Fire Emblem: Last of the Manakete

[TaliesinSkye]

[X] You'll follow through on Artemis's suggestion. You love magic, and you like to think you're good at it. Besides, you'd been planning on talking to Mistress Flarestone anyways. If you can become friends with her and the other Revisionists, they could probably help you get to the Marble Hall and get accredited, which would give you legitimacy in the world. You might even get to meet Apollo, and you think Artemis would like that. It'll all just take a while.

[X] You decide to wait. You still have a long life ahead of you, you don't need to rush into anything. You may not have an official place in the world, but Artemis likes you, and she'll be around for at least a few decades, enough for you to get settled and find out more about the world. Besides, being able to do things your way is kind of nice.

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[Bladesguy]

[X] You'll follow through on Artemis's suggestion. You love magic, and you like to think you're good at it. Besides, you'd been planning on talking to Mistress Flarestone anyways. If you can become friends with her and the other Revisionists, they could probably help you get to the Marble Hall and get accredited, which would give you legitimacy in the world. You might even get to meet Apollo, and you think Artemis would like that. It'll all just take a while.

[X] You decide to wait. You still have a long life ahead of you, you don't need to rush into anything. You may not have an official place in the world, but Artemis likes you, and she'll be around for at least a few decades, enough for you to get settled and find out more about the world. Besides, being able to do things your way is kind of nice.

 

[Random Sanity]

As tempting as the court mage position is, there's no way in hell a manakete walking into a place that runs on genociding and graverobbing manaketes is going to result in anything but bloodshed.

[X] You will take Archduke Letoro up on his offer, despite Artemis's reservations. A deer in the claw is worth three in the forest, after all, and it will give you a place in the world. It will be a challenge, having to adjust to what human society seems to expect, but you trust Artemis to ensure that you're treated fairly. Hopefully you'll be able to keep the fighting part of your role to a minimum, or at least point it at deserving targets.

 

[Emanyzal]

[X] You'll follow through on Artemis's suggestion. You love magic, and you like to think you're good at it. Besides, you'd been planning on talking to Mistress Flarestone anyways. If you can become friends with her and the other Revisionists, they could probably help you get to the Marble Hall and get accredited, which would give you legitimacy in the world. You might even get to meet Apollo, and you think Artemis would like that. It'll all just take a while.

There's some very good arguments against this path, but I don't see any way the others would help lead to finding an alternative to dragonstones for human magic like Ryza said she would do.

Kinda need to do magic things to get magic results.

 

[TickleTipson]

[X] You will take Archduke Letoro up on his offer, despite Artemis's reservations. A deer in the claw is worth three in the forest, after all, and it will give you a place in the world. It will be a challenge, having to adjust to what human society seems to expect, but you trust Artemis to ensure that you're treated fairly. Hopefully you'll be able to keep the fighting part of your role to a minimum, or at least point it at deserving targets.

 

[Axel Fones]

There's some very good arguments against this path, but I don't see any way the others would help lead to finding an alternative to dragonstones for human magic like Ryza said she would do.

Kinda need to do magic things to get magic results.

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Sypha already told us she'd get Flarestone to help us. So that's one mage to do research with. And if we don't specifically become the court mage, that'll mean a second mage that we can ask to help as well. And if their personality is shit and they refuse... well that's what being friends with Artemis and being in her dad's good graces is for, and getting them to order said mage to do so.

Going to get accredited in a region that despises dragons and would gladly kill Ryza for her dragon stone isn't necessary when we can get at least one willing mage to help us, if not two.

 

[Solarstream]

[X] You will take Archduke Letoro up on his offer, despite Artemis's reservations. A deer in the claw is worth three in the forest, after all, and it will give you a place in the world. It will be a challenge, having to adjust to what human society seems to expect, but you trust Artemis to ensure that you're treated fairly. Hopefully you'll be able to keep the fighting part of your role to a minimum, or at least point it at deserving targets.

 

[DraftierDruid]

There's some very good arguments against this path, but I don't see any way the others would help lead to finding an alternative to dragonstones for human magic like Ryza said she would do.

Kinda need to do magic things to get magic results.

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Well its not like learning their magic is going to help much, though either. Ryza has her own collection of magical knowledge to draw on in the form of experience and the books she has.

That seems like a better starting point to me. Away from a many crazy mages as possible to boot too.

Get some help from local mages, double down on learning manakete magic, go from there.

 

[UARTman]

[X] You'll follow through on Artemis's suggestion. You love magic, and you like to think you're good at it. Besides, you'd been planning on talking to Mistress Flarestone anyways. If you can become friends with her and the other Revisionists, they could probably help you get to the Marble Hall and get accredited, which would give you legitimacy in the world. You might even get to meet Apollo, and you think Artemis would like that. It'll all just take a while.
[x] You decide to wait. You still have a long life ahead of you, you don't need to rush into anything. You may not have an official place in the world, but Artemis likes you, and she'll be around for at least a few decades, enough for you to get settled and find out more about the world. Besides, being able to do things your way is kind of nice.

I'm still vehemently against knighthood. And, like, Artemis also understands the problem with knighthood. The alternative is much more fitting!

Ryza is a mage. This is what she's good at. Getting in contact with local mages and working for Agrithe in this capacity is much better. This will take some time, and there will be a dangerous expedition, but I think becoming a knight would put us in danger as well.

 

[Haruhi is Waifu]

[X] You'll follow through on Artemis's suggestion. You love magic, and you like to think you're good at it. Besides, you'd been planning on talking to Mistress Flarestone anyways. If you can become friends with her and the other Revisionists, they could probably help you get to the Marble Hall and get accredited, which would give you legitimacy in the world. You might even get to meet Apollo, and you think Artemis would like that. It'll all just take a while.

 

[Axel Fones]

Ryza is a mage. This is what she's good at. Getting in contact with local mages and working for Agrithe in this capacity is much better. This will take some time, and there will be a dangerous expedition, but I think becoming a knight would put us in danger as well.

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There's a difference between being socially pressured to enter battle every so often, and entering a region whose people who would gladly kill Ryza and ransack her pockets for her dragon stone if her existence was revealed. One of these has us surrounded by allies, and the other leaves us at risk of constant potential ambush.

In a worst case scenario if we have too few guards it won't matter but if we have too many we'd risk having to cut and run and leave them behind. It's a lot of risk and hassle even if its theoretically worthwhile. Which I personally disagree with, becoming the court mage means we have one less mage to collaborate with.

 

[ImperatorV]

[X] You'll follow through on Artemis's suggestion. You love magic, and you like to think you're good at it. Besides, you'd been planning on talking to Mistress Flarestone anyways. If you can become friends with her and the other Revisionists, they could probably help you get to the Marble Hall and get accredited, which would give you legitimacy in the world. You might even get to meet Apollo, and you think Artemis would like that. It'll all just take a while.

I like the court mage position better, even with the revelations that OOC I already suspected anyway. And it does make a great deal of sense that Ryza would react to the situation by trying to learn more about human magic.

 

[UARTman]

There's a difference between being socially pressured to enter battle every so often, and entering a region whose people who would gladly kill Ryza and ransack her pockets for her dragon stone if her existence was revealed. One of these has us surrounded by allies, and the other leaves us at risk of constant potential ambush.

In a worst case scenario if we have too few guards it won't matter but if we have too many we'd risk having to cut and run and leave them behind. It's a lot of risk and hassle even if its theoretically worthwhile. Which I personally disagree with, becoming the court mage means we have one less mage to collaborate with.

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Firstly, it's a lifetime of battle as a knight versus one dangerous expedition.

But secondly, doing that expedition allows us access to the magic academy. That's a lot of mages. Some of them will definitely prove collaborative. Why do you think Agrithe doesn't have a court mage replacement? Why do you think another will appear out of thin air if we choose to become a knight or wait?

I understand the reluctance to go through Empire territory, but come on! This is a short-term conflict/adventure, and the reward is, again, going to THE MAGICAL ACADEMY.

And once we do that, we can go ahead and work for Agrithe on much more manageable terms.

 

[Emanyzal]

entering a region whose people who would gladly kill Ryza and ransack her pockets for her dragon stone if her existence was revealed.

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I'm pretty sure we'd be doing that sooner or later anyway if we're a knight. We'll be obligated to fight the empire when it inevitably does as empires do, and probably soon after they get tired of making mercenaries do it for them.

Not to say that we won't probably fight them regardless, just that we shouldn't expect knighthood to be an easy job in the near future.

 

[DraftierDruid]

I'm honestly baffled right now. Ryza literally almost attacked Artemis because her emotions overwhelmed her.

And y'all want to send her where people are guaranteed to say some really fucked up shit about the exact thing that set her off in the first place? They use her people as ingredients in their magic there guys.

I would understand if the wait vote won... But like what?

Best case I see is Ryza comes back traumatized, worst case she comes back at the very least outed, with a pile of dead mages at her feet + a giant target on her back.

 

[veekie]

[X] You'll follow through on Artemis's suggestion. You love magic, and you like to think you're good at it. Besides, you'd been planning on talking to Mistress Flarestone anyways. If you can become friends with her and the other Revisionists, they could probably help you get to the Marble Hall and get accredited, which would give you legitimacy in the world. You might even get to meet Apollo, and you think Artemis would like that. It'll all just take a while.

Yes, it'd be an upsetting place, but if she's to replace dragonstone as a source of human magic she's going to need to know a lot about the magic

 

[Yun]

[X] You will take Archduke Letoro up on his offer, despite Artemis's reservations. A deer in the claw is worth three in the forest, after all, and it will give you a place in the world. It will be a challenge, having to adjust to what human society seems to expect, but you trust Artemis to ensure that you're treated fairly. Hopefully you'll be able to keep the fighting part of your role to a minimum, or at least point it at deserving targets.

 

[Hestia&theCourt]

I'm honestly baffled right now. Ryza literally almost attacked Artemis because her emotions overwhelmed her.

And y'all want to send her where people are guaranteed to say some really fucked up shit about the exact thing that set her off in the first place? They use her people as ingredients in their magic there guys.

I would understand if the wait vote won... But like what?

Best case I see is Ryza comes back traumatized, worst case she comes back at the very least outed, with a pile of dead mages at her feet + a giant target on her back.

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She won't be faced with an unexpected desecration, is the difference here. Ryza had no clue this is what humans were doing with her people's corpses before she nearly attacked Artemis, so that led to unexpected fury that she couldn't have predicted and tried to deal with ahead of time, plus she knew that Artemis had to have known and not filled her in, which adds a feeling of betrayal to the whole thing. And, despite all of that, she held her temper mostly in check and didn't actually hurt anyone. It will be worse at the Academy for frequency, but she'll already know what she's getting into so no element of surprise, and she won't be expecting any better from these people because they have no actual reason to expect this to upset Ryza the way Artemis did.

Also, this is the best path to fixing the situation so that maybe she can stop people from doing this. The other paths have no obvious connection to working out how to give humans an alternative means of magic that doesn't rely on corpses to function. I don't want to let this stand, and neither does Ryza, and this is the most expedient path to actually having the ability to do something about this.

 

[DraftierDruid]

Yes, it'd be an upsetting place, but if she's to replace dragonstone as a source of human magic she's going to need to know a lot about the magic

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Which is why I suggested we learn the manakete magic here. How is learning how to use dead dragon voodoo magic going to help us get rid of it?

Like I guess learning the basics would be helpful to get us looking in the right direction, but there are plenty of locals that could help with that.

I believe that looking things from a different angle is best here. The best way to do that is the manakete magic, and we can't exactly do that in the magical school for obvious reasons.

Sorry to single you out in particular though.

@Hestia&theCourt I suppose I should just add you in here now too.

Like I don't really see what we could gain there that we can't gain here. We don't need their certification to reach our goals. There are mages nearby that can fill in the gaps and help us research.

To me we take the knighthood (or if people are that against it wait) and focus the manakete angle.

 

[UARTman]

Like I don't really see what we could gain there that we can't gain here. We don't need their certification to reach our goals. There are mages nearby that can fill in the gaps and help us research.

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Who are these mages nearby? There's, like, one of them around, Flarestone, who is Mantrae-aligned. I really don't get why you think a couple of provincial mages are gonna be the same amount of helpful as access to the main/only magical institution humans have. You know nothing about what the Halls are, what kind of stuff we might get there, yet you seem comfortable dismissing it.

The other benefit you seem to be ignoring is the ability to help Agrithe in official capacity and receive support without being sworn into things we don't want to do. Court mage is a much more flexible position than a knight, and much more fitting to Ryza besides.

 

[Hestia&theCourt]

There are mages nearby that can fill in the gaps and help us research.

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It's not about the research, we can do research anywhere, it's about having the clout to say "hey, y'all should stop using the old form of magic because it's made of people, use this form of magic I set up for y'all instead" and actually be listened to by anyone who isn't already our ally.

 

[Herofox]

Like I don't really see what we could gain there that we can't gain here. We don't need their certification to reach our goals. There are mages nearby that can fill in the gaps and help us research.

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I thought the reason we were offered the position is because the last most competent mage around is dead.

Edit: Currently, all that's around is the dead guys much-less capable apprentices I think?

And Flarestone but she's not 'nearby' so to speak so…

 

[DkArthas]

[X] You'll follow through on Artemis's suggestion. You love magic, and you like to think you're good at it. Besides, you'd been planning on talking to Mistress Flarestone anyways. If you can become friends with her and the other Revisionists, they could probably help you get to the Marble Hall and get accredited, which would give you legitimacy in the world. You might even get to meet Apollo, and you think Artemis would like that. It'll all just take a while.

 

[DraftierDruid]

I thought there were 2 mages nearby that were recommended? One was flarestone + one more... Idk its too late to go over the text to check now.

It's not about the research, we can do research anywhere, it's about having the clout to say "hey, y'all should stop using the old form of magic because it's made of people, use this form of magic I set up for y'all instead" and actually be listened to by anyone who isn't already our ally.

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Fair, I will say that there is more than one way of going about it. And honestly I don't want to put Ryza through all the nonsense at the magical academy.

Like I think that will be extremely hard on her, especially as she will be there without any of her friends to support. Just a bad situation, without adding on the fact we would be having to hide her dragon stone all the time from people who will recognize it on sight. And we have seen how well that has turned out.

The other benefit you seem to be ignoring is the ability to help Agrithe in official capacity and receive support without being sworn into things we don't want to do. Court mage is a much more flexible position than a knight, and much more fitting to Ryza besides.

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I personally don't think it makes up for the points I've made.

That and I don't care for being court mage myself. I don't really see.where we go from there, and we would still be expected to obey the duke. I don't think for a moment he isn't going to put the magic dragon to use. We would still work for him, just without the rights and privileges. Like the title of arch mage only protects us from other nobles not the duke.

 

[Inq. Halbread]

[X] You'll follow through on Artemis's suggestion. You love magic, and you like to think you're good at it. Besides, you'd been planning on talking to Mistress Flarestone anyways. If you can become friends with her and the other Revisionists, they could probably help you get to the Marble Hall and get accredited, which would give you legitimacy in the world. You might even get to meet Apollo, and you think Artemis would like that. It'll all just take a while.

If Ryza wants to be able to find a new magic for humans, then I think becoming an accredited mage is the only way to go. Sadly becoming a knight has the problem of being generationally bound to both humans and politics that Ryza doesn't really like. Especially bad is that Knighthood would require her to fight and she hates doing that plus she gets almost no benefit from the deal than possibly getting her family home as Artemis' fathers new land.

Becoming Head mage lets her do more things more easily with her not having to listen to Artemis' great grandson or something.