts. I had the advantage of having dabbled in multiple martial arts in my old life and training at the Orin temple in this one. My foundation was solid yet adaptable. If there wasn't such a thing as MMA in this world, then I invented it.

It was a heady feeling knowing that my win-loss ratio against Son Goku was in my favor. Of course, that was going to change soon. Pretty soon, I'll just be the appetizer that serves to introduce the main villain, lucky to survive and even luckier to be relevant.

I think the major ones were… Piccolo and Vegeta. They both will eventually turn good, but both have the ability to kill me if I fuck up. I think Piccolo even kills Krillin at some point. Freeza definitely kills me, Perfect Cell almost kills the world, Buu is a complete clusterfuck that does kill the world, and the entirety of Dragon Ball Super completely breaks the scale with the introduction of literal Gods.

At that point, forget being appetizer, I'm going to be the after-dinner mint that will be lucky if it survives long enough to be washed away in the washing machine, having been tucked away in a pocket to be forgotten.

And that's not even getting into the special ways all the spin offs have to kill you. Dead Zone, erasure from time, these are but a few of the special ways to suffer for all of eternity.

So here's my plan. Stick as CLOSE to Goku for all of the pre-Z powerwank. That way, I stand a pretty good chance of surviving the Z-bullshit. ANd I mean, Goku's basically a living MacGuffing and Deus Ex Machina. Eventually, EVERYTHING turns out well for those near him, especially if he likes them.

Yeah. I know my place in life. I'm Krillin. Average human that's just barely above Yamcha in terms of being a joke in this universe. Sure, I have the potential to turn into one of the most powerful earthlings in the universe. But I'll still be useless in the grand scheme of things. So I should enjoy my journey into powerful irrelevance. Be the quirky and helpful sidekick that retires into the background to train the next generation or something. My biggest perk in life is that I'm best friends with Goku.

Yeah. Just got to surve long enough to reap the benefits. Then I can sit back and relax and fuck around like Master Roshi.

...For now, SLEEP!

One sheep... two sheep... three sheep…
 
Welcome to yet another WIP

Just for funsies and also to cope with the sadness of TeamFourStars indefinite hiatus.

IT'S NOT A CANCELLATION! THEY'RE JUST GOING ON INDEFINITE HIATUS! THEY MIGHT COME BACK SOME DAY!

but yeah, i wanted to write something fun.
 
I kinda want to see what happens if Krillin wishes for a species change or a body refinement technique. I mean, he'd probably still end up second string to Goku and Vegita, but the guy's responsible for inventing, pound for pound, the most lethal attack in the series, and is far more like Roshi in fighting methodology than any of the other protagonists, meaning he's interesting to watch without Roshi's "and now I shall ass-pull one hundred unknown techniques" issue.
Add a species change to Saiyan, or even just refine his body enough to let him hit in a similar ballpark? Well, the only reason Goku had to fight Frieza was Krillin's inability to properly aim, so if he could've tracked Frieza properly?
 
I read a fanfic with a self insert Tien just before the start of DBZ and it made me hungry for this sort of thing, so thank you for writing this story.
 
Interesting start so far, although IIRC nice Launch has dark blue hair, not black. This Krillin SI is quite the snarky fellow, and it'll be interesting to see how far he can go with technique alone.

Roshi managed to hold his own by sheer dint of experience in the Tournament of Power, after all, so being a Saiyan isn't everything in battle.
 
Interesting start so far, although IIRC nice Launch has dark blue hair, not black. This Krillin SI is quite the snarky fellow, and it'll be interesting to see how far he can go with technique alone.

Roshi managed to hold his own by sheer dint of experience in the Tournament of Power, after all, so being a Saiyan isn't everything in battle.
If nothing else this SI knows whatever happens there will always be intense danger coming so it'll be nice to see how far a Krillian can go when he doesn't slack off training just because the main big bad was defeated and it seems like a 'happily ever after'.
 
I kinda want to see what happens if Krillin wishes for a species change or a body refinement technique. I mean, he'd probably still end up second string to Goku and Vegita, but the guy's responsible for inventing, pound for pound, the most lethal attack in the series, and is far more like Roshi in fighting methodology than any of the other protagonists, meaning he's interesting to watch without Roshi's "and now I shall ass-pull one hundred unknown techniques" issue.
Add a species change to Saiyan, or even just refine his body enough to let him hit in a similar ballpark? Well, the only reason Goku had to fight Frieza was Krillin's inability to properly aim, so if he could've tracked Frieza properly?
Hmm...
"I wish i was the same race as Frieza, but with a Saiyans ability to get stronger when near death"?
 
I kinda want to see what happens if Krillin wishes for a species change
I really hate how everyone always has to bring this up, because it's such a cop-out answer. Not to mention the only precedent for becoming a saiyan via Dragon balls is for a body swap and awakening watered down ancestry for cross-breeds, which I know some people aren't going to take as a valid argument, but it's still worth mentioning that it might not be possible in the first place to perform a total race swap; Shenron was unable to tun 17 and 18 back into humans. You could skip the Dragon balls and go become a werewolf or vampire if you want to be better than human, you know? Then use the balls to wish for immortality, and use Kaio-ken and big dick ki attacks like the tri-beam to stay somewhat relevant in later events.
 
Just do timeskips to interesting moments, dont think theres enough here for a full story.
What makes you say that? I rather got the impression the story was going to go through Dragon Ball canon, both original and Z time periods, showing Krillin trying to alter events for the better using foreknowledge.
 
Hmm...
"I wish i was the same race as Frieza, but with a Saiyans ability to get stronger when near death"?
I wouldn't bother choosing his race, since Frieza is essentially their equivalent of a Legendary Super Saiyan.
I really hate how everyone always has to bring this up, because it's such a cop-out answer. Not to mention the only precedent for becoming a saiyan via Dragon balls is for a body swap and awakening watered down ancestry for cross-breeds, which I know some people aren't going to take as a valid argument, but it's still worth mentioning that it might not be possible in the first place to perform a total race swap; Shenron was unable to tun 17 and 18 back into humans. You could skip the Dragon balls and go become a werewolf or vampire if you want to be better than human, you know? Then use the balls to wish for immortality, and use Kaio-ken and big dick ki attacks like the tri-beam to stay somewhat relevant in later events.
Yeah... it's not really a cop-out when the SI's just deciding to angle for a blatantly obvious advantage, and the returns you'd get from turning into a vampire or werewolf are actually pretty small compared to the disadvantages, like so:
-Werewolf gets punted through a mountain
-mountain contains silver
-werewolf dies;
Whereas vampires have a whole slew of weaknesses, and time training to circumvent these is time you could be training, which is why I suggested wishing for a technique as an alternative.
 
It's not a blatant obvious advantage if he doesn't have the drive to train all day, every day, in ever more trying conditions, for years on end. Which is what the super saiyans do. And on a meta level, it is 100% a cop-out to become Krillin and then wish to be a saiyan.
 
It's not a blatant obvious advantage if he doesn't have the drive to train all day, every day, in ever more trying conditions, for years on end. Which is what the super saiyans do. And on a meta level, it is 100% a cop-out to become Krillin and then wish to be a saiyan.
.....That's pretty much what Krillin did all through Dragon Ball and into Z until the Saiyan's zenkai boosts and various transformations made him redundant. I mean, Goku's whole trip to Namek pretty much consisted of training his body to the edge of destruction and then chucking back senzu beans to heal, only to up the gravity and repeat. I doubt Krillin would've passed up the chance for a power up like Goku got from that, which means it's far more likely the training wouldn't have had the same result on account of him being a squishy human.

As for it being a cop-out on a meta level? Becoming a Saiyan is the resident low hanging fruit when wishing for a power-up, so for the author to justify not doing so they'd need to instead wish for something at least subjectively better from the character's perspective, which is yet again why I suggested a body refinement technique.
 
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I am OVERWHELMED and quite happy with all the love and attention this fanfiction has been getting. Full disclosure, I wrote this on the spur of the moment and also because while the humans are useless was funny, it's also kind of sad.

Humans are humans! We can't overpower something? Fine. We'll find a way around it. THat's the theme of this story if there was one. Why hit harder? When you can hit smarter

keep going...… I NEED this, also watch

Thank you!
Neat.


What indeed...

Indeedie dodie! Who knows!?

I'll bite.

I'm down to see this continue.

Thank you!

I kinda want to see what happens if Krillin wishes for a species change or a body refinement technique. I mean, he'd probably still end up second string to Goku and Vegita, but the guy's responsible for inventing, pound for pound, the most lethal attack in the series, and is far more like Roshi in fighting methodology than any of the other protagonists, meaning he's interesting to watch without Roshi's "and now I shall ass-pull one hundred unknown techniques" issue.
Add a species change to Saiyan, or even just refine his body enough to let him hit in a similar ballpark? Well, the only reason Goku had to fight Frieza was Krillin's inability to properly aim, so if he could've tracked Frieza properly?

Fun fact, Shenron can't actually change species for a wish.

And yeah, Krillin is definitely going to refine his body so to speak. I mean most of Dragon Ball's training is just body refinement techniques what with the weighted turtle shell, the weighted clothing, the weighted gravity. Man, Toriyama sure loved his weights, eh?

But sadly, humans can only go so far with body refinement... WHICH IS WHY WE SHALL INTRODUCE THE BULLSHIT THAT IS KI CONTROL AND REFINEMENT!

Interesting premise! Watched.

Thank you!

I read a fanfic with a self insert Tien just before the start of DBZ and it made me hungry for this sort of thing, so thank you for writing this story.

Link to that one please?

Interesting start so far, although IIRC nice Launch has dark blue hair, not black. This Krillin SI is quite the snarky fellow, and it'll be interesting to see how far he can go with technique alone.

Roshi managed to hold his own by sheer dint of experience in the Tournament of Power, after all, so being a Saiyan isn't everything in battle.

The plan is for Krillin to upgrade vanilla martial arts with Ki. So expect to see some of the bullshit from History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi.

When that stops proving useful, expect to see bullshit like Rokushiki, the Breath Arts from Demon Slayer, and other replicable martial arts from other shonen.

Oh and here's a hint. Naruto's powerscaling is PRETTY similar to that of Dragon Balls. Except there's is more interesting because it isn't just HOO-RAH-BIBBIDY-BABBIDY-MY DICK, i mean, POWER LEVEL is BIGGER! Though it did end up like that, but point is! They had some really cool techniques

Why do I bring this up? ...Meh, y'alls smart, y'all can probs guess what i'm aiming for.

If nothing else this SI knows whatever happens there will always be intense danger coming so it'll be nice to see how far a Krillian can go when he doesn't slack off training just because the main big bad was defeated and it seems like a 'happily ever after'.

This Krillin will never stop training. And if he does stop training, it's because he's pursuing a different method of prevention.

Hmm...
"I wish i was the same race as Frieza, but with a Saiyans ability to get stronger when near death"?

That could work. But the rules for the OG dragon balls don't allow it. Also, I just don't like cop outs like that. Or rather ones that are too small brained. I never understood why the DBZ cast didn't just wish

"I wish that every violent death was reversed at the end of the year!"

I mean, that's a pretty nice catch all. And it would save time.

Just do timeskips to interesting moments, dont think theres enough here for a full story.

I might do that. There's some in-between bits I might touch upon to set up some training moments, but i won't go into every day stuff too bad. Unless it's really funny.

I really hate how everyone always has to bring this up, because it's such a cop-out answer. Not to mention the only precedent for becoming a saiyan via Dragon balls is for a body swap and awakening watered down ancestry for cross-breeds, which I know some people aren't going to take as a valid argument, but it's still worth mentioning that it might not be possible in the first place to perform a total race swap; Shenron was unable to tun 17 and 18 back into humans. You could skip the Dragon balls and go become a werewolf or vampire if you want to be better than human, you know? Then use the balls to wish for immortality, and use Kaio-ken and big dick ki attacks like the tri-beam to stay somewhat relevant in later events.

That's true. but breaking the power system that way is boring! I want to introduce other shit.

Like Ki infused academics. Also magic is a thing.

What makes you say that? I rather got the impression the story was going to go through Dragon Ball canon, both original and Z time periods, showing Krillin trying to alter events for the better using foreknowledge.

There's also going to be some stuff from the abridged because I like some of the explanations better. Such as Android 16s backstory and Piccolo's dialogue with Nail.

Hehehehe.

Looking forward to him regretting everything once he meets Mr. Popo.

Sadly, Mr. Popo will be his canon self. Though, I might make him a bit of a mash of the two.

Just bring a gallon of LSD and everything will be fine.

Weed's better.

I wouldn't bother choosing his race, since Frieza is essentially their equivalent of a Legendary Super Saiyan.

Yeah... it's not really a cop-out when the SI's just deciding to angle for a blatantly obvious advantage, and the returns you'd get from turning into a vampire or werewolf are actually pretty small compared to the disadvantages, like so:
-Werewolf gets punted through a mountain
-mountain contains silver
-werewolf dies;
Whereas vampires have a whole slew of weaknesses, and time training to circumvent these is time you could be training, which is why I suggested wishing for a technique as an alternative.

Powerwank for the sake of powerwank is kind of boring. Sorry.

It's not a blatant obvious advantage if he doesn't have the drive to train all day, every day, in ever more trying conditions, for years on end. Which is what the super saiyans do. And on a meta level, it is 100% a cop-out to become Krillin and then wish to be a saiyan.

That is very true. If I wanted to write a saiyan, I'd just do an SI as Goku and then speedrun Dragon Ball.

.....That's pretty much what Krillin did all through Dragon Ball and into Z until the Saiyan's zenkai boosts and various transformations made him redundant. I mean, Goku's whole trip to Namek pretty much consisted of training his body to the edge of destruction and then chucking back zenzu beans to heal, only to up the gravity and repeat. I doubt Krillin would've passed up the chance for a power up like Goku got from that, which means it's far more likely the training wouldn't have had the same result on account of him being a squishy human.

As for it being a cop-out on a meta level? Becoming a Saiyan is the resident low hanging fruit when wishing for a power-up, so for the author to justify not doing so they'd need to instead wish for something at least subjectively better from the character's perspective, which is yet again why I suggested a body refinement technique.

Krillin is going to go to body refinement. And he's also going to completely abuse the one perk that he gets. Hint, it has to do with how he breathes with his skin.
 
Fun fact, Shenron can't actually change species for a wish.
That could work. But the rules for the OG dragon balls don't allow it.
Hmm...
"I wish i was able to shapeshift while keeping my power and skills no matter the form, with the ability to change back whenever i want"?
Also, I just don't like cop outs like that. Or rather ones that are too small brained. I never understood why the DBZ cast didn't just wish

"I wish that every violent death was reversed at the end of the year!"

I mean, that's a pretty nice catch all. And it would save time.
To be fair, "they just didn't think of it" would probably work as an answer...
Goku isn't exactly the smartest when it comes to non-fighting things.
 
Nice to see that you are going to continue the story.
And kinda think that I get what you trying to say about ki control and refinement stuff, its might be like physically strengthening the body as usually people in Dbz(s) have more destructive ki blasts than physical might so that might be the way you are(might) taking it?
Just want to add another thing that while I have no say in what you write the time when characters just use 'jutsus' and justify by saying ki=chakra is kinda jarring(as chakra kinda mix of energies going through a certain pathway in the body, while ki is a free flowing energy in the whole body). Nice to remember that magic is still a thing. Elemental techniques will be useful for the dragon ball time period but will lose their usefulness later though😭(why bother using mist,lava,air when your opponent is physically not affected by their damage). Maybe Focus can be on Kiao-Ken cause if Krillen will be physically strong then the tax of the technique will be bearable.

Sorry for the rant.
Fof the wish idea - affect probability(fate) that events go by that are advantageous or result being which is ethically good and beneficial to everyone one who I think deserves it.( know that a person can be biased and not everyone can be judged equally due to environment but Still).
 
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What about making a wish the he switches bodies with Vegeta the moment he steps foot on Earth? Or a wire gets crossed on their pods so the Saiyans take a left swing into a deadly asteroid?
 
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