- Location
- USA
I guess I'll do the proper format
[X] Story time.
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
[X] Story time.
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
[X] Story time.
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
Right, the formatting. The special formatting for the vote. The vote formatting.
Why do we even HAVE that lever?
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
Right, the formatting. The special formatting for the vote. The vote formatting.
Why do we even HAVE that lever?
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
[X] Story time.
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
- Location
- USA
Sorry I'm running on like 3 hours sleep -- what do you mean "lever"? Is that an auto correct of measure?
But yeah, staff posts are a great measure of thread meltdowns which tend to turn up more often in quests where the GM gives you too much of an ability to screw yourself.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
It's a quote.
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
Both my rambling after fixing my vote formatting and my 'why do we even have that lever' comment are references to The Emporer's New Groove, and a particular character in it who stole the show with well-timed humor, dry wit, and by being a good person on the bad side. He was dense but lovable.
- Location
- USA
Both my rambling after fixing my vote formatting and my 'why do we even have that lever' comment are references to The Emporer's New Groove, and a particular character in it who stole the show with well-timed humor, dry wit, and by being a good person on the bad side. He was dense but lovable.
Ah that part of my childhood. Can't remember anything from it other than loving it. Details were replaced by other movies -- mostly Lion King 1 ½.
Yes that's actually a movie. It's one of the hit or (more often) miss Disney sequels -- although it's not really a sequel.
CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
- Location
- United States. Ish.
[X] Story time.
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Fortunately, I think Kakara recently got the hang of a certain base level of OpSec, or was that a different quest?Y'all are shit at proper vote formatting. If I was a crueler GM...
[X] Story time.
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
That was Marked for Death. Debatably.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
How is marked for death doing? I left about the time they went to the leaf village and told myself I wasn't coming back until some of the pie in the sky dreams had come true.That was Marked for Death. Debatably.
KnightDisciple
Brotherhood. Unity. Peace.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
[X] Story time.
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
And in exile society that is the Lords and for the Lords it's the Enemy.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
[X] Story time.
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
Just changing the names does not good infosec make.
Story of Raditz: Obsfuscated
I will tell you one of the stories of Marsden, the progenitor and patron of my line.
Know that Marsden first came to the shores of these lands as an infant, delivered there by the hands of a dying woman clad in strange armor amidst the wreckage of a great ship of the Other East.
Before I go on, the Other East is one of those weird things you just have to accept about Marsden stories. Its this fantastical place where he and his companions go to have grand adventures and meet princesses and gods. Back to the story:
There upon that shore, clutched in a dead woman's arms, he was found by the Kindly Hermit, one of those brave souls that would isolate themselves in order study the then young art of Ki, so that any dangers of the unknown they should provoke would fall only upon themselves. The Kindly Hermit took young Marsden from that shore and raised the child as his own, putting his research on hold to teach him what was known of the art.
The stories of Marsden's youth are numerous and extensive, with all sorts of crazy adventures, but the key takeaways are these:
First, he showed great power and skill in the art even from childhood.
Second, he perfected the technique that the Kindly Hermit's line of master and apprentice had studied for six generations: the ki blast!
Third, he made many friends who were themselves Mighty warriors.
Finally, he met and married a fellow ki master and fathered a child.
As our story opens the lands are at peace; it has been many years since Marsden has had to fight any great battles and his son has grown into a bright young boy.
Into this time of peace sailed a ship from the Other East, a great vessel like unto the one whose wreckage brought Marsden to the land.
From this ship disembarked a mighty warrior, dressed in strange armor. Alone he debarked, confident in his power, commanding the crew to remain and wait for his return.
For a short time the strange warrior wandered, wrecking havoc upon those that crossed his path. He dismissed the people of the land, for they had no ki to speak of, and thus could not possibly be what he sought.
The first ki user he stumbled upon was the Brutal Hermit, a vicious warrior that Marsden had fought several times throughout his journeys.
The battle was swift and brutal; in short order the strange warrior had subdued the Brutal Hermit. He demanded that the Hermit tell him where the greatest warrior in the land lived.
The Hermit had no love for Marsden, and so he directed the strange warrior to Marsden's home.
etc
I might do more later, but I'm not really confident in writing a big fight scene.
A few other details I would change:
Merge/warp a few of the other Z fighters, maybe combine Tien and Krillin, Yamcha and Yajurobi.
Raditz standin is a scion of an even more ancient line of ki users, here to recover his brother. Only goes genocidal when Goku refuses to return, believing that locals kidnapped/corrupted him.
Have the Piccolo standing launch a sneak attack while Goku and Raditz are fighting that kills the Raditz standin/wounds Goku instead of teaming up.
Excise any and all possible mention of people coming back from the dead/dragon balls/wishes.
Do not give anything like hard numbers for power, or even stress that power levels have changed dramatically.
Story of Raditz: Obsfuscated
I will tell you one of the stories of Marsden, the progenitor and patron of my line.
Know that Marsden first came to the shores of these lands as an infant, delivered there by the hands of a dying woman clad in strange armor amidst the wreckage of a great ship of the Other East.
Before I go on, the Other East is one of those weird things you just have to accept about Marsden stories. Its this fantastical place where he and his companions go to have grand adventures and meet princesses and gods. Back to the story:
There upon that shore, clutched in a dead woman's arms, he was found by the Kindly Hermit, one of those brave souls that would isolate themselves in order study the then young art of Ki, so that any dangers of the unknown they should provoke would fall only upon themselves. The Kindly Hermit took young Marsden from that shore and raised the child as his own, putting his research on hold to teach him what was known of the art.
The stories of Marsden's youth are numerous and extensive, with all sorts of crazy adventures, but the key takeaways are these:
First, he showed great power and skill in the art even from childhood.
Second, he perfected the technique that the Kindly Hermit's line of master and apprentice had studied for six generations: the ki blast!
Third, he made many friends who were themselves Mighty warriors.
Finally, he met and married a fellow ki master and fathered a child.
As our story opens the lands are at peace; it has been many years since Marsden has had to fight any great battles and his son has grown into a bright young boy.
Into this time of peace sailed a ship from the Other East, a great vessel like unto the one whose wreckage brought Marsden to the land.
From this ship disembarked a mighty warrior, dressed in strange armor. Alone he debarked, confident in his power, commanding the crew to remain and wait for his return.
For a short time the strange warrior wandered, wrecking havoc upon those that crossed his path. He dismissed the people of the land, for they had no ki to speak of, and thus could not possibly be what he sought.
The first ki user he stumbled upon was the Brutal Hermit, a vicious warrior that Marsden had fought several times throughout his journeys.
The battle was swift and brutal; in short order the strange warrior had subdued the Brutal Hermit. He demanded that the Hermit tell him where the greatest warrior in the land lived.
The Hermit had no love for Marsden, and so he directed the strange warrior to Marsden's home.
etc
I might do more later, but I'm not really confident in writing a big fight scene.
A few other details I would change:
Merge/warp a few of the other Z fighters, maybe combine Tien and Krillin, Yamcha and Yajurobi.
Raditz standin is a scion of an even more ancient line of ki users, here to recover his brother. Only goes genocidal when Goku refuses to return, believing that locals kidnapped/corrupted him.
Have the Piccolo standing launch a sneak attack while Goku and Raditz are fighting that kills the Raditz standin/wounds Goku instead of teaming up.
Excise any and all possible mention of people coming back from the dead/dragon balls/wishes.
Do not give anything like hard numbers for power, or even stress that power levels have changed dramatically.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
It is not like many (or even any) aliens are going to know the true story. I don't think even the Enemy will have delved deep into Saiyan history.
So you're saying that people wouldn't have looked into the history of a group of people who wielded galaxy renowned power, treated with the gods and in some cases rose to godhood?
I think you are wrong.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
[retcons vote formatting]
Okay everyone, aside from this being a vote for "Storytime!" with Raditz as a subvote...
I'm actually away from the computer I'd use to write my own draft version right now but I'm optimistic about turning it into a fully fleshed omake by tonight. I'd like to do so since I've already gotten some of the tougher parts done.
Hm. I'd be happier not doing too much of (1), if only because it will complicate any future attempts to tell the Misfits stories if we have to keep track of things like that.
(2) is strictly true of the original. Raditz showed up and was angry that Goku had spent the past twenty years screwing around instead of getting on with it and killing all life on Earth, but wasn't actually planning to kill all the Earthlings himself, just collect Goku and take him off to kill people on another, entirely different planet. This is probably why he didn't fly around making a Nappa of himself and wrecking cities.
(3) is viable, but again runs us into trouble if we ever try to tell another storytime. As Quintilian put it, "a liar should have a good memory."
(4) I very much agree with and was already implementing.
(5) is a fair point, and I think I'll try to bear that in mind in my own version of the story. Which is already like half written, so I don't want to drop it.
I think that if they're in the habit of investigating every random myth and rumor that vaguely resembles an episode of the life history of Goku, they're going to be so busy following up on false leads that they never find time to do anything else. Goku's story contains a vast number of incidents that are generically similar in various ways to a vast number of imaginable stories, because Goku undergoes a lot of the same "Heroic Monomyth" adventures as so many other fictional protagonists.
He's mainly going to be known to aliens because of things he did that impacted the galaxy as a whole.
Now, to be fair, this is a great reason NOT to tell the story of Frieza (who was infamous on a galactic level before his death), but it's less relevant to the storylines that played out entirely on Earth.
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
[X] Story time.
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
-[X] Tell them about Raditz
Currently in the chuunin exams for Leaf. So at least some of the pie in the sky dreams have come true.
A few thoughts:
1. We don't have a monopoly on seers/sorcerers
2. Once Goku et al went galactic, I assume that at least some of the powers of the time would take the time to investigate their history
3. That info might still exist in a relatively accurate form somewhere in the galactic record (the aliens who are coming might not have access to it)
4. There are some people on the lookout for things that could point the Sayains still existing.
Do I think it likely that a story we tell our friends is likely to get into the hands of the galactic intelligence community? Not particularly. This is about best practices.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Do you mean they have their own village or they joined the leaf?
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
The latter.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Again, my main point is that if we put a modest amount of effort into shuffling things around a bit, this story will resemble the real story of Goku little or no more than any of a zillion other stories that have nothing to do with him would. Especially since unlike some of the other stories we could have chosen, it doesn't actually bring in all the Z fighters, limiting the details.
Also, while we almost certainly don't have a monopoly on Sight, it does seem to be rather rare...
Anyway.
I guess my main point is that I'd like to be able to tell internally consistent stories. Furthermore, if the Enemy (or for that matter the alien army) is in a position to sift through the details of stories we told our friends, we may well already be screwed on general principles, because they've gotten too close.