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Giving Worm PRT ratings to DC and Marvel Heros

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So I had this idea a bit ago and thought it was cool. After a bit of searching I couldn't find anything likes this anywhere! There is one now.

For those who haven't heard of worm is an awesome web serial created by wildbow.

The ratings are start a 0 for normal human, then go
Thinker 1 -> 12+ : Powers that give the user above average human intelligence. (Precognition, Super Intuition) Rated based on versatility
Brute 1 -> 12+ : Powers that enhance Durability and Strength. (Invincibility, Regeneration) Rated based on Strength and speed of healing
Master 1 -> 12+ : Powers that allow the user to control other creatures. (Projections, Humans or insects) Rated based on the strength of control.
Stranger 1 -> 12+ : Powers that affect others perception. (Invisibility, Illusions) Rated based on strength of illusions, invis etc...
Blaster 1 -> 12+ : Powers that give the user a long-ranged attack. (Lasers, Electricity) Rated based on range and strength.
Striker 1 -> 12+ : Powers that are touched based. (Healing, Tactile Telekinesis) Rated based on strength or versatility.
Changer 1 -> 12+ : Powers that change the users body. (Shapeshifting) Rated based on amount of forms.
Tinker 1 -> 12+ : Powers that give the user access to specific advanced technologies. (Power Armour, Shields) Rated based on how exotic the specialisation and power of tech. Tinkers are often given other ratings thanks to their tech.
Shaker 1 -> 12+ : Powers that allow the user to change their surroundings. (Hydrokinetics, Special Manipulation, Shields) Rated based on Range and Strength.
Mover 1 -> 12+ : Powers that give the user abilities to travel distances quickly. (Flight, Teleportation) Rated based on Speed and Range.
Trump 1 -> 12+ : Powers that 'Trump' others. (Power stealing) Rated on strength of ability.
Breaker 1 -> 12+ : Powers that tend to break the laws of the universe. (Hammer Space) Rated based on how "*^%$ up they make the universe.

Please keep in mind these ratings were created to display the threat level of the parahuman, not to niche their powers.

To start off lets do this team by team. First, The Avengers. Go forth!
 
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The Worm PRT system is bad. It's basically useless in multiple aspects, because it simply doesn't provide the pertinent information for its alleged role as a shorthand system useful for quick notes. Immediate question - do you have to be worried about a Master compromising elements of your team? You don't have a goddamn clue because this same rating covers "controls bugs" and "can possess a human being", when the necessary approach and the level of paranoia involved is totally different. What the hell does it even mean if someone's a Breaker? You don't know, because "breaks the laws of physics" is useless information in a setting where men turn into super-tough dragons. Why is super-strength in Brute rather than Striker? Who knows.

(that's before we get into how goddamn useless it is with regards to "being shouted into a noisy line during the middle of a battle". Because it's horrible for that. When you can so easily conflate 'Thinker' and 'Tinker', and 'Stranger' and 'Changer', your rating system is not doing its job. It's not fit for purpose.)
 
Black Widow: Brute 1 (slightly superhuman strength and endurance).

Hawkeye: Blaster 1 (superhuman aim with ranged weapons).

Captain America: Brute 4, Breaker 2 (superhuman strength, strongly superhuman endurance, shield, immunity to some environmental effects).

Thor: Brute 7, Mover 5, Blaster 6, Shaker 7 (superhuman strength and endurance, high speed flight, lightning blasts, weather control).

Incredible Hulk: Brute 9, Changer 1, Breaker 4 (strongly superhuman strength and endurance, size increase when enraged, complete immunity to some physical forces).

Ironman: Tinker 8 (Tinker specialty: robotics).
 
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EarthScorpion said:
The Worm PRT system is bad. It's basically useless in multiple aspects, because it simply doesn't provide the pertinent information for its alleged role as a shorthand system useful for quick notes. Immediate question - do you have to be worried about a Master compromising elements of your team? You don't have a goddamn clue because this same rating covers "controls bugs" and "can possess a human being", when the necessary approach and the level of paranoia involved is totally different. What the hell does it even mean if someone's a Breaker? You don't know, because "breaks the laws of physics" is useless information in a setting where men turn into super-tough dragons. Why is super-strength in Brute rather than Striker? Who knows.

(that's before we get into how goddamn useless it is with regards to "being shouted into a noisy line during the middle of a battle". Because it's horrible for that. When you can so easily conflate 'Thinker' and 'Tinker', and 'Stranger' and 'Changer', your rating system is not doing its job. It's not fit for purpose.)
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Yeah, this. The Master problem is especially eggregious, as a guy who can control people's minds is a totally different beast from one who can summon a pet monster.
 
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landcollector said:
Wouldn't this fit more under Thinker?
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Mmmaybe? Its one of the gray areas that @EarthScorpion was complaining about.

EDIT: did Flechette have a Thinker rating? He basically has her aiming power without the Stinger.

EDIT 2: I have a question about Widow's power. In the more recent MCU films, we've seen a few minor antagonists - Batroc, Crossbones, etc - who have strength and toughness comparable to hers, and they're acknowledged in-universe as being more than just very skilled humans. Did they explain this somewhere? Like, is there a standard "super soldier" augmentation process that various governments and organizations have access to?
 
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Not DC or Marvel, but Empowered:

Brute 4~ (can lift a ton or two, and high but ablative durability- when she takes damage all powers decline), Blaster 4 (plasma blasts), Breaker 3 (immune to space, nano invasion, and a grab bag of other stuff), Mover 3 (agility, super-jumping, wall-clinging. Also, in extreme circumstances, some flight), Tinker 2 (her suit lets her access alien technology and bypass security).

Blake Hannon said:
Captain America: Brute 5, Breaker 2 (superhuman strength, strongly superhuman endurance, immunity to some environmental effects).
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I don't know all the ratings, but if BW's a Brute 1 and Thor a 7, 5 seems high for capt!
 
Though honestly, I don't know if I could think of a good system for measuring and classifying superpowers that didn't either A, rely on bloat (five hundred different ratings, each completely different), or B, rely on the fact that it's a Tabletop Game and thus we have to quantify and define powers in an exact manner.

The PRT system is too simplified, yes, but I have no idea how goddamn complex and hard to remember over a phone call an actual system would be.

Honestly, it might be easier to ditch a lot of the rating systems and just go descriptive.

Lung: Has exponential growth as he fights, strong, tough, super-senses, can breathe fire, healing...

MAYBE just use some sort of rating system based on numbers? Like a toughness system, from 1 (normal human) to ...some number that represents (what Atom bomb?). But even that would have problems, since many Capes in Worm have selective defenses or weird things like that.
 
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Spider-Man:
Thinker = 4 (Spidey-Sense)
Brute = 6 (Guy can lift 10 tons if he needs to)
Master = 0
Stranger = 0
Blaster = 3 (Web Shooters can be annoying)
Striker = 1 (No threat, but his Stickem Powers are there!)
Changer = 0 (Would almost give this a rating because of his suit swap tendencies)
Tinker = 4 (Spidey themed gear! Biggest weakness? No funding!)
Shaker = 0
Mover = 6 (Have you seen the guy travel through the city? I dare you to keep up)
Trump = 0 (1 if Parker Luck is a thing)
Breaker = 0
 
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Though honestly, I don't know if I could think of a good system for measuring and classifying superpowers that didn't either A, rely on bloat (five hundred different ratings, each completely different), or B, rely on the fact that it's a Tabletop Game and thus we have to quantify and define powers in an exact manner.

The PRT system is too simplified, yes, but I have no idea how goddamn complex and hard to remember over a phone call an actual system would be.

Honestly, it might be easier to ditch a lot of the rating systems and just go descriptive.

Lung: Has exponential growth as he fights, strong, tough, super-senses, can breathe fire, healing...

MAYBE just use some sort of rating system based on numbers? Like a toughness system, from 1 (normal human) to ...some number that represents (what Atom bomb?). But even that would have problems, since many Capes in Worm have selective defenses or weird things like that.
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Method of attack seems like it should be the most important thing for the PRT to communicate. Maybe like...

Blaster: ranged attacks.
Brute: close quarters attacks.
Master: mind control.
Marshall: minions.
Shaker: environmental manipulation.
Mover: transportation.
Tank: resistance to damage.

The numerical scale for each category would range from 0 (normal human) to 10 (endbringer).

Stuff like Tinker, Thinker, Stranger, etc can all be slotted into one or more of the above depending on the exact nature of the abilities. Maybe there should still be a Trump category for people with changing or unpredictable powers, and if so pretty much all Tinkers would fall under it.
 
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Just doing some guys from DC


The Flash:
Mover 10+
Breaker 3 (whatever protects him from physical laws as he travels fast)
Thinker 2 (can think at superspeed)



Mr Miracle's usual avatar:
Thinker 4 (given how he usually uses his Motherbox)
Brute 3
Mover 2 (his little discs he stands on)
Breaker 1 (he's really good, unusually so, at escaping things)




Spectre:
Brute 10+
Master 5
Stranger 10+
Blaster 10+
Changer 2
Shaker 10+
Mover 10+
Trump 10+
Breaker 10+

:p
 
Blake Hannon said:
Brute covers both strength AND toughness. Cap isn't all that strong by superhero standards, but he's ridiculously hard to injure. Most of his Brute rating comes from that.
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He's... pretty tough, but his defense comes a lot from his shield. Otherwise his toughness is moderate, aided by his ability to roll with a hit. He's not bullet proof or anything.

If he just stood there, a strong foe like Iron Man could lay him out quite easily.
 
X-men now.


Professor X: Thinker 10, Master 9, Tinker 3 (telepathy and clairvoyance with unlimited range, body-puppeting, can build devices to boost his psi powers)

Wolverine: Brute 3, Striker 1 (slightly superhuman strength, extremely rapid healing factor, adamantium bones, adamantium claws)

Cyclops: Blaster 4 (energy beam)

Beast: Brute 2, Mover 1 (slightly superhuman strength and toughness, wall-crawling)

Rogue: Striker 5, Trump 6 (deadly touch, can steal watered down versions of other powers)

Storm: Mover 5, Blaster 6, Shaker 5 (flight, lightning, storm conjuring)

Jean Gray: Thinker 5, Mover 4, Blaster 10, Shaker 8 (telepathy, extremely powerful telekinesis. Boost all ratings to 10+ when she's in Phoenix mode)


Not that familiar with Gray's feats, I'm probably all wrong with her.
 
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Blake Hannon said:
X-men now.


Professor X: Thinker 10, Master 9, Tinker 3 (telepathy and clairvoyance with unlimited range, body-puppeting, can build devices to boost his psi powers)

Wolverine: Brute 3, Striker 1, Plot Armor 10 (slightly superhuman strength, extremely rapid healing factor, adamantium bones, adamantium claws)

Cyclops: Blaster 4 (energy beam)

Beast: Brute 2, Mover 1 (slightly superhuman strength and toughness, wall-crawling)

Rogue: Striker 5, Trump 6 (deadly touch, can steal watered down versions of other powers)

Storm: Mover 5, Blaster 6, Shaker 5 (flight, lightning, storm conjuring)

Jean Gray: Thinker 5, Mover 4, Blaster 10, Shaker 8 (telepathy, extremely powerful telekinesis. Boost all ratings to 10+ when she's in Phoenix mode)
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Fixed that for you.
 
Many misunderstandings of Breaker here - Breaker is a power where you have a separate recognisable, immutable transformed state or gradient of states. The Hulk would be a Breaker not a Changer because he can't change his size (in MCU anyway). Equally Cap and Thor shouldn't have any Breaker ratings (and Thor should probably have a subset Tinker note that if you separate him from Mjolnir he loses a lot of his mojo).
 
I hate to say it and some may disagree but you are doing it wrong the prt ratings are not about how strong the power is but how much damage they can do with that power.
in other words they go from level 1 - normal cops can deal with it to level 10 which is pretty much oh shit to give and example the hulk would be a brute 9 which means using any and every weapon available.

or jean when she has phoenix would be blaster 9 as in get everyone clear of the area of effect.

iron man would get tinker 9 as normal responses like emp would not work on his tech so get someone like reed to advise or hope tony is not in it
 
Wow, this filled up fast overnight. And yes, I think the PRT would be more focused on how much damage they can cause than on where their powers come from.

Although, there is one marvel 'hero' I want to- Chimichangas! Hey readers! What would you rate me? Come on don't be shy!
 
StrangerDanger said:
Wow, this filled up fast overnight. And yes, I think the PRT would be more focused on how much damage they can cause than on where their powers come from.

Although, there is one marvel 'hero' I want to- Chimichangas! Hey readers! What would you rate me? Come on don't be shy!
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Brute 3: You're as squishy as a peak physical human, but it's damn hard to do lasting damage.
Mover 1: I've seen some of the crazy ninja shit you pull. I'd say that's worth a point.
Thinker ???: I don't even know where to start with your head...is Forth Wall destroying useful in combat?
Trump ???: Precogs hate him! Learn how this merc with a mouth makes reading his mind or predicting his actions hard as hell with one simple trick!
 
Wow! Thank you!
By the way, pretty sure breaking the 4th wall is a breaker power.
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