Dragonspawn (My Hero Academia SI)
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Doomreaver
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I wish you good fortune and better skill with your exams. Waiting patiently for your return.
Tatsuma was awesome in this chapter, without overshadowing her teammates either. A difficult balance to strike. Especially with how she naturally overshadows people due to being a dragon.
Tatsuma was awesome in this chapter, without overshadowing her teammates either. A difficult balance to strike. Especially with how she naturally overshadows people due to being a dragon.
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- England
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Well that will be embarrassing if he survives.
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- Canada
Same, it's a shame he gets so much credit for his villainy in universe, when the far more likable and sympathetic Gentle has basically disappeared after the arc he showed up in.
Well Stain's probably not going to be as big a sensation, given Tatsuma pointed out the flaws of his philosophy and called it out as stupid before the video came out.
TimEd
Meteor maker
Stain still is a high profile criminal though, and I doubt that was the first time someone called Stain's philosophy stupid. So footage of his capture is gonna be Gold to the news media. And that speech between a Dragon and (shit)Stain? Instant media sensation.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Stein sort of walked out of the canon confrontation looking like a winner, even in defeat, and no one called out his shit, and he even got to be mildly heroic by saving someone.
Here he got called out, tried to murder someone who just saved a ton of people, and shot shot down and shut down like a punk.
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- United States
Ah, I thought that was gonna be a much better moment than it was. She was on the ground after just having been all cool. If instead of 'Shoto saves her after deciding she looks scared' it had been 'she turns human and fights him without her invincibility because she actually believes that 'because I'm a hero' stuff' it would have been so cool. All the tension and build up and then it was kinda flat. Not bad, it just wasn't as good as what the scene made it seem like was going to happen. Especially since she had such a cool moment and then that was kind of taken away from her by Shoto saying she didn't look determined or anything, just mortally terrified.
EDIT: My wife says this isn't very clear on the how. I meant like, because her Dragon body and Human body have different pools of blood, as evidenced by bleeding out in one not bleeding out in the other. So I was thinking she'd probably still be moving in her human body. Also, she didn't have to win, just outlast the dragon paralysis, which as shown wasn't too long. And if she got stabbed in the heart she'd be fine switching to dragon form again.
EDIT: My wife says this isn't very clear on the how. I meant like, because her Dragon body and Human body have different pools of blood, as evidenced by bleeding out in one not bleeding out in the other. So I was thinking she'd probably still be moving in her human body. Also, she didn't have to win, just outlast the dragon paralysis, which as shown wasn't too long. And if she got stabbed in the heart she'd be fine switching to dragon form again.
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Mizu
Software Developer
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- Victoria, Australia
Gentle was imprisoned by the police and was going to try and reform at the end of his arc, though? Makes sense we aren't seeing much of him.
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- Leeds
They'll leave that one out of her biography.
Blackout
Fed By Comments
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- Who knows?
Regarding the media, how would they get the footage of Stain's capture?
Canonically he got recorded by a bystander on a public street, but this was in a mall that was hit by an EMP and then evacuated.
Whilst perhaps not my finest work, the intent of that was to point out just how terrifying the situation is to an "average Pro-Hero".
I'm sorry if you feel disappointed, but ultimately this is how I decided it would go.
Canonically he got recorded by a bystander on a public street, but this was in a mall that was hit by an EMP and then evacuated.
He did.
Whilst perhaps not my finest work, the intent of that was to point out just how terrifying the situation is to an "average Pro-Hero".
Well, for one, determination and fear aren't mutually exclusive. Also, even if that did work, you'd be asking a 15yo girl, even if fit and strong, who hasn't used her human body for two and a half years, to hold off Stain the Hero Killer, you know the guy who demolishes 5% One For All Midoriya in a matter of seconds?
I'm sorry if you feel disappointed, but ultimately this is how I decided it would go.
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- United States
I wasn't really concerned with the how, it's a shonenverse where a broken arm you've already used, doing the exact same thing seconds later, works better than it did earlier even though both times you're putting your all into it, so I usually assume things just work. I didn't put any thought into the mechanics of it, I'm not the writer obviously, I just read a scene that made me think a scene was coming.
Not even really complaining since I liked the scene, and it wasn't bad, which I think I said. It just fooled me into thinking it was gonna be cooler, by turning the build up to 11.
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Y'know, something just came to mind. Endeavor, the #2 hero in Japan, goes to investigate the Broken Circle, a known terrorist group. He's baited to a specific location via pre-planted documents, documents that on investigation prove to be false. He is then attacked by a group of Nomu, the League of Villains signature weapon, that are clearly tailor-made to counter the abilities of himself and his comrades. It isn't too hard to come to the conclusion that Broken Circle and the League are working hand in glove together, and that this was a setup from the word go. Broken Circle is likely about to have a bad time.
Edit: not documents, but a confession of a captured hostage taker. Which . . . Might actually be worse, as it implies the bank job was conducted specifically to draw him out.
Edit: not documents, but a confession of a captured hostage taker. Which . . . Might actually be worse, as it implies the bank job was conducted specifically to draw him out.
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I spy with my little eye, hints of the UA spy.
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- Tbilisi, Georgia
This has been bugging me for a while: isn't this a reincarnation story? I always found it pathetic that a grown (wo)man keeps acting like a child.
You haven't really used the reincarnation thing at all, too. I suspect it was a bad decision you're just ignoring now. The story would've been much better off without it.
Sorry if I sound too negative. It's just really been bothering me.
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I mean I don't know how old he was when he died the first time, but I'm guessing 18, which is not really a grown adult for me. Also as someone on SB pointed both the mine clearing in the sports festival and her reaction to Stain sort of shows that she is an SI.
The mind is a plaything of the body. It has been scientifically proven that the brains of teenagers are not fully developed and affects the way they think and act. Plus it's easy to say "don't act like a child" but being an adult doesn't magically make it easier to get through tense social situations, especially if you're socially awkward by nature and doubly and triply so if you have a bunch of other stressful things tripping you up too like needing to learn a new language, being turned into the opposite gender and then going through puberty with a ton of unfamiliar hormones, effectively becoming disabled, etc.
And I can't really agree with that at all. This chapter made excellent use of the reincarnation even if it wasn't explicit. Most, if not all 16 year old teenage hero students being thrown into a life and death situation would not have been able to calmly and logically dissect and disassemble Stain's entire ideology on the spot like Tatsuma did here. It's likely specifically because she has been an adult that she's able to recognize and call out not just the moral/emotional flaws of his argument but the practical ones as well.
DBDrake
Totaly A Dragon
Re. Stain power becoming human WhOOSH: I super agree that would be kinda fun right now, but meaningless long term.
Some of the most interesting parts of the story have been our MC struggling with being BIG and DRAGON; it's the coolest character struggle deally thing IMO. She is the most aggressively mutated by her quirk person we have met, because she cannot even interact with the apparatus of modern society; including socialization to a point.
It might be fun to have her detransform infront of stain, but then unless the story ends RIGHT THERE with her decapitated, the rest of the story she has this incredible power with literally no downsides.
And it wouldn't even be that interesting in the moment! She would have been stuck laying on the floor as a human waiting for stain to kill her instead of as a dragon. Shoto still would have had to save her, she still would have had to beat him as a dragon.
It just would have hurt future plot development.
That said, if stains quirk doesn't make her change back, I'll be pretty suspicious of anything that lets her do it in the future. It pretty firmly rules out anything psychosomatic.
Some of the most interesting parts of the story have been our MC struggling with being BIG and DRAGON; it's the coolest character struggle deally thing IMO. She is the most aggressively mutated by her quirk person we have met, because she cannot even interact with the apparatus of modern society; including socialization to a point.
It might be fun to have her detransform infront of stain, but then unless the story ends RIGHT THERE with her decapitated, the rest of the story she has this incredible power with literally no downsides.
And it wouldn't even be that interesting in the moment! She would have been stuck laying on the floor as a human waiting for stain to kill her instead of as a dragon. Shoto still would have had to save her, she still would have had to beat him as a dragon.
It just would have hurt future plot development.
That said, if stains quirk doesn't make her change back, I'll be pretty suspicious of anything that lets her do it in the future. It pretty firmly rules out anything psychosomatic.
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- England
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- He/Him
What? Isn't Stains quirk blood paralysis, why would that rule out all (or even any) psychosomatic symptoms.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I don't see why. If the issue is her feeling threatened and vulnerable all the time, feeling more threatened and more vulnerable even while an otherwise invincible dragon isn't exactly going to help with that.
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- United Kingdom
It might, but it'd likely be a more long term thing. It's pointed out in the chapter that this is the first time she's felt real pain in years (i.e. since before she got stuck), and in spite of her defenses she was still genuinely afraid for her life before Shouto intervened, which indirectly flies in the face of her nightmares of being powerless always having her be human. Now she's been shown that being a dragon is not some perfect defense.
Fair's fair she is objectively tougher as a dragon than as a human, but this is still an important step to breaking down said psychosomatic barrier (assuming that's what it is).
The action was great. It was neat seeing them all working together, and it's always fun seeing Tatsuma going all out.
Shouto seems to have come to a different epiphany here than in canon ('Can you really afford to hold back' compared to 'It's your quirk not his'), though he might still end up friends with Midoriya after this?
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I mean, 'this might be the first step on a path to breaking down some psychological barrier' is a reasonable interpretation, but 'Stain's quirk didn't immediately cause her to turn back into a human, therefore it's not psychological' is sort of what I was actually talking about, and that feels like the opposite of the point I think you're trying to make? (You're saying it's psychological, they're saying it's not)?
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- United Kingdom
You said you didn't see how feeling more threatened as a dragon would help if the problem was feeling threatened all the time in the first place. My point was that I think she's stuck as a dragon to try and feel safer compared to how she was as a human, and that now she has to face the fact that she's not invincible it might help her face the idea of being a squishy human again.
TheLastOne
Person of impeccable tastes (for destruction)
Pretty sure it's not psychological. They got in people with meta-quirk quirks to try and force activation, deactivation, and so on, and none of that helped or worked at all.